People who don't value dogs

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

Unfortunately, it's not unheard of and it happens quite often. Last summer I heard in the news that a young woman left her golden retriever puppy in her car while she shopped at the Ontario Mills mall (huge outlet mall) for THREE HOURS. The dog died.

I actually don't have a problem with leaving a dog in the car for a few minutes if the AC is on. Uni loves the AC. We have no AC in the shop or at home, so she's actually more comfortable in the car.

That's so sad that poor dog. And honestly, before coming here, I never knew how dangerous it was to leave dogs in cars. I mean you'd think it'd be common sense but even some of the simplest thoughts still need to be advertised. I could never leave Miley in the car alone due to fear of theft. I would die if something happened to her

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

That's so sad that poor dog. And honestly, before coming here, I never knew how dangerous it was to leave dogs in cars. I mean you'd think it'd be common sense but even some of the simplest thoughts still need to be advertised. I could never leave Miley in the car alone due to fear of theft. I would die if something happened to her

Theft is a big factor, which is why I only leave Uni in the car for a few minutes at a time. Also you have to choose your parking spot wisely as well. But she is not a puppy anymore, so she just chills and sits in the seat. You'd never know she was there. But when she was a pup, she would jump all around the seats and bark.

However I do get annoyed sometimes. Once it was not even 60 degrees out and drizzling this woman told me I was being inhumane by not leaving the window open. Yeah so someone could steal her?

[luvlee]

As an old attorney myself, I understand the legal principle that the gentleman was suggesting. In our society, like it or not, a beloved pet is still deemed a "chattel" or property. For example, if your beloved pet was mishandled by a groomer, vet, pet sitter, or negligently injured by anyone and was killed, the most you could recover from any Court in the United States is the economic value of that pet -- his/her proven purchase price. You'd get nothing for your baby's pain/suffering or your emotional distress. Maybe -- and I say maybe depending upon the laws of your State -- you'd get vet bills reimbursed.

IMHO: His comment was immature & unnecessary but it was based upon an old legal principle that's still in effect today. Instead of expending energy chastizing him, the people in this like-minded community should work harder at changing our laws.

That's just my explanatory 2 cents. I agree with everybody on the bandwagon, however.

[Christinee]

People who don't value dogs usually arent very warm people. And they are definitely missing out on a good part of life. That's a fact.

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by luvlee

As an old attorney myself, I understand the legal principle that the gentleman was suggesting. In our society, like it or not, a beloved pet is still deemed a "chattel" or property. For example, if your beloved pet was mishandled by a groomer, vet, pet sitter, or negligently injured by anyone and was killed, the most you could recover from any Court in the United States is the economic value of that pet -- his/her proven purchase price. You'd get nothing for your baby's pain/suffering or your emotional distress. Maybe -- and I say maybe depending upon the laws of your State -- you'd get vet bills reimbursed.

IMHO: His comment was immature & unnecessary but it was based upon an old legal principle that's still in effect today. Instead of expending energy chastizing him, the people in this like-minded community should work harder at changing our laws.

That's just my explanatory 2 cents. I agree with everybody on the bandwagon, however.

There are also many laws already on the books concerning abuse and neglect of animals. The woman in this story was charged. I would like to see this side of law strengthened, and change the whole "pets are property" thing.

[capt_noonie]

The young woman who's golden died was also charged.

[spiritwings1202]

It is so upsetting to read that people do this to their animals. WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? I love my dogs like my children.

[luvlee]

Originally Posted by Maximo

There are also many laws already on the books concerning abuse and neglect of animals. The woman in this story was charged. I would like to see this side of law strengthened, and change the whole "pets are property" thing.

Yes, but unfortunately, many (not all) of these state statutes don't have much teeth beyond a fine.

[MyTrixie143]

Oh this makes me so upset. I can't stand people like that. Lack of compassion for a living breathing creature just really gets on my nerves.

It is so sad that the yorkie died from something so easily prevented. I do hope the woman is charged.

I hate that pets are considered property only. I would love to see that law change. These days pets are family to many of us and we are devastated when something happens to them. You can replace any piece of property and make it an exact duplicate but you can't ever do that with a pet as they are living breathing unique individuals and you will never get that back.

Originally Posted by AmoreYorkie

I know many people who have dogs tied up in their backyard simply for the purpose of HAVING A DOG IN THE BACKYARD!!!

I've never understood this. I see it all the time and I can't tell you how many times I've been tempted to just take the dog. Literally no interaction with the dog besides giving it some food and water. Really what is the point? Why have a dog you are just going to chain up outside and never do anything with it? Go get a life sized stuffed animal, less mess to clean up and you don't even have to feed them.

[Gillykat]

Originally Posted by AmoreYorkie

I know many people who have dogs tied up in their backyard simply for the purpose of HAVING A DOG IN THE BACKYARD!!! And it's completely normal to them.

I've NEVER understood that either Folk who keep their poor dogs in the yard 24/7 should have the poor mite taken off them and be given a statue instead!!!!!

I actually find it upsetting the amount of folk regard taking their dog for a walk on the lead around the block or a couple of hundred yards to the shop to get their morning paper as adequate.....or even a chore!!!! To me, walking a dog is THE best thing in the world......watching them enjoying all the new sights and sounds and running and rolling in the grass or beach....even rolling in horse poop or mucky seaweed as my whippet Tina seemed to love doing the minute my attention was off her! Little monkey!!!!! I cannot wait to get my yorkie and take her everywhere to be socialised and, once she's old enough, out exploring the Northumberland countryside and beaches with me If he behaves I may even allow my husband to come with us hahaha

I've spoken to an amazing amount of folks who say they'd love a dog but are put off by the thought of picking up the poop Now THAT is a VERY silly reason to deny yourself the pure love that a dog gives Especially when these very same people have got children and have quite happily changed a nappy or wiped a baby's bum *yuck!!!!*

[Belle Noir]

Originally Posted by docmartin

Poor little soul - I'd give the 'owner' 30 seconds in a microwave!

This is what the poster was talking about.
I cannot and will not condone advocating violence for violence.
If you had the ability to do such a thing, what makes you any better than this woman. Her action was done in stupidity, and likely ignorance. Yours done in anger and retribution.
Read the first sentence. People were saying she should be left in the car to die too.
Is that where we have come? That if you are an animal lover, it is OK to wish harm on a fellow human being for harming a non human animal?
I'm sorry, but I think that kind of mind set is sickening.

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

I don't understand people who just keep a dog in the backyard and that's it. It's almost a chore to feed and clean up after them.

I forget whereI heard this term, but they're starting to call those dogs resident dogs. They even say that these types of resident dogs are not like pet dogs.. even though they are owned. And most dog bites come from these resident dogs that are chained, and not properly socialized, and the people say he never did anything like that.. He never had a chance because you chained him stupid!!!

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

That's so sad that poor dog. And honestly, before coming here, I never knew how dangerous it was to leave dogs in cars. I mean you'd think it'd be common sense but even some of the simplest thoughts still need to be advertised. I could never leave Miley in the car alone due to fear of theft. I would die if something happened to her

This is also the point that that poster was probably trying to make. Even though EVERY SUMMER, sometimes several times a month the news programs warn you about leaving your dog in the car, here is someone that admits they just didn't know about the dangers.
Who is to say this woman just didn't think either?

Originally Posted by MyTrixie143

I can't tell you how many times I've been tempted to just take the dog.

I have done that. 14 year old pit bull named Tank, record snow fall, chained in a yard, skin and bones, no shelter, but under a car.
I stole him and I fed him and treated him like a king, and when he died, I took his body to his so called owners and left it on their porch with a note saying that Tank died warm, happy, fed, and loved the way he should have, not freezing, sad, starving and forgotten like he would have.