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nanahas3 06-21-2013 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 4251035)
You have to understand that MOST breeders think they are reputable, when we know that most are NOT. Does a byb'er label themselves as such? Of course not. I would even go as far and say that millers don't think they are millers.
Off subject but had to say I love your new avatar lol. Talk about a little one looking spoiled.:p

chachi 06-21-2013 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 4251035)
You have to understand that MOST breeders think they are reputable, when we know that most are NOT. Does a byb'er label themselves as such? Of course not. I would even go as far and say that millers don't think they are millers.
Exactly they all think they are reputable but its the ones that walk the walk instead of talk the talk that really are

capt_noonie 06-21-2013 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MidnightUnicorn (Post 4251013)
I'm jumping in late here. I must say, I agree with Courtney.

I have a tiny yorkie. Tatiana is 3 lbs. I don't mind when others refer to her as a teacup. She's approaching six years old, and healthy as a horse. Every major vet procedure she went through (spay, dental extractions, etc.), she made a full recovery quickly. The vet remarked how scrappy she was.

Not every tiny yorkie is sickly or came from a bad breeder. In fact, Tatiana seems healthier than some larger yorkies I've come across.

Also, Tatiana looks remarkably young for her age. She ages well, too. People do a double-take when I tell them her age (they asked me). Some crazy woman told me,"Almost six years old? You must mean in human years, so she's almost one year old." I said,"No, she six years old in DOG years. She was born in 2007." That woman was shocked. Incidentally, why would say my dog's age in HUMAN years??
Actually, you ARE saying your dog's age in human years. In dog years she would be about 40-42. 7 dog years=1 human year.

capt_noonie 06-21-2013 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nanahas3 (Post 4251040)
Off subject but had to say I love your new avatar lol. Talk about a little one looking spoiled.:p
Thanks. She was being particularly good that day. Usually when we eat al fresco she screams at the top of her lungs. She got a lot of cabbage and bits of bread that day. :)

capt_noonie 06-21-2013 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 4251010)
It was terrible because of the number of members who had bought from her. It was AAI that showed up in her lines. She denied it. It was Natalies yorkies and she claimed to be a reputable breeder because she had been doing it for 30 yrs
And if I remember correctly, pretty much all her dams were under 4 lbs. :thumbdown

chachi 06-21-2013 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 4251045)
And if I remember correctly, pretty much all her dams were under 4 lbs. :thumbdown
They were and she claimed she never had any c sections in 30 yrs but I dont believe it

xoCourtney 06-21-2013 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MidnightUnicorn (Post 4251013)
I'm jumping in late here. I must say, I agree with Courtney.

I have a tiny yorkie. Tatiana is 3 lbs. I don't mind when others refer to her as a teacup. She's approaching six years old, and healthy as a horse. Every major vet procedure she went through (spay, dental extractions, etc.), she made a full recovery quickly. The vet remarked how scrappy she was.

Not every tiny yorkie is sickly or came from a bad breeder. In fact, Tatiana seems healthier than some larger yorkies I've come across.

Also, Tatiana looks remarkably young for her age. She ages well, too. People do a double-take when I tell them her age (they asked me). Some crazy woman told me,"Almost six years old? You must mean in human years, so she's almost one year old." I said,"No, she six years old in DOG years. She was born in 2007." That woman was shocked. Incidentally, why would say my dog's age in HUMAN years??
And that's all I'm saying! Your Tatiana is smaller and as healthy as could be! There ARE healthy tinies. And as far as the word teacup I guess it just means different things to everyone as well. But this goes back to my original statement...what would Tatiana be considered then if we went by saying standard is 5-7 lbs

Lovetodream88 06-21-2013 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251156)
And that's all I'm saying! Your Tatiana is smaller and as healthy as could be! There ARE healthy tinies. And as far as the word teacup I guess it just means different things to everyone as well. But this goes back to my original statement...what would Tatiana be considered then if we went by saying standard is 5-7 lbs
But that's not the standard! The standard is not to exceed 7 pounds so we don't have to worry about that. No one is saying EVERY tiny pup is sick we are saying tiny pups from bad breeders who claim to breed teacup are the ones who are normally sick.

xoCourtney 06-21-2013 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4251159)
But that's not the standard! The standard is not to exceed 7 pounds so we don't have to worry about that. No one is saying EVERY tiny pup is sick we are saying tiny pups from bad breeders who claim to breed teacup are the ones who are normally sick.
Before the "standard" was changed what would you refer a smaller pup as? Okay but I also never said get your smaller dog from a bad breeder!

Britster 06-21-2013 02:29 PM
Honestly, when people in normal life say 'teacup' it doesn't really bother me anymore. It's just something that people are using to describe a smaller sized dog and they just simply don't know. And typically it's not worth explaining.

And I have NEVER heard the word 'teapot' used in real life. It's a TOTAL joke lol. And to be honest, I've seen people state on here "oh your dog is a teapot" in a serious post and that kind of annoys me too because new people that come on here will probably think it's a real thing, haha. I would never say to someone who asks 'oh, he's a teapot yorkie'. hahaha.

I get the size thing to a point. I personally will never own a dog under 10-12lbs. It's just not my thing. But I understand some love having these tiny dogs. To me it's just a matter of safety. If you are seeking out a dog that grows no bigger than 3lbs, honestly just get a guinea pig.

xoCourtney 06-21-2013 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 4251163)
Honestly, when people in normal life say 'teacup' it doesn't really bother me anymore. It's just something that people are using to describe a smaller sized dog and they just simply don't know. And typically it's not worth explaining.

And I have NEVER heard the word 'teapot' used in real life. It's a TOTAL joke lol. And to be honest, I've seen people state on here "oh your dog is a teapot" in a serious post and that kind of annoys me too because new people that come on here will probably think it's a real thing, haha. I would never say to someone who asks 'oh, he's a teapot yorkie'. hahaha.
I just hate what is ASSOCIATED with the term teacup. Teapot, although a joke, has such a clean reputation and seems to be okay with everyone although it is only used on here but I do feel like if bigger Yorkies were as "in demand" as smaller Yorkies then maybe teapot would be bad too

Lovetodream88 06-21-2013 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251162)
Before the "standard" was changed what would you refer a smaller pup as? Okay but I also never said get your smaller dog from a bad breeder!
They were probably called small its a mute point because its not like that now. They were not called teacups by reputable breeders not by a long shot so who cares. NO ONE SAID ALL SMALL YORKIES ARE SICK JUST THE ONES FROM BAD BREEDERS.

xoCourtney 06-21-2013 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4251167)
They were probably called small its a mute point because its not like that now. They were not called teacups by reputable breeders not by a long shot so who cares. NO ONE SAID ALL SMALL YORKIES ARE SICK JUST THE ONES FROM BAD BREEDERS.
K but you're still missing my point. I NEVER SAID GO BUY FROM A BAD BREEDER!

Lovetodream88 06-21-2013 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by xoCourtney (Post 4251165)
I just hate what is ASSOCIATED with the term teacup. Teapot, although a joke, has such a clean reputation and seems to be okay with everyone although it is only used on here but I do feel like if bigger Yorkies were as "in demand" as smaller Yorkies then maybe teapot would be bad too
You can't change what is associated with the term teacup you just can't.

xoCourtney 06-21-2013 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4251169)
You can't change what is associated with the term teacup you just can't.
I personally feel as if that's like me saying you can't get rid of puppy mills and BYBs.


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