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Old 12-22-2005, 07:37 AM   #16
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Please don't take this the wrong way but if you love the yorkie breed, why in the world would you try to breed or purchace a dog under 4 lbs.

Many people on here are on YT say that they love their babies like a member oftheir family. Well if that's the case why you put your babies life/ health at risk by breeding really small dogs and then act shocked it they don't make it.

Experts even tell you that really small( AKA teacups) have a high mortality rate, and run the risk of more health issues. It's not about the money but why would I knowing this invest money $900-2000 in someone that I know that is doing something unhealthy and dangerous for the animal.

My baby is 4 years old and 7 lbs and it easy not to see him sometimes if he doesn't make is presence known. This breed was originally 15lbs, now the AKC standard is 4-7 lbs. now people are still trying to breed them down to something the size of a guinea pig which are kept in a cages to keep them safe from harm. ( think about it) Dogs are ment to run around.

If that isn't aniaml cruelty I don't know what is.....

Excuse me YT family, respect to everyone but I needed to vent.
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:37 AM   #17
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My point is people claim to love their dog but but their lives in danger.

I am a man and even I know any pregnancy puts any mother at risk while giving birth. My question is why would you subject a dog and or their puppies to possible death trying to give birth.
This is a VERY sore topic for me. Do a search and look at all the threads on tinies that have been closed. I do not condone it and worthless people that purposely breed these babies sicken me and if they were standing in front of me, someone would be taken away in an ambulance and it WON'T be me!
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:44 AM   #18
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I would never buy a tinie Yorkie because that is just not natural. When I was told Matthias would be around 7 pounds, I thought perfect! That's the way he's supposed to be! I can't see why people went out and tried to mutate the gene of a perfect breed to make an even tinier unhealthy version of it. It's irrisponsible. but it's done for money in most cases, I agree.
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I'm glad to see this discussion. My Susan is a little over 7 lbs. Part of me is a little disappointed and part is greatly relieved. The disappointed part wanted to get one of the carrying purse things and tote her around everywhere, but I have a bad shoulder and I can't carry a 7 lb dog for any length of time. I can carry her through about one antique shop (yeah, there are plenty that allow it) and that's about it for a couple of hours. The rest of me is really glad she's the size she is. My husband and I are both sort of clutzy and it would be dangerous for Susan to be around us if she were much smaller. She's exactly right as she is. Big enough for us to see but small enough to cuddle. I understand the cache with a tiny dog; they look SO neat, but a little bit bigger is usually healthier and easier to deal with, I think. So for my sake I guess I'm a little disappointed but for Susan's sake I'm very, very glad she's as big as she is. BTW, we had her spayed because we didn't want to risk an accident. A lot of big dogs in this area run loose and even though she always goes out on a leash, the definition of an accident is something that happens despite measures to reduce its changes of occuring. With a leash, there could still be an accidental pregnancy. This way there can't be.
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According to your comment nobody should have purchased my Bitsy!!!
Noooo...you didn't breed a tiny female...there is nothing wrong with owning a tiny yorkie, I personally just don't promote or support those who breed TINY females with tinier males and put the female at a GREATER health risk.
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Breeding tiny dogs in MY OPINION is animal abuse, neglect ect.... unfortunately money talks.... if people keep buying tinies, that are from tinies, people will keep breeding tinies.

It makes me sick... and well- I am just going to keep my mouth shut so I don't get in trouble.

NOTE- I am not talking about tinies that were born from standard size parents.
WELL SAID!! I agree with you 100%.

Breeding tinies to make more tinies is WRONG and unethical in my opinion. However, if standard size parents produce a tiny, then that is acceptable but I would (if I were the breeder) have the tiny spayed BEFORE sending her to her new home to guarantee that she would never be FORCED to breed.
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BTW, we had her spayed because we didn't want to risk an accident. A lot of big dogs in this area run loose and even though she always goes out on a leash, the definition of an accident is something that happens despite measures to reduce its changes of occuring. With a leash, there could still be an accidental pregnancy. This way there can't be.
What an excellent attitude to have!!
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BTW, we had her spayed because we didn't want to risk an accident. A lot of big dogs in this area run loose and even though she always goes out on a leash, the definition of an accident is something that happens despite measures to reduce its changes of occuring. With a leash, there could still be an accidental pregnancy. This way there can't be.
Good for you. See people, "accidents" don't have to happen.
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I also agree with Minniemn 100% !

We had our girls spayed before any heats, I think its the owners that should take the responsibility to have this done early enough so they won't have to worry about life threatening births, not to mention the possibility of cancer later one.

Our girls happened to be the so called " runts " of the litter from normal size parents and they turned out wonderful. They now remain 5 to 6 lbs. in size at 6yrs and 8 yrs old now.

It really makes me sick to see this beautiful breed changing for the sake of those people that want money instead of keeping a quality of the breed.

I better be quiet now but I had to vent too.
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I would never buy a tinie Yorkie because that is just not natural. When I was told Matthias would be around 7 pounds, I thought perfect! That's the way he's supposed to be! I can't see why people went out and tried to mutate the gene of a perfect breed to make an even tinier unhealthy version of it. It's irrisponsible. but it's done for money in most cases, I agree.

I bought a little girl and she is totally natural. Yorkies are supposed to be under 7 lbs. so sometimes they will naturally be less, and sometimes more. Breeding a small female is another story.
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I bought a little girl and she is totally natural. Yorkies are supposed to be under 7 lbs. so sometimes they will naturally be less, and sometimes more. Breeding a small female is another story.
I agree. I bought my little Tia -- who was bred from 2 STANDARD size parents -- and she's going to be very tiny full grown. But I do not think of her as "not natural" and I am insulted that anyone would say that she is not natural simply because she weighs less then their dog.

Now people who intentionally breed TINIES for the popular demand to make more tinies -- well, that's a whole different story. That is seriously wrong and disgusting. I call those so-called "breeders" BUTCHERS. They only breed GREED.
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I agree. I bought my little Tia -- who was bred from 2 STANDARD size parents -- and she's going to be very tiny full grown. But I do not think of her as "not natural" and I am insulted that anyone would say that she is not natural simply because she weighs less then their dog.

Now people who intentionally breed TINIES for the popular demand to make more tinies -- well, that's a whole different story. That is seriously wrong and disgusting. I call those so-called "breeders" BUTCHERS. They only breed GREED.

Yes I agree with you. There are Breeders, and then there are breeders, Their not the same. When I first joined YT, I was thinking of breeding Princess, just so my niece could have one. It wasn't the best thing for Princess so I didn't, and I won't. I went and found a good Breeder and bought a puppy for my niece instead. Princess & Minnie are great friends.
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