something that REALLY grinds my gears...

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by Lisa and Pic

I agree, your breeder's name doesn't seem to have anything to do with your original question about the term teacup and why the word is so controversial. Hope you will be back soon.

And that's why I wanted to be done with this thread. My breeder was completely irrelevant and if others think I'm going to sit back and watch her be torn apart that's not happening!

[chachi]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

It's clearly a common thing for MOST people to want a smaller yorkie. Otherwise the term "teacup" wouldn't have the reputation that it has. I didn't say people don't want larger Yorkies.

I NEVER said that. And as I've come to find out Miley isn't even considered what would be considered "teacup" weight. Miley will be smaller than her brothers at 4.5 lbs or maybe even more and the breeder was worried about her being that little! Not once did I say I wanted a breeder who bred tinies unless you're referring to my desire for a small pup BEFORE coming here.

That is what you wanted not what most people want. Most people want a yorkie not a smaller yorkie

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by chachi

that is what you wanted not what most people want. Most people want a yorkie not a smaller yorkie

so then why is teacup such a hush hush word if that's just what i want?! If it wasn't something the majority of unknowledgeable people wanted in a yorkie we wouldn't even be having this discussion! And stop accusing me of wanting an unhealthy 3lb dog! For goodness sake!

[chachi]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

so then why is teacup such a hush hush word if that's just what i want?! If it wasn't something the majority of unknowledgeable people wanted in a yorkie we wouldn't even be having this discussion! And stop accusing me of wanting an unhealthy 3lb dog! For goodness sake!

All your doing what bad breeder do put more value on a smaller yorkie well tell that to someone who wanted an average size yorkie and adores their size. Not everyone wants the responsibility of a tiny and not everyone has the lifestyle for a tiny including me. Also if most people wanted a tiny most people would have a tiny

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

This topic kinda rubs me the wrong way reputable breeders do not use the word teacup period so why should we? You won't see people out there selling "teapots" and jacking there price up ridiculously so no harm is done with the nick name but with teacups if you are using that word you are saying yep there fine so go look for your teacup. So what is the point of this? Do you want to call your puppy a teacup? To those of us who are educated about the breed feel like when someone uses the word teacup that they must not be educated in the breed. The standard is not to exceed 7 pounds so any yorkie under that is standard not a miniature or anything like that. Personally I think a teacup is something to drink tea out of and a teapot is the pot your tea is in.

Right but it's the reason WHY they don't use it that gets me. I get that the BYBs have completely destroyed the term I really do but it's almost always assumed when someone sees a smaller yorkie (I now understand that Miley will fit what is the standard) that they came from a BYB or their going to be sick and live an unhealthy life and I guess that's what bothers me about it. Now yes if the tiny came from a BYB absolutely...you don't understand how many people have asked me to let Miley mate with their dogs to "make puppies and get money" I tell them ABSOLUTELY NOT and when she is old enough she will be SPAYED. They don't understand how much goes into breeding and healthy bloodlines, etc. and from my research reputable breeders make barely anything off of breeding because of what has to be done in order to even make such amazing puppies!

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by chachi

All your doing what bad breeder do put more value on a smaller yorkie well tell that to someone who wanted an average size yorkie and adores their size. Not everyone wants the responsibility of a tiny and not everyone has the lifestyle for a tiny including me. Also if most people wanted a tiny most people would have a tiny

k....

[cindersellie]

Originally Posted by chachi

All your doing what bad breeder do put more value on a smaller yorkie well tell that to someone who wanted an average size yorkie and adores their size. Not everyone wants the responsibility of a tiny and not everyone has the lifestyle for a tiny including me. Also if most people wanted a tiny most people would have a tiny

Most people buy a pup and expect an average sized dog at maturity. I bought mine expecting that. God decided I was getting a tiny one. I'd have adored her no matter what size she ended up as, because I loved her from the moment I met her.

So, what your saying is that when we use the term teacup, we're supporting bad breeders and putting value on tinies just by using that term? My thinking was that when someone searched Teacup Yorkie, YT would pop up and they could read about them on here before they bought one from the online tiny breeder. ( I did a search like that and yes, YT is popping up for teacup yorkies, and teapot yorkies).

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by cindersellie

Most people buy a pup and expect an average sized dog at maturity. I bought mine expecting that. God decided I was getting a tiny one. I'd have adored her no matter what size she ended up as, because I loved her from the moment I met her.

So, what your saying is that when we use the term teacup, we're supporting bad breeders and putting value on tinies just by using that term? My thinking was that when someone searched Teacup Yorkie, YT would pop up and they could read about them on here before they bought one from the online tiny breeder. ( I did a search like that and yes, YT is popping up for teacup yorkies, and teapot yorkies).

thank you and that's all I'm saying. Just because someone does get a tiny from a REPUTABLE breeder because they DO happen just like premie babies happen doesn't mean that they should be looked at like they're the scum of the earth. Everyone is different and I did want Miley to be on the smaller side of Yorkies I don't want a 16lb yorkie like some people do.

[ironmike86]

I get your point. But It's simply a bad word in the Yorkie world. Like calling a person a racial slur. Say one out loud to somebody you will get the same reaction. I would just get over the word "teacup". It's a bad word. Arguing your point will get know where. Ask Paula Deen JMO

[cindersellie]

Originally Posted by ironmike86

I get your point. But It's simply a bad word in the Yorkie world. Like calling a person a racial slur. Say one out loud to somebody you will get the same reaction. I would just get over the word "teacup". It's a bad word. Arguing your point will get know where. Ask Paula Deen JMO

Paula Deen- LMAO!

I get it, but now YT is linked forever to the T word on the interent!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Teresiana

I understand how by reading this thread, one could be lead to believe that xoCourtney sought out a breeder who breeds tinies. But from reading her previous posts, I don't think that is the case. In fact, it's been mentioned in previous threads that her breeder is an AKC Breeder of Merit. I believe her pup is actually expected to mature within the smaller range of standard & is not what we at YT would consider a "teacup". I just wanted to put that out there because I have a fierce loyalty towards my breeder & I understand how people would want to protect theirs from criticism as well.

Thanks! I may have misread or misunderstood. I will have to go back and look again....I swore that she had said she looked for a tiny.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

It's clearly a common thing for MOST people to want a smaller yorkie. Otherwise the term "teacup" wouldn't have the reputation that it has. I didn't say people don't want larger Yorkies.

I NEVER said that. And as I've come to find out Miley isn't even considered what would be considered "teacup" weight. Miley will be smaller than her brothers at 4.5 lbs or maybe even more and the breeder was worried about her being that little! Not once did I say I wanted a breeder who bred tinies unless you're referring to my desire for a small pup BEFORE coming here.

You said very rarely do they want one and that is simply not a fact.

As to the rest of it, I must have been half asleep when reading and I apologize if I misread your posts.

[Deb1]

A Yorkie is a Yorkie,
Big or Small, we love them all!
3 cheers for all sizes!

[KazzyK810]

Originally Posted by ironmike86

I get your point. But It's simply a bad word in the Yorkie world. Like calling a person a racial slur. Say one out loud to somebody you will get the same reaction. I would just get over the word "teacup". It's a bad word. Arguing your point will get know where. Ask Paula Deen JMO

Exactly!

A word is just a word, until the general public assigns additional meanings to it. Tcup is a slur in the yorkie world. Best to avoid it.

[luvlee]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

I NEVER said that. And as I've come to find out Miley isn't even considered what would be considered "teacup" weight. Miley will be smaller than her brothers at 4.5 lbs or maybe even more and the breeder was worried about her being that little! Not once did I say I wanted a breeder who bred tinies unless you're referring to my desire for a small pup BEFORE coming here.

BTW, don't be surprised if your baby ends up being closer to or over 6 lbs. At that young age, a breeder - even a very good one - is only giving you a "best guess."

You'll be surprised when your baby has a little spurt after 7 months!

Good luck. Tracey