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06-27-2012, 10:59 AM | #46 | |
Izzy's Momma Too! Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stuart, Florida
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So true and sad. The shelters and rescues are chock full of sick dogs that the owners had to give up due to finances. Or they have behavior issues that the average pet owner isn't equipped to deal with, at least not without the help of a trainer which can get expensive. Until the public stops buying these dogs, and starts supporting ethical breeders or adopting from rescues/shelters, the mills will keep on cranking out puppies, the parents treated like baby making machines, the mill owners using innocent animals to make money The shelters and rescues will continue to be overflowing and overly burdened with shortfalls in their budgets. OP, I sincerely hope that you will reconsider your purchase, but if not, wanted to wish you luck and I really hope that the puppy you end up with is healthy as can be
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06-27-2012, 01:24 PM | #47 |
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| It will take legislation to close down these places. As long as they are breeding dogs there will be people to buy them. They need to be made illegal with stiff penalties for breaking the law. Until that time it's like spitting in the wind.
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06-27-2012, 06:38 PM | #49 | |
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It is also true that we can preach until we are blue in the face but people will still choose to buy from these places because they either don't understand or they just don't care. Either way thousands of innocent animals are dying in the most horrid of conditions so that the general public can have that cute little puppy that was taken from it's filthy caged mom that will never see the light of day. | |
06-27-2012, 07:35 PM | #50 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Summertown, TN
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| When I was checking where to get my puppy from, it boggled my mind how so many of the sweet doggies are being used as an assembly line so to speak. They are treated as if they are a piece of machinary whose sole purpose is to manufacture a product (puppies). That is so a sad life for any dog. My neighbor breeds Bull Mastiffs. She has one male and one female. The are loved and treated like kings. The mother is only allowed to mate or conceive once every couple of years. She tells me that even though the money can be good, she does it so others can enjoy the breed. I know this to be true b/c I have seen her give the puppies to people that she knows will cherish them. She handled, cuddled, and loved each puppy. She even went as far to wipe their little tushies when the mother had her first litter and wasn't sure what to do. She has only allowed 2 litters in the past 5 years and then she got her fixed b/c even though the puppy is young, she knows that with age comes more complications. I say this to say, that I first thought that finding a baby that coame from a sweet, loving home, and not used as an incubator would be impossible. There are people who love their full blood dogs and breed safely in order to allow others to enjoy the breed. So don't give up hope. Do research. Get a baby that was born into love.
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06-27-2012, 08:07 PM | #51 |
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| I thought puppy mills were illegal. You should log into humanesociety.org Im pretty sure they will check it out and make sure the dogs are in great condition. If not, they will be fined and WILL take all their dogs/puppies and put them at a rescue center. Google Puppy mills and get informed. |
06-27-2012, 11:13 PM | #52 |
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| They are not illegal the inhume treatment and lack of medical care and proper general care thwy fail to provide is considered abuse as it should be...but they have to be caught...by authorities. It is sickening but not illegal to cage ignore rarily feed water or interact with a dog nut breed it continually for profit. Its not ollegal to breed geneticallu sick dog s either its not illegal to breed undersized dogs its not illegal to follow the pathetic usda regulations...doesn't make it humane or ethical though either.
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06-28-2012, 12:29 AM | #53 |
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| Puppy mills are not illegal. Some states have passed some watered down legislation against them but there has been little done to effectively stop what they are doing. Occasionally a puppy mill will go out of business or get shut down and the humane society can go in and get the dogs out of the filthy conditions but for every one that does go out of business there are many more still operating. |
06-28-2012, 02:34 PM | #54 |
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| so sad. They should be illegal! |
06-28-2012, 03:27 PM | #55 |
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| Buster and Maggie came from a broker, who more than likely got them from a puppy mill. I know of other people who purchased dogs from the same broker. Some were sick or had issues, some were not. Don't purchase from a puppy mill if you know in advance that's where your puppy is coming from. Don't put more money into their pocket, don't contribute to the horrible conditions those precious creatures live in. I know better now, wish I had known better back then. You know the puppy you are about to purchase is coming from a mill, don't do it.
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06-28-2012, 04:38 PM | #56 |
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| I say go and see other Yorkies from other breeders. That's the only way to get a real understanding of the advice given. When we are young, we are impulsive, it's life, that's how it is but if you see more than just hers you will notice the differences in well bred and not. Look at pictures here then at others. When the puppy looks a bit sad or sickly....it usually is. Google or YouTube Yorkies the same age as the one you are looking at. I do it every week to see what my new girl should look like and act like. 5 weeks Yorkie, 8 weeks, Yorkie vwatch the videos. Every word said here is only to help. You don't want someone to just agree with you when they have information you can use. Good luck on your search.
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06-28-2012, 09:45 PM | #57 |
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| Perhaps we should link the OP with the Tanesha Breton/Mia thread. You know the AAi pup who is an AAI pup bc of her "breeder"? This is what happens when bybs and greeders take lives into their hands.
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06-29-2012, 02:43 AM | #58 |
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| Since the OP has not responded lately I am assuming that she probably went ahead and got the pup. People want what they want when they want it. It seems that many people feel they are not accountable for their actions. They get their puppy and feel if they happen to get a puppy that appears healthy then so what? They feel no responsibility for the other dogs that they are helping to remain in filth and suffering. I have noticed quite a few here on YT that feel that way. Others I am sure feel the same way but do not state their opinions. I realize that many here have gotten their dogs from BYB's and puppy mills and probably feel as though we are insulting them and their dogs by speaking against these places. One lady said she is not a puppy snob and that all dogs deserve to be loved no matter where they come from. Talk about missing the point all together! Someone else says that there are not enough well bred dogs to meet the demand. From what I have seen of the many Yorkies that make it into a rescue most of those buyers should never have purchased their dogs to begin with. They did not want the dog when it got too big or they had to surrender it because they could not afford the high vet bills for their genetically damaged pup. I am not a puppy snob either. I feel all dogs should be given the right to live in a loving home but there are not enough of them to meet the "demand." Stop the suffering. Don't buy from pet stores, brokers, puppy mills or backyard breeders! |
06-29-2012, 09:17 AM | #59 |
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| I'm sure this has already been suggested but, contact your local ASPCA! They can help or facilitate in shutting down the place! That way, instead of saving 1 pup, you save them all.
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06-29-2012, 11:49 AM | #60 |
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