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xoCourtney 06-20-2013 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4249932)
you have been equally rude to me and i can reply to any thread on here that i want to
I had no problem with you until you wanted to attack my breeder and told me put my money where my mouth is as if I was sitting up lying about my breeder or something but again...not getting into it with you.

Lovetodream88 06-20-2013 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4249931)
Okay I'm not even going to get into this.
Its just the who can post where and what argument has been a big one here in the past.

xoCourtney 06-20-2013 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4249936)
Its just the who can post where and what argument has been a big one here in the past.
I feel if you can't respect the OP then why bother posting on their thread? I haven't been here that long nor have I encountered that issue before so I'm not sure what that's about.

cindersellie 06-20-2013 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4249906)
Many of us have gotten our yorkies from bad breeders/puppy mills so we want to warm other people of the heartbreak that getting a dog from a bad breeder can cause. We also want people to stop buying from bad breeders/puppy mills so they stop making money and have to shut down. We HAVE to be be the voice for those who can not speak.
Call your state representative. Unless we limit the amount of dogs that can be on a property- BYBs and puppymills will always exist. Be heard by people who make the laws.

yorkietalkjilly 06-20-2013 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4249906)
Many of us have gotten our yorkies from bad breeders/puppy mills so we want to warm other people of the heartbreak that getting a dog from a bad breeder can cause. We also want people to stop buying from bad breeders/puppy mills so they stop making money and have to shut down. We HAVE to be be the voice for those who can not speak.
After having such a small dog myself(a runt from a litter with other standard-sized pups) and seeing what she went through with her various GI, malabsorption, orthopedic and size-related living problems and having to sit by while she did the suffering for being born too tiny, I will always raise my voice against anyone who would breed to deliberately create a litter subject to the kind of hell little Jilly went through in her life. I wish everyone who wants a tiny dog and does actually get one winds up with a healthy one who is never injured due to to its tiny size and has inherited no bad problems and won't ever have to sit by and watch them suffer due to all those medical problems so many of them have due to being so tiny. But sadly, that is too often not the case. And "teacup" - don't get me started on what I think of someone who purposefully and with malice aforethought creates "teacup" Yorkies knowing of the problems they are so often born to have and the life so many of them will have to live!!! Shame on those breeders.

Lovetodream88 06-20-2013 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cindersellie (Post 4249934)
OK, what if the breed is mutating? They were 15 lbs? now their 7 and under... LOL! Mine won't be helping the line downsize. We are discussing the term and why it's the t-word LOL! Good discussions are enlightening! Many will pop in off the net and read this and stay to find out why teacup is a bad word!
I personally wish there was a standard set higher or bigger yorkies being breed by good breeders. I would love a good bred 15 pounder maybe even two :D

xoCourtney 06-20-2013 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cindersellie (Post 4249934)
OK, what if the breed is mutating? They were 15 lbs? now their 7 and under... LOL! Mine won't be helping the line downsize. We are discussing the term and why it's the t-word LOL! Good discussions are enlightening! Many will pop in off the net and read this and stay to find out why teacup is a bad word!
Hahaha it does seem to be mutating huh?!

cindersellie 06-20-2013 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4249926)
As long as there not using the word teacup and following all the "rules" a good breeder does there is nothing wrong with getting the small pups.
:thumbup::thumbup: and those ones are healthy, I might add.

xoCourtney 06-20-2013 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4249940)
After having such a small dog myself(a runt from a litter with other standard-sized pups) and seeing what she went through with her various GI, malabsorption, orthopedic and size-related living problems and having to sit by while she did the suffering for being born too tiny, I will always raise my voice against anyone who would breed to deliberately create a litter subject to the kind of hell little Jilly went through in her life. I wish everyone who wants a tiny dog and does actually get one winds up with a healthy one who is never injured due to to its tiny size and has inherited no bad problems and won't ever have to sit by and watch them suffer due to all those medical problems so many of them have due to being so tiny. But sadly, that is too often not the case. And "teacup" - don't get me started on what I think of someone who purposefully and with malice aforethought creates "teacup" Yorkies knowing of the problems they are so often born to have and the life so many of them will have to live!!! Shame on those breeders.
Okay but this thread isn't about breeders who purposely breed for tinies! That's what everyone seems to be missing.

mimimomo 06-20-2013 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4249894)
And my point is that's mainly because of the reputation BYBs have given the term.
It's not just BYB's, it's Puppy Mills too. If you google 'teacup yorkies' you'll get hundreds of sites selling tiny mini micro teacups, not only yorkies, but pommies, poodles, all sorts of breeds for outrageous prices. Some of these babies leave their moms too young (only 5-6 weeks) & even get shipped here by plane in cargo & many do not make it...all for the mighty $. They sell these poor innocent pups for thousands, lying about their age, saying they're couple months old when they're only a couple weeks old. To top it all off, you won't even get the pup pictured online, it will be a different pup & you can't do anything about it. The worse part, they breed 3# or less females & don't care if she has to have c-sections, over & over to the point where her stomach is hard as a turtle shell from scarring. To me, the word teacup describes these unethical practices of vile human greed @ it's lowest form.

I always get asked if my guys are teacups, they range from 5-7#'s. I say no, they're just regular Yorkies.

Lovetodream88 06-20-2013 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4249944)
Okay but this thread isn't about breeders who purposely breed for tinies! That's what everyone seems to be missing.
Well when they use the word teacup they are breeding for tinies.

xoCourtney 06-20-2013 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4249948)
Well when they use the word teacup they are breeding for tinies.
Okay well I apologize for saying teacup and starting WWIII i was just saying the opposite of teapot

xoCourtney 06-20-2013 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4249946)
It's not just BYB's, it's Puppy Mills too. If you google 'teacup yorkies' you'll get hundreds of sites selling tiny mini micro teacups, not only yorkies, but pommies, poodles, all sorts of breeds for outrageous prices. Some of these babies leave their moms too young (only 5-6 weeks) & even get shipped here by plane in cargo & many do not make it...all for the mighty $. They sell these poor innocent pups for thousands, lying about their age, saying they're couple months old when they're only a couple weeks old. To top it all off, you won't even get the pup pictured online, it will be a different pup & you can't do anything about it. The worse part, they breed 3# or less females & don't care if she has to have c-sections, over & over to the point where her stomach is hard as a turtle shell from scarring. To me, the word teacup describes these unethical practices of vile human greed @ it's lowest form.

I always get asked if my guys are teacups, they range from 5-7#'s. I say no, they're just regular Yorkies.
I did google it, that's how I wound up here lol

cindersellie 06-20-2013 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4249930)
ehhh well I didn't get that. I felt like you wanted to say people who hate the word teacup hate small puppies and that just not how it is.
Assumptions aren't good. OP wanted to know why we as a group don't like the term teacups since the term teapots is ok to use. We have enlightened her, and then some!

yorkietalkjilly 06-20-2013 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4249944)
Okay but this thread isn't about breeders who purposely breed for tinies! That's what everyone seems to be missing.
I posted what I felt about "teacup" dogs' lives and the people that willingly create them. I will never stop trying to warn people on any thread about the subject of the "teacup" Yorkie and per the rules, that is what I did. New readers join everyday and we have visitors who may not know some of the issues I and others posted.


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