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Hmbundy 10-09-2012 01:56 PM
Help: 9 wk old puppy with REALLY SHORT hair?
 
I'm going to go look at a reduced price yorkie that appears to have thick, but SHORT hair? Do you think he'll grow out like a normal yorkie? I highly doubt it's not full bred as his siblings are posted on the same site. They have much longer hair that appears fluffy. I've had a yorkie before so it seems odd. Below I've attached a link with a few photos, please tell me if you think his hair is normal. It appears to be silky, just maybe very slow growing? Has anyone else seen this? Pics would be greatly appreciated :)

http://patspups.com/ (you will have to scroll to page 4 to see him and compare to his siblings. I'm new to this, hopefully the link worked)

marcie 10-09-2012 04:23 PM
I don't have any suggestions but perhaps other members can help.

barkleylove 10-09-2012 04:54 PM
Red Flags....Their site says they are APR registered not AKC and they are priced really low.
I'm thinking commercial breeder but I'm far from an expert.

Hmbundy 10-09-2012 05:09 PM
I dont think a $500 yorkie is cheap. My last yorkie was $400 and I thought he was perfect. I'm not looking for a show dog, just a cute one that's hopefully no larger than 6 lbs with a great personality. If this dogs only flaw is really slow growing hair than I think he's more than worth the $250 they're asking for...I will further research about APR registery. I think all the other puppies look pretty legit though.

Samuelsmommie 10-09-2012 05:09 PM
I would be a little worried about buying a Yorkie from a breeder that cross breeds. Unless your not looking for a pure bred Yorkie. But they advertise Yorkies and morkies this alone would make me pass them up. Not to mention the very low costs, would have me worried about if I'm getting a healthy baby or not. But that's just my opinion and maybe someone else can shine more light on the situation.

Also welcome to YT!

concretegurl 10-09-2012 05:56 PM
I don't trust that registry.

That's a heck of a lot if puppies for one breeder, seems more like a broker site to me.

Diet, and grooming supplies make a world of difference in coat condition too.

Hmbundy 10-09-2012 06:02 PM
I just want to point out that I have done my own research on apr and akc registered dogs to form my own opinion about it. Therefore, I want no further opinions based on the registration, and please none about the breed. Ill determine that when I go see the dog. If anyone can now post based on my initial thread question, I would appreciate it, thanks

Lovetodream88 10-09-2012 06:26 PM
Please do not get a puppy that is younger then 12 weeks. Yorkies need to stay with there mothers until 12 weeks and please make sure that genetic testing was done on the parents of a pup. There is no way to tell the weight of a puppy until it is fully grown. Also people who have that many puppies can not put the attention to each littler of puppies like a good breeder can. The puppy does look like a mix and the only trustable registry is the AKC. I would also make sure to get a health guarantee. Also good breeders do not breed mixes because a reputable breeder breeds to better the breed and morkie is not a breed.

Lovetodream88 10-09-2012 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031268)
I dont think a $500 yorkie is cheap. My last yorkie was $400 and I thought he was perfect. I'm not looking for a show dog, just a cute one that's hopefully no larger than 6 lbs with a great personality. If this dogs only flaw is really slow growing hair than I think he's more than worth the $250 they're asking for...I will further research about APR registery. I think all the other puppies look pretty legit though.
A healthy pup should be at the top of your want list and in order to make sure you are more likely to get a healthy pup I would listen to people on the board about a reputable breeder.

Hmbundy 10-09-2012 06:38 PM
As I just mentioned, PLEASE no more posts that are NOT directly related to my initial thread question. I DO NOT CARE about concerns dealing with its registry OR it's breed. I am not looking for a PERFECT puppy that is champion AKC registered, I care about the question I asked about the puppy's short hair. Not everyone can afford THE PERFECT PUPPY that costs $1000. Im not stupid, I'm going to look at the dogs soon and will come prepared with questions. I thought this site was intended to help yorkie owners, not torment them. I'm starting to regret signing up...

McheleM 10-09-2012 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031308)
As I just mentioned, PLEASE no more posts that are NOT directly related to my initial thread question. I DO NOT CARE about concerns dealing with its registry OR it's breed. I am not looking for a PERFECT puppy that is champion AKC registered, I care about the question I asked about the puppy's short hair. Not everyone can afford THE PERFECT PUPPY that costs $1000. Im not stupid, I'm going to look at the dogs soon and will come prepared with questions. I thought this site was intended to help yorkie owners, not torment them. I'm starting to regret signing up...
If you didn't want anyone to comment then why did you post? If you've truly done your research on CKC, ACA, APRI and AKC then you would know that people would comment. And in your post you said you would research further, then an hour later said you had researched?? I hope you did more than an hour of research.

And just so you know, I have a friend who has a coffee table registered with the APRI as a great dane. They will let anyone register anything.

$500.00 for a purebred, registered Yorkie is CHEAP. You're going to get what you pay for. You yourself said something doesn't seem right about the hair, so why risk your money, the puppy's health and a heartache??
A puppy doesn't have to be perfect to be AKC registered. But breeders will hide behind APRI, CKC and ACA because the AKC wont accept their inbred, cross bred and genetically imperfect dogs.

Lovetodream88 10-09-2012 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031308)
As I just mentioned, PLEASE no more posts that are NOT directly related to my initial thread question. I DO NOT CARE about concerns dealing with its registry OR it's breed. I am not looking for a PERFECT puppy that is champion AKC registered, I care about the question I asked about the puppy's short hair. Not everyone can afford THE PERFECT PUPPY that costs $1000. Im not stupid, I'm going to look at the dogs soon and will come prepared with questions. I thought this site was intended to help yorkie owners, not torment them. I'm starting to regret signing up...
We are trying to educate you and that is what this site is for. We don't want you supporting a bad breeder and we want you to get a healthy pup. If you can not afford a healthy pup from a good breeder how can you afford the health care when you might be getting a pup that could be sick or have genetic issue that can cost you thousands of dollars? Or how will you be able to afford regular vet care, meds, emergency vet care and any other things this pup would need? No pup is perfect but they should be healthy.

Hmbundy 10-09-2012 06:57 PM
Uhhhh I DID WANT PPL TO COMMENT OR I WOULDN'T HAVE POSTED.

It sounds like the same person keeps commenting. I KNOW THE RISKS, I'm not stupid. Thanks for the concern, but just cuz it's not AKC registered doesn't mean a thing. It's solely based on the integrity of the breeder. I know all the risks. This dog will either be yorkie or morkie. How bout pretend the dog is full bred yorkie AKC registered, read my initial post over again, and then answer about his fur. Cuz that's the question I wanted answered.

Hmbundy 10-09-2012 06:59 PM
ALSO MIGHT I ADD THAT I HAVE PURCHASED A $400 yorkie that was AKC registered....duh

Verbena 10-09-2012 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031190)
I'm going to go look at a reduced price yorkie that appears to have thick, but SHORT hair? Do you think he'll grow out like a normal yorkie? I highly doubt it's not full bred as his siblings are posted on the same site. They have much longer hair that appears fluffy. I've had a yorkie before so it seems odd. Below I've attached a link with a few photos, please tell me if you think his hair is normal. It appears to be silky, just maybe very slow growing? Has anyone else seen this? Pics would be greatly appreciated :)

http://patspups.com/ (you will have to scroll to page 4 to see him and compare to his siblings. I'm new to this, hopefully the link worked)
Here you talk about breed. . Yorkie breed. . .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031294)
I just want to point out that I have done my own research on apr and akc registered dogs to form my own opinion about it. Therefore, I want no further opinions based on the registration, and please none about the breed. Ill determine that when I go see the dog. If anyone can now post based on my initial thread question, I would appreciate it, thanks

I just want to say in here you said you don't want to talk about breed. They are answering your question. It maybe not the way you want but they are answering. Basically if you want a purebred yorkie, and guaranteed purebred the AKC is the only one that you can have that guaranteed. With the others you registries don't get that. And since it might be a mix breed there is not way of knowing what mix it is and what length hair it will be. From the way the puppy looks. I personally think it is a mix breed.

Lovetodream88 10-09-2012 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031320)
Uhhhh I DID WANT PPL TO COMMENT OR I WOULDN'T HAVE POSTED.

It sounds like the same person keeps commenting. I KNOW THE RISKS, I'm not stupid. Thanks for the concern, but just cuz it's not AKC registered doesn't mean a thing. It's solely based on the integrity of the breeder. I know all the risks. This dog will either be yorkie or morkie. How bout pretend the dog is full bred yorkie AKC registered, read my initial post over again, and then answer about his fur. Cuz that's the question I wanted answered.
Hiding your head in the sand is not the way to handle things. The hair like that if a pure yorkie (breed does matter in coat type) either means there is a health problem or he is younger then the others and came from a different litter.

Lovetodream88 10-09-2012 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031322)
ALSO MIGHT I ADD THAT I HAVE PURCHASED A $400 yorkie that was AKC registered....duh
Did the parents have genetic testing done? Did the pup go home at or after 12 weeks? Do you still have the dog? How is the health and how has the health been?

Verbena 10-09-2012 07:11 PM
Please don't be mean or condescending. People are here that are from all types from getting puppies from puppy mills that have had major and extremely costly issues to breeders. They share their experiences to make sure that we don't go through the cost (sometimes with the cost being the pups life) and pain and sadness that they have gone through. I appreciate all these men and women here. I have learned so much. I respect them.

You should treat people how you want to be treated !

Lil Sis 10-09-2012 07:25 PM
To be honest...there is something I don't think is right about the site. You said the last pup for 250.00? To me he looks younger...I just don't know.

I would be very sure it was not a broker ...puppy mill...the puppies may not be related and that is why the one looks different.

There are many beautiful happy healthy puppies that are a reasonable price..they may or not be akc. The most important to a breeder that has integrity ..maybe ask your vet? My little one is not of show quality but to me she is priceless and the most important is she is healthy.

I wish you luck

mimimomo 10-09-2012 07:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031190)
I'm going to go look at a reduced price yorkie that appears to have thick, but SHORT hair? Do you think he'll grow out like a normal yorkie? I highly doubt it's not full bred as his siblings are posted on the same site. They have much longer hair that appears fluffy. I've had a yorkie before so it seems odd. Below I've attached a link with a few photos, please tell me if you think his hair is normal. It appears to be silky, just maybe very slow growing? Has anyone else seen this? Pics would be greatly appreciated :)

http://patspups.com/ (you will have to scroll to page 4 to see him and compare to his siblings. I'm new to this, hopefully the link worked)
To answer your question, he looks like he will have silky hair. Not sure if it's the type that will grow long, but it's def not cottony. It can also become wiry or course, depending on his genetics & if he's pure bred or not. When you go see him, make sure you see his parents, that's the best way to tell what he'll look like when he's older. I doubt they're actually on site tho, as I'm afraid this is not your typical back yard breeder but something far worse. One thing I find VERY STRANGE about this website you posted is that all the pups have different birthdays. Only 1 pup per date, except 'Teddy & Tara', 6 different litters!:eek:

AJBoogie 10-09-2012 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031308)
As I just mentioned, PLEASE no more posts that are NOT directly related to my initial thread question. I DO NOT CARE about concerns dealing with its registry OR it's breed. I am not looking for a PERFECT puppy that is champion AKC registered, I care about the question I asked about the puppy's short hair. Not everyone can afford THE PERFECT PUPPY that costs $1000. Im not stupid, I'm going to look at the dogs soon and will come prepared with questions. I thought this site was intended to help yorkie owners, not torment them. I'm starting to regret signing up...
Don't mind all of hateful posts, some of us arent as judgemental. The best thing to do is go meet the puppy in person, and see if he is a good fit for you, get him checked out by a vet. Good Luck!

Lovetodream88 10-09-2012 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AJBoogie (Post 4031348)
Don't mind all of hateful posts, some of us arent as judgemental. The best thing to do is go meet the puppy in person, and see if he is a good fit for you, get him checked out by a vet. Good Luck!
Could you please quote which posts where hateful don't remember seeing any.

lillymae 10-09-2012 07:51 PM
:wavey:Welcome to YT ! To be honest, I think it's not pure yorkie so I can't even begin to comment on the coat length. The color doesn't look rite to me BUT it could just be the pic, BUT the other 2 pics appear to have normal coloring so IDK. I would like to educate you further though, if you don't mind. If at all possible Please dig deep about a health contract & ask lots of questions as to past pup's health as there are some things yorkies are prone to these days, due to bad & mix breeding . Some of these things are AAI, Chiari, Liver shunt & LP. You may already know about these things but if not then Please do some research on them & educate yourself further as some are life threatening without prompt & proper treatment the pup will die. Also get familiar with the latest vaccine protocol as many vets & BYB's still over vaccinate pups & this can lead to GME & other autoimmune illnesses that are very expensive to treat & also life threatening. With that said, I wish you much luck in your search for your new little family member & look forward to seeing your new baby whatever it may be.:)

Lovetodream88 10-09-2012 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AJBoogie (Post 4031355)
I'm not here for a debate...but if the shoe fits....
Well didn't you think by saying something nasty you where going to get that? If you didn't want arguing you would not have said what you said. I will never understand why people are against other people educating people about getting a healthy puppy. The only way to stop bad breeders and by puppy mills is to educate people.

Lovetodream88 10-09-2012 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AJBoogie (Post 4031362)
I'm sorry, I don't recall saying anything negative to you or about you or anything you have posted. I reread my post and i also don't see anything nasty. Infact, I was being encouraging to the poster who obviously felt attacked. Maybe you feel some guilt about your posts, You know the saying "a hit dog will howl"....
No guilt here but I will stand up for other members as well who have done nothing. You called posts on this thread hateful and the people who posted judgmental and if that's not nasty maybe I need to rethink the definition that I know for nasty.

AJBoogie 10-09-2012 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4031363)
No guilt here but I will stand up for other members as well who have done nothing. You called posts on this thread hateful and the people who posted judgmental and if that's not nasty maybe I need to rethink the definition that I know for nasty.
If that's how you feel...im sorry, and have no control over that. I see that the OP found some of the replies (none specific) to be condescending, and I can definitely agree with that. I understand some people where raised with more respect than others, but there is a fine line between educating, and being a bully.

Lovetodream88 10-09-2012 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AJBoogie (Post 4031365)
If that's how you feel...im sorry, and have no control over that. I see that the OP found some of the replies (none specific) to be condescending, and I can definitely agree with that. I understand some people where raised with more respect than others, but there is a fine line between educating, and being a bully.
No one here was being a bully.

dawn27 10-09-2012 08:13 PM
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From my own experience with breeding and viewing Yorkie pups when looking for three of my four, they are not all alike. Hair, face, ears, mussel, coat texture, length and size of the pup are all different. All of my pups that I breed were smooth coat for lack of a better word and they all grew long silky coats. It can take up to two years for them to grow out but it will.

If this is truly a full blooded Yorkie and not a mix I agree that he will most likely have a silky coat and not a cotton coat which if much fuller. The length of the coat can not be determined. It comes down to how it is cared for and what products are used.

Below is Tinker Bell, a pup from one of my litters at 16 weeks. Slowly starting to grow her longer coat.

concretegurl 10-09-2012 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hmbundy (Post 4031294)
I just want to point out that I have done my own research on apr and akc registered dogs to form my own opinion about it. Therefore, I want no further opinions based on the registration, and please none about the breed. Ill determine that when I go see the dog. If anyone can now post based on my initial thread question, I would appreciate it, thanks
Please review YT rules and guidelines.

chachi 10-10-2012 02:38 AM
Anybody has the right to post whatever they choose. You cant pick or choose what they post. The pups coat looks like silk thats why its so thin


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