Need to Change Science Diet

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by Princess keke

I see they have different ones which one do you use?

He has been on Open Sky for about 5 months and is doing great! No itches, no hot spots, no watery eyes! Perfect heathly boy!

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by gracielove

Brothers Complete also has a grain free that does not use white potatoes.
Brothers Complete Grain Free Dog Food | Review and Rating

Peanut was on this food!! He did horrible!!

[ladyjane]

My pups who do not need special diets are on Science Diet Ideal Balance and they are all fine! No messy eyes and no issues.
There is a grain free Ideal Balance, but honestly I tried it and did not see any real reason to continue it and went back to the regular one.
Here is a link for information about this food:

Ideal Balanceâ„¢ Adult Chicken & Brown Rice Dinner - Dry

[ladyjane]

Let me also add that discharge from eyes is not always food. There are many reasons for it! Might want to speak with your vet for some input.

[gracielove]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Peanut was on this food!! He did horrible!!

I read about it and tried it when I was trying to get Gracie to eat kibble. She hated it just like she hated every other kibble! It does have a better ingredient list than some but she just refuses kibble. I have her on Stella & Chewy's frozen raw food and she loves it.

[lorismith]

Hi all - this is Lori and I work for Hill's. Just want to jump in and ask Princess keke if Honey has seen the vet about her eyes watering. I checked with our Veterinary Consultation Service about the eye watering condition and there is no research to suggest food causes eye tearing. On the other hand, itching can be a sign of an allergy related to food.

It sounds like grain free food is the preferred choice for these little ones. Has anyone tried Ideal Balance Grain Free food? It’s new from Hill’s and may be a good option for you.

[keithgs1]

Personally I would stay away from by- products, corn and always use a grain free. The first ingredient should be meat or a meat meal. I recommend trying Nature's Logic. It is a 5 out of 5 star food, listed by the dog food advisor web site. I use it with some of their raw products. My 3 Yorkies are doing great! You will also notice these 5 star foods have higher K calories. They may be more expensive but you use less when feeding time comes. In the long run you save.

[gracielove]

Many of us have done our own research with dog foods and have found that switching from a grain based food does help with various issues. A food that has only "meat" listed as it's first ingredient with three grains following is basically a gran based food. "Meat" is about 80% fluid. After the meat has gone through the high temperature extrusion process there is very little meat value left. Companies that will not state what kind of meat or what parts of the animal are used could very well be using by products and low value body parts. Low value protein is a source of digestive problems as well as other health related issues.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by lorismith

Hi all - this is Lori and I work for Hill's. Just want to jump in and ask Princess keke if Honey has seen the vet about her eyes watering. I checked with our Veterinary Consultation Service about the eye watering condition and there is no research to suggest food causes eye tearing. On the other hand, itching can be a sign of an allergy related to food.

It sounds like grain free food is the preferred choice for these little ones. Has anyone tried Ideal Balance Grain Free food? It’s new from Hill’s and may be a good option for you.

It's a hard sell on this forum. If you note above, I posted a link to Ideal Balance and also suggested the grain free one. I usually advise people to do consults with vet nutritionists, but many seem to think the dentist that runs the Food Advisor page knows more about animal nutrition. I use Hill's and always suggest it, but know that few on here who have their minds made up will listen. I don't give up though because there are many more who might listen and actually do good research.

I agree about the eyes and did also say that. Go to a vet is my answer to that one. I have had many dogs on Hill's and have never had the eye issues I hear about on this forum that people claim are from food.

[gracielove]

There are many ways to research how dog food is made besides the Dog Food Advisor. If you are convinced that feeding your dog grain and synthetic vitamins is best for your dog then surely go for it. But if people have educated themselves about the pet food industry and decided to go in another direction than don't insult their intelligence. Nutrition is not rocket science. Any intelligent person can learn about animal nutrition.

There are many details about the pet food industry that are kept out of the public eye and people do well to educate them selves about the truth. "Meat" is hardly a sufficent description of the protein source that is put into many bags of kibble. Perhaps Hills would like to describe where their "meat" is sourced. Like what is this meat? What animals are used and where are they obtained? What parts of the animals are used when obtaining this mysterious meat?

[Princess keke]

Originally Posted by lorismith

Hi all - this is Lori and I work for Hill's. Just want to jump in and ask Princess keke if Honey has seen the vet about her eyes watering. I checked with our Veterinary Consultation Service about the eye watering condition and there is no research to suggest food causes eye tearing. On the other hand, itching can be a sign of an allergy related to food.

It sounds like grain free food is the preferred choice for these little ones. Has anyone tried Ideal Balance Grain Free food? It’s new from Hill’s and may be a good option for you.

We did see the vet and he said he believes it is an allergy because she also has been itching alot. He gave me an allergy pill but he also told me to stop giving her anther things like green beans, cheese, and other stuff for now just so we will know thats not whats causing it. He also told me to try and put her on a grain free food because most yorkies he has seen has has had the problem solved when changing to a grain fee food. Idk

[RileyDC]

Originally Posted by Princess keke

I see they have different ones which one do you use?

Riley eats Canine Caviar abd has never been better. We started with Wild Ocean for 3-months and then Open Sky for 3-months and just started the Wilderness last week.

[Princess keke]

Originally Posted by RileyDC

Riley eats Canine Caviar abd has never been better. We started with Wild Ocean for 3-months and then Open Sky for 3-months and just started the Wilderness last week.

Why do you change it every 3months?

[RileyDC]

Originally Posted by Princess keke

I see they have different ones which one do you use?

Originally Posted by Princess keke

Why do you change it every 3months?

I like switching it up because Once I make sure he does fine on all of them I will switch it up every few days... I would hate to eat the same thing everg day...

And I myself Totally believe in a rotation diet.


This is something from Champion Foods that explains it a little better than I could...

Reduced food intolerances: Many food related intolerances develop over time because people often feed their cats and dogs the same food, day after day. Feeding a rotation diet reduces the risk of your pet developing intolerances, because they are not fed a single protein source long enough to become sensitive to it.

Enthusiasm for meals: Feeding a rotational diet ensures mealtime is even more exciting!

Balance: A Biologically Appropriate diet is rich and diverse in essential proteins and fats. Rotating your formula offers your dog or cat even more diversity-- keeping your cherished pet happy, healthy and strong.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by gracielove

There are many ways to research how dog food is made besides the Dog Food Advisor. If you are convinced that feeding your dog grain and synthetic vitamins is best for your dog then surely go for it. But if people have educated themselves about the pet food industry and decided to go in another direction than don't insult their intelligence. Nutrition is not rocket science. Any intelligent person can learn about animal nutrition.

There are many details about the pet food industry that are kept out of the public eye and people do well to educate them selves about the truth. "Meat" is hardly a sufficent description of the protein source that is put into many bags of kibble. Perhaps Hills would like to describe where their "meat" is sourced. Like what is this meat? What animals are used and where are they obtained? What parts of the animals are used when obtaining this mysterious meat?

I am not going to go line for line on your post. I don't profess to be an expert in animal nutrition and that is why I do consults with who I consider to be experts in the field. .... board certified vet nutritionists. Everyone is free to feed their pups whatever they want. I don't trash ANY food and am not going to sit and defend the food I feed when people make statements like the ones you just made. Talk about condescending.