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Old 08-07-2013, 07:17 AM   #16
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Ok, let me clarify a few things:
This pup was the "runt" the smallest at birth, however, by the time he went home to his new family he was one of the mid-sized pups and now weighs 7 1/2 pounds.
The family that took him had previously had a smaller dog- a 10 pound poodle (or something like that) so the kids were used to being around small dogs. This other dog, however, was old and wasn't playful. After it died they got the puppy and the kids were not taught (apparently) how to be around a small puppy. They love(d) him like crazy but didn't learn to leave him alone when he wanted space- thus the nipping issue.
I FULLY agree that I would rather see a pet go to a good home where it will be loved forever instead of staying with a family that resents it and treats it poorly. I just hate how some people think that they don't have to do any work to get a great dog. If it isn't perfect and they actually have to take time to train it than it is too much for them and the dog gets kicked to the curb. Not the dog's fault that it doesn't do what you want it to if you don't train it to know what you want! Oh, and now that family wants to get a kitten! Seriously, that is what makes me so angry- pets are not disposable. If you can't handle the commitment of a long term pet than DON'T GET ONE!
There are 6 other families (all middle age plus) with no kids that are ready to take this pup in and love it forever. Now I'm just worried that this family will change their mind and keep him and then end up being mean to the pup.
I'm glad the puppy is going to a home more suitable for him. I hope he isn't traumatized by the whole event. And I really do agree with you. If you have kids & you're getting a puppy (or any other pet) you need to prepare your kids. The kids need to be trained just like the puppy. Sometimes you even need to train the adults in the household. I think that some people just don't understand the commitment of having a pet. A pet isn't something you get as an accessory to your home, like a new couch. It's a living being that deserves a good quality of life. I really hope they don't get that kitten.
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Old 08-07-2013, 09:18 AM   #17
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I am glad this little guy is going to a better home, however to the issue of selling to people with children I guess I have a different view than some. I raised 3 kids and have 7 grandkids. We had dogs the entire time we were raising our kids. Yes toy breed ones. We had tiny little 4 and 5 lb poms. Our children were taught from the get go how to treat the pups and the pups were taught how to treat the kids. I hate to think I would of had to wait until I was old to have a fur buddy. Our poms came from a show breeder who was very picky with placement but she also met and watched our kids with the puppies several times before allowing us to take them home with us. I am praying for this little pup that he will find a wonderful home to be loved in..
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@ HRossen. I have a 5 year old who has grown up with small animals(he has a gerbil now and we've had our bulldog since she was 8 weeks and 10 lbs ). It's all about how you raise your child to respect animals and you always have to supervise. I don't think age really has anything to do with it...I know some really clumsy adults/teenagers hehehe. When my son gets too rough playtime for him and the pup/gerbil is over. I would personally hate for a breeder to "overlook" my family because I have a child, but then again that could be a good thing because I wouldn't want a breeder like that. Nonetheless I hope the pup in question finds a good home or that his current family gets there ish together and actually puts some effort into training him and making him a part of the family.
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The good part of this story...the pup will be going to a much better home!!!
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:53 PM   #20
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A good breeder doesn't sell to people with little kids period no matter if they had a small dog or not before because accidents happen and when kids are involved the chances rise. I was 8 when we got our first puppy and we had, had a rescue before that and I was taught how to be with dogs but I still dropped our puppy a few times thank goodness I am short and my parents never let me hold him any where but on carpeted floors it could have been a lot worse.
I mostly agree with you, but it really depends on not only the kids, but the parents as well. Obviously I think we both agree that this particular breeder didn't interview this family enough, but there are some families out there with young-ish kids that could be good with yorkies. Maybe a bigger yorkie at that. But there are even some tweens and teens that I wouldn't trust with any type of dog. Take my next door neighbors for example.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:03 PM   #22
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I mostly agree with you, but it really depends on not only the kids, but the parents as well. Obviously I think we both agree that this particular breeder didn't interview this family enough, but there are some families out there with young-ish kids that could be good with yorkies. Maybe a bigger yorkie at that. But there are even some tweens and teens that I wouldn't trust with any type of dog. Take my next door neighbors for example.
Yeah there is always occasional exceptions to the rule.
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I'm sorry this is happening to this baby and I sure hope he finds the right forever home. He will be better off with a family that doesn't see him as something that can be "gotten rid of."

I know everyone has their own beliefs, but I would just like to say that not all children are unruly. I know it's hard to believe, but there are actually well behaved and mannered kids out there. Those parents would be great for a pup because they are raising kids the right way...meaning, they will raise the pup the right way. I am very very happy there are breeders that don't "across the board" say "NO" to families with children. Yes, not all children should have a small breed pup in their home, but not all children are equal and I am glad some breeders do realize that.
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Speaking from a rescue perspective: I never make a blanket statement about who I will adopt to...BUT I will say this: Yes, there well behaved children with small pups, but the numbers of pups who come to us after being ruined by children is pretty eye opening. They either carry them all over until they drop them and break a leg (or worse), or they get in their faces constantly wanting hugs until the pup bites them or they run and play with tiny pup underfoot and tiny pup gets hurt. The families THEN turn to rescue OR drop them off at a shelter. I keep saying I should keep stats on the owner surrenders we get. Like I said, no blanket statements but I am wary about families with young children and I make no excuses for it. My job is the proper placement of a pup so it is not traumatized again. The pups I am referring to came from breeders who cared ONLY about money in hand. They had NO idea nor did they care how the pup would be treated. Very common occurence.

And, the fact is, yorkies are terriers and not known to be good with children. That is a fact that everyone wants to go away, but it isn't. Not saying it never works...my grandson has a yorkie. I am merely commenting on what I know about children and yorkies.
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@ ladyjane that's why I agree that breeder's should interview the WHOLE family when Iooking at peperspective buyers. See how the children interact with the pups. Will play be supervised by an adult? My breeder even wanted to meet our bulldog...I thought it was strange at first, but now I get why.
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@ ladyjane that's why I agree that breeder's should interview the WHOLE family when Iooking at peperspective buyers. See how the children interact with the pups. Will play be supervised by an adult? My breeder even wanted to meet our bulldog...I thought it was strange at first, but now I get why.
Yep! It is SO important that you look at the whole picture!
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Developmental coordination has absolutely NOTHING to do with how a child is raised. Young toddlers do not have the physical developmental coordination necessary to safely maneuver around a puppy. I could not forgive myself if I went against my better judgement and wanted the $$$$ rather than what I personally felt was best for the puppy. I will sacrifice a sell rather than try to justify in my mind, one of my babies getting injured/killed because of getting ACCIDENTALLY stepped on, dropped, sat on, dropped in a fish tank to teach it how to swim, like a co-workers child did, etc......I couldnt live with that! There are tons of people that WILL sell to families with small children, so I have no problems with feeling like I may have denied some family the opportunity to own a Yorkie! Breeders have to make choices that THEY feel works best for their breeding program.....some of the policies are not popular, but you stand by your convicrions, if based on good cause! Developmental coordination is my guideline for my decisaion!

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As one breeder told me "Not all breeders are created equal". Some breeders would not sell to me because I have a medium/large sized dog already(who was not going anywhere) and they didn't feel having such a small animal in the same household was safe. I've heard having a small child as a reason not to sell also if you work a regular 40 hr a week job not to sell. I've even heard from the breeder of my bulldog that she just had a "feeling" and would not sell to people. Every breeder does what they think is best for their pups and has criteria just as I as a buyer have criteria that I want a breeder to meet if I purchase a puppy from them.. My particular breeder was iffy about selling to me because of my son, but gave me a chance interview when she gave the person I was recommended by a call about me to see how my family was. She later met with the whole family after several phone and email conversations. Not all children are clumsy or play tricks on the family pet. This is why we got the bulldog(my husbands dog) first. She is more "sturdy" and we wanted to see how our son would be with her before we looked into getting a smaller breed(my dog). Dare I say some children treat their pets better than some adults? I've run into adult pet owners I find questionable that I'm sure some breeder thought was "perfect" or met their selective criteria on paper
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Yep, there are plenty of people who should not own anything but a stuffed animal but they are fairly easy to sniff out. If a person takes the time to do a vet check, most of what you need to know is revealed.

With children it is not that simple.

Again, I use the knowledge I have gained after years of rescuing and placing pups. The bottom line, in my opinion, is that children are contraindicated. Not saying that none will work out...and I DO look at the whole picture; but rare is the young family that can successfully own a yorkie.

As I said previously, my grandson has one; BUT the pup came first so they had to make it work out. Well, let's just say they chose to work it out. Sadly, I see a lot of surrenders from people who don't choose to work things out.
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I'm glad he's okay and I'm sure he'll find a very loving home he deserves.

As for those people... It's sad b/c there are so many of them. But I'm glad there are people that helps these poor pets that's about to get tossed out like an object. We bring them into our home with the intention of adding them to OUR FAMILY. Isn't it like having a "problem child"? If the child is having behavior issues, you'd seek help to remedy it and work hard to fix the problem. You wouldn't just "get rid of" your kid because s/he's not getting along with the other kids without even trying...

I so agree!!! I really don't understand the disposable attitude of some people. I feel once you have a dog you must do what is best for that dog for the rest of his/her life! I do think there are times (very few) when rehomeing is the best choice but that should be last resort.
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