Cute and it looks like a Yorkie to me. I think all Yorkie pups have short hair. But since they have Morkies - make sure it's not a blended dog if you don't want one.

Please educate me AJBoogie, on exactly WHO and WHICH posts YOU are calling "HATEFUL" and "JUDGEMENTAL"....I have re-read the posts and I am sorry but I am not able to find even ONE that I would consider "hateful" or "judgemental". I think we would all appreciate YOUR invaluable input and definition of EXACTLY what qualifies as "hateful" and "judgemental"....obviously, most of the responders were very carefully trying to politely educate the poster about questionable registeries, back yard breeders, puppy mills, and brokers, along with the concerns about purchasing cheap/underpriced Yorkies, and yet, YOU have called these rather demure attempts to inform the poster of concerns they are well aware of, as "hateful" and "judgemental". I want to see exactly what you consider hateful and judgemental.....please, YOU educate us! After all, some of us have only been doing this for 30-40 years, and have seen all the pitfalls....have lived thru the pitfalls.....and to have their honest and very politically correct responses catagorized as hateful and judgemental, is rather perplexing. Is it NOW that, anything said, that anyone does not agree with, now defined by some, as hateful or judgemental?????.......Please, enlighten us....

I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot poll. The dog's look very poorly bred.

If you didn't want any opinions why the heck did you post??? Sheez!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=AJBoogie;4031489]OK, Once again


HMM it's a chill pill kinda day !!

OP....I think your question has been answered a couple of times in the above posts. You can use the information that was given to you on this thread by experienced yorkie owners and breeders or you can ignore it. The choice is yours. If I were you, I would heed the warning about this breeder. The puppy may only cost you $250 but you could end up spending thousands in vet bills if this puppy is not healthy or has genetic issues. As one poster said, you get what you pay for. Good luck to you.

[QUOTE=AJBoogie;4031489]OK,

Now I remember you. You came on and caused a BIG STINK before and sent several members horrible PM's. And now your back again after a little delay. OH My !!!

[quote=TxVicki;4031496]Glad you know...I don't take kindly to people talking rudely...

No, I will not pm....I have nothing to hide from anyone here, and carry out my conversations in front of everyone...... I asked for YOUR definition of what is hateful and judgemental...didnt get that from you...just throwing more "great big words" around...."condescending, respectfulness, dignity, rudeness"....Did not ask you to educate me on definitions of those words.....clearly, you are blinded by your anger.......I asked you to educate me on what YOU found hateful and judgemental, as you were so quick to call some or all of the post that had been offered up to that point....Oh well, you were not able to do that....by the way, I did NOT deliver any message, kind or otherwise, TO THE POSTER!!! You blew out a fuse trying to insult me and fortunately, you missed your point. I SIMPLY asked for you to point out the threads YOU found hateful and judgemental...of course, you could not do that, because they do not exist on this thread, to this poster. ....you are accusing me of being all you accused others of being and you have absolutely NOTHING THAT I HAD WRITTEN, TO BASE YOUR UNFOUNDED "HATEFUL, RUDE, DISRESPECTFUL" remarks you threw at me, on! In conclusion, for my final circus act, I would add, puppy mills do NOT exist because knowledgable people "can not get their point across" to people that are not interested in listening. They exist because uninformed people continue to look for and purchase puppies from them. Educated, well meaning people can only share experiences and knowledge with people that are not aware of red flags and danger signs when they crawl over them to get to a cheap puppy. "You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink".

Hmbundy - our members are free to respond how they like, whether the answer is what you were hoping for or not, okay? Please refrain from telling other members how they may respond. We have people here who've seen more/heard more than they'd like to in regard to yorkies - and therefore, they're here to share some of the reasons why it can be incredibly important to be careful about from whom you buy a living, breathing puppy. If some members go to the site which *you* posted and they see some red flags - I sure hope they'd post concerns if it were me in your shoes! They're here to try and help you...they're taking time out of their day to post in your thread. Why not be grateful they care enough to post, and maintain an open mind about what's being said? You asked for feedback, and they're giving it.

You will get your pup from whomever you want -- but I will say this: she claims to be a 'small breeder' -- look at ALL those birth dates of pups. That is *not* a small breeder. Which is a concern bc if she is breeding indiscriminately, you have *no* idea what you could be signing up for healthwise. And believe me, I know about this firsthand, with my first yorkie Wylie.


So you're criticizing folks for being judgmental in the same sentence where you're actually being judgmental? Members are welcome to share their opinions here, this is a forum; I've read every post in this thread and no one has been hateful. I would advise you to back off from the kinds of comments you're making toward members today. Instead, if you have helpful advise to offer...feel free to give it. If you want to discuss other members' feedback on this thread, then you need to take a different route in doing so.

Can you honestly say that some of these posts/reply's aren't condescending and uninviting to new visitors to this site?? And be honest....

Since you have a bias towards certain people. You can feel free to ban me...It won't hurt my feelings.

You will have a long wait if you think I'm going to debate you any further about the negativity on this thread ;).

I do like honesty though - so since you're asking me to be honest, my honest hope is that you set an example for yourself as to how you think you should communicate in a way to ALL members that is *not* rude, name calling, confrontational, and condescending. No one is really going to listen to you when you accuse them of doing the exact same things you're doing. If you think better communication is needed, then communicate better *yourself*, even when you're ticked off.

If you have any further comments about this, PM Admin directly. Please allow this topic to continue on the actual topic. Thanks.

So anyway, let's get back to the topic of trying to help the OP with their questions. :)

@AJ Boogie:

Response on Coat - 9.5wk old puppy depicted has a "lot" of coat for 9.5 wks old. Of course the pics are not that "clear". It looks like a "soft" coat from the pics. Unlikely to grow to the desired silk coat.

I also concur with the cautions posted earlier about this breeder's site. Too many puppies with varying birthdates, cross breeds, disreputable registry, no health warranty posted, etc.

I'm still in my learning phase, as I'm "old" enough to know that your never to old to learn. So here's my question, wouldn't it be hard to know how a puppy's coat will grow out etc if your not sure about the actual "breed" of the puppy?

:D:D might as well play rock,scissors, paper. And coat is the least of one's worries.

This place IS A PUPPY MILL....Please reconsider purchasing from a known puppy mill...PLEASE

Here is some important information you should read regarding this piece of crap breeder...
Sierra Fish and Pet is a Puppy Mill Front: Join Our Blog

There are many reputable breeders here and elsewhere! Good Luck!

:D thank you! I agree. I was just making sure my thinking was correct.

When I see puppies priced at $250-$300ish I always wonder "what's wrong with him/her".

Maybe it's just me, but I just went back and looked at the site posted to try and be objective about the coats, but again I wonder what's wrong with the little guy that he's priced so low and others aren't? Is it just because of his coat:confused:?

You can choose to purchase from this person if you want but someone with that many pups has to be a puppy broker and puppy brokers dont know anything about the dog lines and if their is health problems in those lines so a cheap yorkie may cost you alot of money in vet bills. I quess its a risk only you can decide if you want to take

Loaded Commerce - Pages

Here is there puppy farm/puppy mill...these people are degerates and are established puppy millers...

I have no kind words here...please tag what you will for future puppy owners and YT members....

OP we are a community of Yorkie/dog lovers, we do care where they come from and safe to say none of us condone puppy mills and the tragic lives of the pups being held in awful conditions for the sake of manufacturing puppies for unsuspecting animal lovers.

Many of us have watched our pups suffer because of the breeding of places like this, some of us have lost pets because of these people...ALL of us who have been through this wish to goodness we had found YT before we fell prey to their disgusting business'....YOU have, by joining Yorkietalk, been given a wealth of knowledge and experience that many of us did not have...if you choose to purchase your pup you are taking a huge gamble with falling in love with a pup who may give you years of heartache or even die. It is a fact that few puppymill dogs don't have "issues"...furthermore, by knowingly purchasing a pup from a place like this you are perpetuating the tragedy of puppymills, surely you don't want to do that?

I understand that you don't have alot of cash...but save up and purchase a pup from a reputable breeder, in the long run you will save a fortune and yourself alot of heartache....

Koedam Kennels is Patspups.com...please, please, please...don't do it....

You gotta love the ones who say I want advice and then scream and cry about the advice people give them because its not what they wanted to hear....


OP: By all means, that puppy is going to grow out a gorgeous silky show coat, is going to be a small 5-6 pound pup and will never have a health problem in it's entire life. That price is a steal and you should rush right over and snatch that puppy up before someone else gets him and you miss out!!


There, is that what you wanted? Rainbows and sunshine and for us to blow smoke up your butt??? (and THAT is sarcasm and condescension and I'm not afraid to admit it)

One other thing, as to the original question, as far as the hair of this pup...because it is a puppymill pup there are so many possiblities as to what the pup will eventually look like (never mind physical aspects)...I have seen black dogs turn white upon maturity, fluffy dogs fine, fine dogs fluffy...it really is almost impossible at that too young of an age to be adopted, tell what the fur will eventually be like....or even the coloring..

Thank you! I don't mind people pointing out the dogs birthdays an stuff like they but don't just go out and say its a PUPPY MILL when you've never visited the place, just bc it's not AKC registered. And you never know, she's an older lady that may be horrible at keeping her website updated. I may get there and she'll tell me there's morkies listed as yorkie on the site, and she may differentiate them...all I hear is mostly judgements, no wisdom

This breeder is a puppy miller, they have no integrity, compassion, or scruples of any kind...

I don't understand why you don't want to hear the truth..I would think you would be like "OMG thank goodness I found Yorkietalk and learned all this" Surely you are a Yorkie lover and want the best?

I just read all the posts....:eek::eek::eek:

Yorkiemom1, I'm sorry you were insulted but you were very well spoken on the facts, Gemy your wonderful, Lovestodream great info as always, TxVicki, Chachi and all the rest;;;you guys are wonderful!!! banned person: you really are something; OP I'm not sure of your real intentions, I sincerely hope that if your really a Yorkie lover you consider all the information you have been given; McheleM you got it wrong: Rainbows out the arse is the correct phrase....lolololol!!!!

Ann can I please have the magicwand for just one day?!!!! lol

p.s. I will shut up now...and OP please, please do the right thing...no matter what though we will be here for you regardless of your decision, thats just how we roll.....its all about the pups!!!!

Thank you do much for this post! That is exactly the kind of answer I was looking for. Your baby is cute :) has she ever had a hair cut? Did she have really short hair like this when she was little?

Sick to my stomach... Just viewed that site...

Please read my posts and click on my links...this is just some of the stuff I found on them THEY ARE FACTUALLY A PUPPY MILL...KOEDAM KENNELS...their dogs are kept in cages on the property, google maps will show you, and they have a history, if you would like I could provide more information.

Honestly, we really are trying to help you make a good decision, that is why we are all here, please please step back and consider that all of us here just might know more than you do...I only wish I had found YT before I purchased a pet from a Pet Store, as a matter of fact, my Miss Mini could have come from there as Koedams=Patspups.com supply Hunte Corporation...please, please, do yourself a favor and get a healthy pup from a good breeder. Pats health guarantee is that of a puppybrokers, you will have no recourse...

Me too and I'm actually very upset that they weren't on my radar before...everytime I turn around theres another I never heard of....these folks are the worst of the worst...I'm literally in tears hoping the OP HEARS us...I know we can't make anyone do anything but.....for her sake I hope she listens...gosh when will these puppy mills be stopped? when...