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This is a very hard decision but I had put all my trust in my breeder. If this is happening to me, IMO, I would call her bluff. If she gives me back the money and I have to give back the pup I would be sad and heartbroken but I would let it be done. I have been taken advantage before because of a kitten and I will not let that happen again. All I got was a large bill and a dead kitten. Sorry to be so forward but I do not want what happen to me happen to anyone else. God luck in your decision. (( big hugs )) |
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BTW, Amy did you pay with a credit card? I am assuming the transaction was done online bc it was out of state, so must have been a card? Was it a credit card or debit card? If it was a credit card, you may want to contact your credit card company. Many offer guarantees that the place you bought from doesn't cover. It's worth a shot. |
It's good to have all of the medical, legal, and logical information so that Amy can make an informed decision. Unfortunately, this is a heartbreaking one no matter what she decides. She loves little Zoey, wants to protect her from harm, and be there to watch her grow up. She is being cheated here. Amy, I hope you are able to reach a favorable resolutions toon with the breeder. |
Thanks everyone I lm at loss. I payed cash in full...I mailed it via express mail |
Oh crap. Like cash cash? Or a check or money order? Dd you at least get a bill of sale or any papers saying she is the breeder and sold you this pup? |
Cash cash lol...I believed I got a yellow carbon copy |
Ugh. Does the carbon at. Least have her name on it? Do you have emails from her? I don't think this is going to be easy at all, I feel for you and your pup! |
i have plenty of emails from her...i have Zoeys american hybrid registry that says shes the breeder i also have zoeys lineage |
i have to check all the things she sent tom |
So sorry about your pup. Did you get a health contract? Open fontenels are a congenital & hereditary disease. Your breeder also needs to pull the parents from her breeding program & spay & neuter them both unless she can find out which is carrying the faulty gene. My friend has a 5 yr old Chi w/an OF that never closed fully. She has a soft spot a size of a dime. Other than that, she's very healthy & lives a normal life. |
This breeder is a true byb. Amy, I'm going to go against the grain. Don't give her back, if you do she will surly put her down. I personally don't think you would anyway. You can fight for your rights and hound her to death for your money, you may or may not get it back; however, this pup has one chance and your it. This is not a pup you have had for a day, you have had her for some time. You will, like many of us who have been through the same things, get through this, that pup needs you. |
Also I would never tell anyone I told you so, this is not what I want for anyone or any pup. My hope is that like me and many others here you now have learned and understand how important it is NOT to deal with byb's. I care about Zoey and you and I know you will do what is right by her. There are byb's everywhere, you've been afforded a ton of info on how to avoid them now. Next time, and I know there will be one :), go armed with the knowledge you have gotten here, just remember they are everywhere, they are even here, so don't trust anyone unless they meet the criteria that so many here have selflessly shared and offered to you. |
I am so sorry that you are going through this/ I can't imagine// thanks to all the knowledgeable people here on this site I know what to look for when I get my next yorkie |
Keeping you in my thoughts. |
she said she gets the soft spot all the time esp in her little ones...i think shes a far cry from spaying any male or female that would cause that in her line bec she thinks its normal since she said her previous customers have the spot and the dogs are doing fine (she use long hair apple head chiwawas so she says its common) its just that she lied about how big the soft spot is now that i fell its like i good portion of zoey head (on top) i hope it closes by some miracle or at least gets to the 1/16 of an inch...there was a customer of lora that got something like hydrocephalus (not hydrocephalus but something like it) but the customer said it was a reaction to the bordetella because the had given her too much! Quote:
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Are we talking about an applehead Chihuahua? Open fonts ARE common and are considered "normal" in applehead Chihuahuas....I used to breed them years ago, for a very short time, and they all had open fonts. They were not huge soft spots....maybe around the size of a dime....but when I was being mentored, all the breeders passed on the knowledge that open fonts were considered common in Chis and as long as they were not huge, there would be no problem! Every Chi that we had when I was growing up, had a soft spot, and we never had any pups suffer from hydrocephalus. There again, we are talking about the size of a dime, not a quarter, which sounds like the inch long soft spot you are talking about! So while it is NOT considered "normal" or "common" or "acceptable" in Yorkies, it is in Chihuahuas....at least that is the information in breeding circles back in the early 70's. |
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What is concerning is that this one seems to be growing at a rate disproportionate to the rest of the pup's growth (from half a pea-sized to an inch per the OP). That's suggestive of increased fluid buildup. |
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does anyone know what a good insurance out there for dogs? and what the latest age you can get it? |
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Out of curiosity, how big s your dog? I'm trying to give myself a visual... Do to have a close up picture of her face? |
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Trupanion!!!! Check out Trupanion on their site and there is a chart that compares all the insurance companies and what the pay!!! |
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:thumbup::thumbup: I have never had them grow in size...most closed down, though not completely closed....started out the size of a dime and would close down to about 1/2 that size. Never had to take any special precautions with the soft spot!! Was not like it was a big issue.....I guess because it is considered normal in Chis! But I dont think it should be getting larger in size....that would indicate a build up of fluid in the brain..... |
I noticed a couple people said give that Zoey back but Amy please don't do that she will just put her to sleep or even use her as a breeder. |
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I've been feeling so bad for you Amy-I know I'd be so upset if I were you. However, let me play devil's advocate here, & keep in mind that I'm very inexperienced with medical problems: 1) The soft spot thing: I wonder how much Chi is in her because it sounds like this might be something that's not really uncommon or problematic. If you're lucky this could be nothing. (If you take a dime & put it on the spot is it bigger than that?) 2) LP thing: Both my dogs had a little clicking when young & they've not once had any kind of problem with their knees. They're 9 & almost 6 now. 3) The vulva thing: Maybe you just need to keep it clean. Many of us Yorkie mamas wipe that thing off once or twice a day. I just thought maybe looking at the best case scenario could help you. (LOL, I am not a friend of the breeder!!:eek:) Take care, |
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