Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4282500)

Hmmm, I buried my 1 year old 6 months ago, started as a mild heart murmur, ended tragically...

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 4282590)

Which is why I said usually. A murmur in and of it's self is not a problem. It's the underlying cause of the murmur that can be. That cause can run the gamut from completely benign to life limiting. Until more is known about this particular pup, it doesn't make sense to jump to the most tragic conclusion.

I am very sorry your story didn't have a happy ending and I appreciate you letting others know that they need to further investigate things.

Originally Posted by lynzy420 (Post 4282594)

When I posted about the heart murmur I got lots of feedback and several people told me to RUN to a cardiologist...and I think that whenever it involves a heart, it should be taken seriously and investigated fully....that's all I'm trying to say...downplaying it can be very dangerous....

Originally Posted by JuneBugs Momma (Post 4282593)

With a vast majority of this breed coming from supposedly reputable breeders, it seems that most have had their share of medical problems, which include astronomical costs to the owners.

I am using Charlies Momma's post as an example. She states she paid only $250 for him but paid dearly so far in medical costs. Does this mean that many of the Yorkie/Biewer owners here do not have pet insurance? I would think that with knowing that this breed does come with possible future health risks, pet insurance would be a good idea. Or do most of you have pet insurance and end up still paying alot of out-of-pocket expenses?

I have a Biewer I adopted from a rescue and is between 3-4 yrs old. Clean bill of health but considering pet insurance. Thats why I have the questions here within.

Originally Posted by Teresiana (Post 4282598)

I would highly recommend insurance for a rescue. He may have clean bill of health now, but you never know what will happen in the future. A life threatening congenital defect can remain hidden for some time. Personally, I think it's a good idea to have insurance on a pup from a reputable breeder as well. They could break a leg & need surgery. Insurance companies refund your payments. The amount you get reimbursed depends on your carrier & your plan. So you still need the money up front.

Originally Posted by JuneBugs Momma (Post 4282593)

Originally Posted by Teresiana (Post 4282206)

I absolutely completely agree with buying your breeder first. I have one from a shelter, two rescues & one from a breeder. I love my shelter pup/rescues more than I ever knew was possible. But there's a huge difference between them & my champion-sired girl. In fact, her price wasn't even a concern of mine. Once I found my breeder, I knew that I wanted a puppy from her no matter what the cost. I probably paid a little higher than average. However, I'm in the Northeast & everything is more expensive here. Some other reasons she was probably on the higher end of the price scale could have been the fact that she stayed with her breeder for a full 16 weeks, she is spayed, she's had her 1st year of shots, she's microchipped, she has a one year congenital health guarantee & she was raised with an incredible amount of love. Plus, my breeder has to put up with emails from me bragging about how smart, wonderful & perfect my baby is for the next 15 years ;) My next puppy will come from this same breeder. I wouldn't even consider looking for another. Honestly, I think that once you build a good relationship with a reputable breeder you share a breeding philosophy with, you'll find that you won't be so concerned with "price".

I wish you the best of luck with your search!! What an exciting time for you!

Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4282614)

:thumbup::thumbup:

The only problem with liking your breeder is that you are more likely to return for another pup sooner than later. That is how Teddy, our second, came into our lives. :D

Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4282614)

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The only problem with liking your breeder is that you are more likely to return for another pup sooner than later. That is how Teddy, our second, came into our lives. :D

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 4282617)

You say that like it's a bad thing :cool:

Originally Posted by Teresiana (Post 4282620)

That's so true!! We've already spoken about who will be the sire of my next pup!

Originally Posted by ColesMommy01 (Post 4282660)

Thank you for everyone's feedback...it's true that with the mumur it could be "benign" or point to a deeper issue, which is why the breeder has the appointment tomorrow especially for this; to see if the vet can find what the root cause is. I can't see myself going through what you went through lynzy(hugs). I trust my breeder but I can see your standpoint and I will do what's best for my family and the puppy. I'll definitely keep everyone posted with how the outcome of the doctor's appointment tomorrow(but in a different thread lol)

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 4282597)

It absolutely should be taken seriously. And I'm sorry if it came across as downplaying it. But until the puppy is examined again and it's determined whether or not the murmur is still present there really isn't any reason for her to run from this breeder. From what she has posted, the breeder is being very transparent about what is going on so that she can make an educated decision on whether or not to bring this pup home. I'll give her kudos for that rather than trying to hide things.