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Lovetodream88 06-21-2013 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251168)
K but you're still missing my point. I NEVER SAID GO BUY FROM A BAD BREEDER!
No one said you did but you keep digging at people saying stuff like see that's a healthy tiny yorkie when no one said tiny yorkies are unhealthy. Using the word teacup = bad breeder its not gonna change just because you want to call your dog a teacup.

Lovetodream88 06-21-2013 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251172)
I personally feel as if that's like me saying you can't get rid of puppy mills and BYBs.
No its totally different no reputable breeder will EVER want teacup associated with there dogs that is a fact.

xoCourtney 06-21-2013 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4251175)
No its totally different no reputable breeder will EVER want teacup associated with there dogs that is a fact.
Yes, it's different to you...and that's just something we are going to have to agree to disagree on. Along with always wanting to know why, I am a very optimistic person. Believe me, I'm not saying breeders should start breeding for "teacups". I'm just saying it's not uncommon for the average person to see a smaller pup and think "teacup". I know the millers and BYBs have destroyed that name so 9/10 it probably will forever be destroyed. And relevant or not I am curious as to what yorkies under 4lbs were referred to before they changed the standard. Because according to the AKC website "standard" was 4-7lbs. Someone, not knowing about that the YTCA sets the rules, could easily see that and think oh my puppy is under 4lbs that must mean they are a teacup. So idk maybe AKC needs to change their site then because in my opinion that is showing that smaller yorkies don't fit into the standard.

chachi 06-21-2013 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251162)
Before the "standard" was changed what would you refer a smaller pup as? Okay but I also never said get your smaller dog from a bad breeder!
the standard has never changed. It is the YTCA that sets the standard and its always been 7 lbs and under

barneysmommmy 06-21-2013 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251180)
Yes, it's different to you...and that's just something we are going to have to agree to disagree on. Along with always wanting to know why, I am a very optimistic person. Believe me, I'm not saying breeders should start breeding for "teacups". I'm just saying it's not uncommon for the average person to see a smaller pup and think "teacup". I know the millers and BYBs have destroyed that name so 9/10 it probably will forever be destroyed. And relevant or not I am curious as to what yorkies under 4lbs were referred to before they changed the standard. Because according to the AKC website "standard" was 4-7lbs. Someone, not knowing about that the YTCA sets the rules, could easily see that and think oh my puppy is under 4lbs that must mean they are a teacup. So idk maybe AKC needs to change their site then because in my opinion that is showing that smaller yorkies don't fit into the standard.
I know that yorkies larger than 7 pounds are referred to as "out of standard". So, at the time that the standard was 4-7 pounds, yorkies that were smaller than 4 pounds were probably also referred to as "out of standard".

Lovetodream88 06-21-2013 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4251181)
the standard has never changed. It is the YTCA that sets the standard and its always been 7 lbs and under
:thumbup::thumbup:

mimimomo 06-21-2013 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251165)
I just hate what is ASSOCIATED with the term teacup. Teapot, although a joke, has such a clean reputation and seems to be okay with everyone although it is only used on here but I do feel like if bigger Yorkies were as "in demand" as smaller Yorkies then maybe teapot would be bad too
There wouldn't be the taboo controversial ethics end to breeding teapots bc they won't use 2.5-3# females.
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251180)
Yes, it's different to you...and that's just something we are going to have to agree to disagree on. Along with always wanting to know why, I am a very optimistic person. Believe me, I'm not saying breeders should start breeding for "teacups". I'm just saying it's not uncommon for the average person to see a smaller pup and think "teacup". I know the millers and BYBs have destroyed that name so 9/10 it probably will forever be destroyed. And relevant or not I am curious as to what yorkies under 4lbs were referred to before they changed the standard. Because according to the AKC website "standard" was 4-7lbs. Someone, not knowing about that the YTCA sets the rules, could easily see that and think oh my puppy is under 4lbs that must mean they are a teacup. So idk maybe AKC needs to change their site then because in my opinion that is showing that smaller yorkies don't fit into the standard.
I think you're missing the point...unethical BYB's & vile Puppy Millers are the ones who created the word teacup.

cindersellie 06-21-2013 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4251181)
the standard has never changed. It is the YTCA that sets the standard and its always been 7 lbs and under
Then what's show standard? 5 to 7 lbs?

cindersellie 06-21-2013 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by barneysmommmy (Post 4251183)
I know that yorkies larger than 7 pounds are referred to as "out of standard". So, at the time that the standard was 4-7 pounds, yorkies that were smaller than 4 pounds were probably also referred to as "out of standard".
Thanks for clearing that up. I knew I read there was a standard of 5 to 7 lbs that breeders should shoot for when breeding, along with health histories being done.

xoCourtney 06-21-2013 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4251189)
There wouldn't be the taboo controversial ethics end to breeding teapots bc they won't use 2.5-3# females.

I think you're missing the point...unethical BYB's & vile Puppy Millers are the ones who created the word teacup.
I get that...maybe I'm not explaining myself correctly...let me try this again:

What I am referring to are breeders whos dam is say 6lbs and have a puppy that was ESTIMATED (i know no one knows adult weight) to be 2lbs.

that part that I bolded made perfect sense :thumbup:

xoCourtney 06-21-2013 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cindersellie (Post 4251191)
Then what's show standard? 5 to 7 lbs?
right and that's what I was trying to say...I'm really bad with words if you all haven't figured it out yet haha. So is a 3lber aloud in the ring?

xoCourtney 06-21-2013 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4251181)
the standard has never changed. It is the YTCA that sets the standard and its always been 7 lbs and under
Right and I now know that thanks to you all :p but I don't understand why the AKC has a bottom weight on their website :confused: I feel like that can get really confusing and, not to bash the AKC at all I love everything they do for our pups, if it's this really high registry shouldn't they have the correct weights on their page? :2omg:

cindersellie 06-21-2013 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251198)
Right and I now know that thanks to you all :p but I don't understand why the AKC has a bottom weight on their website :confused: I feel like that can get really confusing and, not to bash the AKC at all I love everything they do for our pups, if it's this really high registry shouldn't they have the correct weights on their page? :2omg:
:thumbup: I think that's where I read the weight thing at? I really don't remember. :( But I know I read about it.:)

mimimomo 06-21-2013 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251198)
Right and I now know that thanks to you all :p but I don't understand why the AKC has a bottom weight on their website :confused: I feel like that can get really confusing and, not to bash the AKC at all I love everything they do for our pups, if it's this really high registry shouldn't they have the correct weights on their page? :2omg:
I think the bottom weight is there bc Yorkies under 3#'s can't be shown. 3 1/2 maybe, but not many qualify. Not sure on this, I could be wrong...

cindersellie 06-21-2013 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4251206)
I think the bottom weight is there bc Yorkies under 3#'s can't be shown. 3 1/2 maybe, but not many qualify. Not sure on this, I could be wrong...

Oh, Thanks. I don't show dogs, so I haven't really been to that section of YT.


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