Larger Yorkies, will they be extinct?

[nanahas3]

I love yorkies of all sizes but when I decided I wanted one it was the look of the standard on the dog shows I fell in love with. That is why I choose to keep them in as long a coat as possible although I love the cuts others give theirs. My two are both smaller Kyra finally a couple weeks ago hit the 3lb mark after she eats i am so happy she made it and Laddy 4.8. Would I love them if they got to be 15 lbs? Of course I would they are my babies but I think as with any purebred we usually want as close to standard as possible when we get them.

[Belle Noir]

There are things that toy dogs are more prone to, no matter the breed, no matter the lines, no matter how well bred.
Liver shunt, luxating patellas, Leggs-Calves-Perths, collapsing trachea, are all toy breed problems. There are others, and I am not saying these things can't be found in larger breeds, they're just far more common in toy dogs. Not to mention toy breeds are known to break legs just jumping off something like a bed or sofa. How many threads are there here, how many posts are there were people are advised to not let their dogs jump on and off things, to train them to ramps and steps for just this reason? Again, not to say that it doesn't happen in large breeds as well, but it's far far more common in toy breeds.
Not only that, but should a toy breed dog get sick, the smaller they are, the more easily their system can be overwhelmed by infection, for example. Their tiny bodies are overwhelmed faster than a larger dog's body would be, AND they have fewer resources to draw on, because they are so small.
These things are directly tied to being bred to be small, even if the small is 7 lbs. So I have to disagree, size DOES have a correlation in health. That is not to say that all tinies are unhealthy. If that was the impression you got, I'm sorry.
I am just saying that the smaller a dog is, the more prone that dog is to certain serious issues, and this isn't an opinion, it's a fact, just like the largest breeds also have health issues and concerns that while smaller breeds have them, they are a particular concern to giant breeds.

All things being equal, if you have two breeders doing all the same health tests and checks, and being diligent in their breeding, but one breeder bred out of standard teapots and the other only bred to standard size, in my opinion, the teapots would be slightly healthier, more study, and less fragile. Not only that, but the teapot would be more family friendly, and could do more with it's people, even if there were no children, since toy dogs tend to get more tired faster, and overheat faster than larger ones on things like walks, because of their tiny little legs.

The first yorkie I saw, after talking with my guy about getting a dog, was a silk coat teapot that had to weigh about 15 lbs. And he had prick ears. The only thing "wrong" about him other than his size, was that he was starting to "run gold" and had a inch wide band of gold growing out from both sides of his part.
So larger size doesn't have to mean floppy ears or cotton coat. That can't even be blamed on poor breeding, since even reputable breeders have floppy eared puppies and cotton coats once in a while. There is no reason that someone cannot have yorkies that are bred to the standard in every way except size.

That's just my opinion. Like I said, I don't see any problem with someone breeding out of standard size dogs, so long as they do the correct and proper health and genetic screenings for their breeding stock. It's no different than those who are breeding out of standard color dogs. If one is accepted/tolerated, why not the other IF the person is doing the correct health and genetic tests?

[tiggerific4vr]

I bought my Yorkie "Koda" 7 years ago, The breeder said it was a larger yorkie and would be about 10-15 lbs. I saw the parents and they were not that big. But "Koda" is now about 23lbs and his ears never stood up. But I love him just the same. My dad has a small yorkie about 8lbs and he puts my doggie in his place. My vet prefers bigger Yorkies as she said they are sturdier dogs with less problems. My yorkie just tore his ACL which is a common problem in yorkies. But now he can excerise, so I 'm looking to getting him back down to about 19 lbs. Which is were the Vet says he should be. So Love your "yorkie" now matter how big or small, and they will love you back!
I attached some pictures of my 'Koda Bear" doggie!

[jeane]

what a handsome guy

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Oh as long as there are people out there breeding 18 and 12 lb dogs...I think you can lay your extinction fears to rest.

Amen...

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by tiggerific4vr

I bought my Yorkie "Koda" 7 years ago, The breeder said it was a larger yorkie and would be about 10-15 lbs. I saw the parents and they were not that big. But "Koda" is now about 23lbs and his ears never stood up. But I love him just the same. My dad has a small yorkie about 8lbs and he puts my doggie in his place. My vet prefers bigger Yorkies as she said they are sturdier dogs with less problems. My yorkie just tore his ACL which is a common problem in yorkies. But now he can excerise, so I 'm looking to getting him back down to about 19 lbs. Which is were the Vet says he should be. So Love your "yorkie" now matter how big or small, and they will love you back!
I attached some pictures of my 'Koda Bear" doggie!

Love the pic in the bed!!! I think someone needs a bigger bed!!! How cute!

[Ellie May]

It will never happen even if every person that breeds used ony standard sized dogs. Life is way too unpredictable to always get the 4-7 pound pups.

I can see why people want the bigger pups, just like me not wanting a very small pup. I prefer the avg sized yorkie. I might be able to handle a three pounder...maybe and a 9 or 10 pounder would be ok. If I was purchasing and charting I'd avoid pups that were likely to get very large. Just a personal preference. We have a 17 pound dog and I think yorkies should be smaller. I like my dainty girl. The other pup is a big, crazy man and he accidentaly inflicts pain often. Being small is part of what makes the breed, imo.

[cmclien]

When we got our yorkie she was about 10 weeks and 3lbs. The vet even said she wouldn't be bigger than about 7lbs but here she is, 14.4lbs. Her parents were both smaller than standard at 5 and 6lbs. She has nice upright ears and a gorgeous coat when I grow it. My daughter picked the breed and I never really gave size a thought but I walk her 1 to 1.5miles a day and she loves to play fetch and she's very sturdy. Now that I accidentally have a larger girl I would probably look for that in the future again so I hope they don't disappear

[ironmike86]

IMO if you breed you should try to stick the the standard. Not change them. If you want a bigger dog get a bigger dog. I'm not saying bigger Yorkies are bad. If you have one good. But trying to make them bigger is going backwards in there Breeding if you are keeping standard. JMO

[Teegy]

No idea. Tufty is small but his mum was a big girl, I was hoping he would be too, love him loads. There is a terrific breeder north of Toronto called Rigair. They have solid healthy sturdy dogs a few friends of mine have their dogs and they are from 7-15 pounds

[lynzy420]

I personally thing this thread is wrought with misinformation...rather; I think its more your opinion, mostly your opinion. Not all standard dogs are wrought with the things you say...usually these things occur in poorly bred dogs. I have a friend who has 5 very small pup chis, poodle and maltese...I have friends with Yorkies that have never had a problem. It is because of people who breed without healthtesting and byb's , puppymills that multiple lines show are "infected" with these abnormalities. A larger Yorkie or a tiny Yorkie it well bred lines can and do happen, but are rearer than what your alluding too.

Additionally, I have a smaller Yorkie from a well bred line, this dog is healthier than my 7 and now 12lb. Yorkies, he is not only healthy but he is sturdy and sound...so I fail to see the conclusion you have come to.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by ironmike86

IMO if you breed you should try to stick the the standard. Not change them. If you want a bigger dog get a bigger dog. I'm not saying bigger Yorkies are bad. If you have one good. But trying to make them bigger is going backwards in there Breeding if you are keeping standard. JMO

exactly...the breed standard is 7ish lbs. and below, I mean I don't see people running around trying to get bigger Chis...so why are you trying to get bigger Yorkies, the reasoning just doesn't stand up.

Again, let me reiterate, large and tiny dogs can come from even the best lines, but the best lines and breeders with sound programs will produce these tiny or large Yorkies with little to no health problems.

Many of the people here found their way to YT on a quest to help their ailing pup that's why there are so many here...like myself, many, many, many of us are those who got our dogs from very poor breeding lines..bad breeder, puppymills etc....

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by txyorkies

I searched for Sissy for over 2 years. Although I would like for her to have 1 more litter, I hope I can avoid it for at least a year. Regardless, there will only be one more for her. I strive to keep my labs at only 1 litter per year also, but there's been a couple of oops, too late. I dislike being considered a breeder, but I do have really great dogs, and I personally feel every female dog should be allowed to have one litter if possible, so yes, I am officially a breeder @ 2 litters per year lol. As for why I think females should be allowed to have a litter, there's probably research out there, but as for my feelings & observations, they just become better dogs. Imo, I think they are more sensitive, intuitive, protective and are more gentle with smaller things, especially children. As for my dream of show & win ... well, I guess I'll put my hopes back into my labs. Again, thanks for all the feedback; it's wonderful ... I need to find the donation button as this site is well worth it.

I don't think having a litter makes a dog a better dog and if every female had a litter we would have even more dogs being killed everyday!

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

exactly...the breed standard is 7ish lbs. and below, I mean I don't see people running around trying to get bigger Chis...so why are you trying to get bigger Yorkies, the reasoning just doesn't stand up.

Again, let me reiterate, large and tiny dogs can come from even the best lines, but the best lines and breeders with sound programs will produce these tiny or large Yorkies with little to no health problems.

Many of the people here found their way to YT on a quest to help their ailing pup that's why there are so many here...like myself, many, many, many of us are those who got our dogs from very poor breeding lines..bad breeder, puppymills etc....

Because a yorkies attitude and personality are one of a kind and when there are people who have COPD like my grandma or other breathing and allergy issues a yorkie is the best choice. I think Yorkies should be like poodles and we should have at least two sizes. I would absolutely buy and love to find a reputable good breeder who breeders a little bit larger yorkies. With Callie being bigger if I got another yorkie my addition would have to be around the same size because Callie likes to play and I would hate to be worried about a new addition getting hurt but my only option would be to adopt one (not that I wouldn't do that any way) and I would love the option of getting one from a great breeder. I am not saying anything over 20 pounds. My yorkies is 16 to 17 pounds and she sits and curls up on my chest with no problem.