Has anyone used a dog communicater?

[kjc]

Originally Posted by kjc

Instead of trying to control the walk, I just let it happen. Before, I would shorten the leash, stop, reverse direction, etc to get her to listen. Now, I just go with her flow. If she wants to stop to look at something, we stop. If she gets freaky and wants to avoid something, I don't push the issue. Like she's fearful of manhole covers. I don't walk on the other side of the street to avoid them, but I also don't force her to stop and look at it. More like I pretend it's not there, but most times I will walk on it and she'll walk past it. She walks like a tornado past houses, but when we reach the wooded part of the road, she settles down. I think she was attacked at some point before I owned her... she needs to have a 360 degree view around her when walking past all the houses and yards. In the woods, she returns to walking like a normal dog.

Last time I go off topic: I'm so excited... today on our walk, I tried carrying her past her worst spots, she was 99% better, even when I put her back down. So I'm sure it's more fear based than aggressiveness.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by kjc

Last time I go off topic: I'm so excited... today on our walk, I tried carrying her past her worst spots, she was 99% better, even when I put her back down. So I'm sure it's more fear based than aggressiveness.

[llcornell]

Originally Posted by kjc

I am most curious! I did research dog communicators at one point but never went further, even though the price seemed fairly reasonable.

IDK, doesn't knowing the 'why' sometimes help in which way to go with the training? One of mine is a bit of an aggressive walker, and I've narrowed it down to being fear-based, which really changed the way I handle her. At first I assumed she was being alpha, so I stepped up my alpha but things got worse. When I realized her fear, I changed to being overly calm and understanding, which helps to settle her.

Originally Posted by navillusc

Always, between dissimilar entities...humans/dogs, etc...there is room for 'doubt' that communication is genuine. However, the ability to communicate 'telepathically' is well documented and many books have been written. I do not doubt at all the capability to communicate telepathically, and find your experience very interesting. I do tend to be a bit...well, maybe 'a lot'...skeptical of such things when presented as TV programming, but then, I consider everything on TV as 'paid for, fictional entertainment' and wouldn't be surprised to find that it was faked by paid actors/actresses. Hopefully, your foster will fully recover from all that ails her.

I got your Pm I dont mind talking about it...I will try to compose everything I can remember...it was very interesting.

Originally Posted by kjc

Instead of trying to control the walk, I just let it happen. Before, I would shorten the leash, stop, reverse direction, etc to get her to listen. Now, I just go with her flow. If she wants to stop to look at something, we stop. If she gets freaky and wants to avoid something, I don't push the issue. Like she's fearful of manhole covers. I don't walk on the other side of the street to avoid them, but I also don't force her to stop and look at it. More like I pretend it's not there, but most times I will walk on it and she'll walk past it. She walks like a tornado past houses, but when we reach the wooded part of the road, she settles down. I think she was attacked at some point before I owned her... she needs to have a 360 degree view around her when walking past all the houses and yards. In the woods, she returns to walking like a normal dog.

My Sam has the same problem and we kept treating it like aggression but after he saw a trainer she told us its fear and although he is still not easy to walk he is better

[llcornell]

My quotes and last post got really messed up I am typing on moblie. I am going to go over what the communicator said on my laptop so its not a jumble

[kjc]

Oh Yay!

[llcornell]

Ok so I will be very honest. I felt more than skeptical about this but also open to try anything to help.
So I never spoke with the communicator/healer prior to the first two sessions. The kind donator sent her my foster dogs bio and picture from our rescue page and paid her. The bio she read was the first one I had written when I got the dog and it really no longer applied to her. So she couldnt get much info from that. I picked her up myself at the shelter and only me and my husband know some of the details...the rescue nor anywhere online is this info posted.
She was a stray and wouldnt let us near her. I had initially said in her bio she was petrified of people but as time went on things changed and we felt it was not so much fear she has but she really just doesnt want us near but I hadnt changed her bio yet and didnt really know how to describe her.
The healer works with animals while they are asleep she said they are more open. She visited her twice and then she called me. She didnt ask me any questions about the dogs past or current state. She only told me what she saw in the sessions which she said the dog sends images to her so she does her best to interpret what it means and if she cant she would just tell me an image the dog sent for me to figure out. I will try to generalize so its not the longest story ever.
She said the first night they talked about her past and what happened. She talked about where my foster lived and so on. Things she said were the same as the shelter said and she described things that my husband and I assumed about her past based on her behavior. None of this could have been gathered from the web. Also she described my foster as bold and very curious which if she based anything from her bio I had posted describing her as petrified...one would not use those words to describe her but her bio was outdated and she is crazy, bold and curious.
The second night she said my foster wouldnt talk she wanted to know what happened to her family...which is crazy because this dog is the most loyal protective dog I have ever seen and I can so hear her saying that. She refused communication that night. But she did say she saw her in a blue bed with another dog and a man in the room when she visited her. I asked about a women (me) or another dog she said nope no women or other dog. Well all three dogs sleep together and I was there. I hung up and felt this was def a waste of my time...but later remembered I couldnt sleep and went to the couch and my little female always comes with me...weird!!!
The third try she said she that she knows we are helping her and she knows we wont hurt her and she is going to decide on her own if she will let us in. She wouldnt communicate after that...this is sooo my foster its crazy. We see her watch us, we know she isnt afraid she simply has not made the choice to accept us yet.
There are many small things and details that were so very specific that she told me...too many to go into just little quirks and things. I tried to condense the story and not go into the little details...hopefully it makes sense. But my foster is very different and her quirks are not general dog quirks so to have someone say them is weird and makes you wonder!
I appreciated that she didnt continue to take the donators money and said she couldnt help her. The whole thing left me confused and less skeptical than ever. Im a bit surprised that more people here havent used or have stories about communicators. I would love to hear what others have experienced.

[Yorkieaddict22]

As a psychology major and someone whose open minded I have seen people with amazing connection skills. Maybe not with words but there someone with interpersonal skills very tuned in my opinion can transmit messages. I know my dogs so deeply that I understand them. I would also be weary lots of scam artist.

[brezofleur]

I believe that there are people out there who are really sensitive to others, both animals and humans.

It kind of makes sense why she won't accept you...because you aren't her forever family. I hope that once she finds her family, she will accept them.

[llcornell]

Originally Posted by brezofleur

I believe that there are people out there who are really sensitive to others, both animals and humans.

It kind of makes sense why she won't accept you...because you aren't her forever family. I hope that once she finds her family, she will accept them.

The communicator mentioned that she knows we arent her family but how could she? I treat her just as I do my own.

[brezofleur]

Originally Posted by llcornell

The communicator mentioned that she knows we arent her family but how could she? I treat her just as I do my own.

Dogs just know some things. I don't think anyone on YT would deny that animals are really sensitive to human emotion. Why stop there? There's so much that the science world has not yet been able to touch and will not even come close to figuring out in our lifetime. Until then, "they just know" is really all I can say.

[llcornell]

Originally Posted by brezofleur

Dogs just know some things. I don't think anyone on YT would deny that animals are really sensitive to human emotion. Why stop there? There's so much that the science world has not yet been able to touch and will not even come close to figuring out in our lifetime. Until then, "they just know" is really all I can say.

Yep your right...in the beginning we had to give her meds and I would sit quietly and think about how I could catch her. She would at that point usually get up and exit through the doggie door to hide outside...it drove me crazy to think she knows

[Marhcarter]

Originally Posted by brezofleur

I believe that there are people out there who are really sensitive to others, both animals and humans.

I would be leery of anyone claiming to directly communicate with animals, but I agree that some folks are really intuitive, like that Jackson Galaxy guy who does the show on animal planet "my cat from hell". I would have never thought that anyone was capable of knowing what makes a cat tick and having the ability to change cat behaviors, but I now believe otherwise.

(The title of this thread intrigued me because I visualized a communicator or tricorder from star trek translating what the dog said )

[gracielove]

Although I would never pay for a communicator I do believe that animals are very sensitive to the communications that people put out. Not in the way we communicate or receive signals though. Animals can smell hormones that people and animals put out when they are experiencing various emotions. Animals understand body language as well as the tone of a voice of humans and pets. They even notice muscle movements. A dog that has been through the emotional mill is extra attentive and always questioning it's surroundings and especially the new people it has been introduced to.

We humans are so accustomed to verbal communication that we often miss what is going on inside our pet's head. That is why some people seem to have a way of easily training animals. Some have learned some parts of the communication process that pet's have and work with it in their training sessions. We can all learn to "listen" to what our pets are saying.

[navillusc]

Very interesting. Thank you for the story. That's really great...not only open to sentient communications but able to travel OOB as well. The Monroe Institute (Robert A. Monroe) comes immediately to mind. Amazing...I would keep that contact information f.o.r.e.v.e.r. LOL

There is much we do not know...or so it would seem...how wonderful to have someone to help you explore possibilities beyond your own capabilities...or at least confirm them...if ever you should find you need that kind of assistance.

I would think, for those trying to connect with someone genuine, that it would be very difficult to separate 'those who advertise their services' from 'those able to perform' them...and I doubt there are ever any guarantees of success making it more difficult to separate out the con artists. I think that would be my main issue if I felt inclined to seek out someone...finding the 'right' one.

I do believe what was told to you to be accurate. She knows she is temporary where she is, and she knows you are helping her...but it seems she may not understand why she is only temporarily there and may maintain a detachment the same way we would do if we believed we might 'fall in love' with someone we 'know' we will 'lose' soon. For ourselves, I think we might call that a 'self-protection' mechanism.

{{{Hugs}}}

[navillusc]

Originally Posted by Marhcarter

I would be leery of anyone claiming to directly communicate with animals, but I agree that some folks are really intuitive, like that Jackson Galaxy guy who does the show on animal planet "my cat from hell". I would have never thought that anyone was capable of knowing what makes a cat tick and having the ability to change cat behaviors, but I now believe otherwise.

(The title of this thread intrigued me because I visualized a communicator or tricorder from star trek translating what the dog said )

LMAO Did you know there is a movie...an animation...where there are dogs with 'translator collars' who do this very thing? I forget the name of the movie, but we saw it again recently. It is about a couple, the wife of which wants to visit, I think, "Paradise Falls" and the husband eventually 'flies' his home there with a stow-away boy along for the ride.