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Charlies Mamma · 06-16-2012, 04:34 PM

Hi all,

Charlie had surgery on Monday 6/11 remove 3 stones 2 from the bladder 1 from his urethra, he is home and doing ok but he is so tired still. He is on pain med that he is now only taking once a day and he is taking prednisone and an antibiotic as well.

How long should I expect him to be so tired. he has small burst of energy like he wants to play but they are few and far between. and I DO realize he has had surgery but just so I know what to expect. It is so hard to see him like this he is always wanting to run and jump and play Im just not used to it.

I call my vet everyday with questions they are very good to answer and tell me I am not a bother (when I know I am

) but I just want to make sure i know everything I can. its not like Charlie can say "hey mom my belly hurts" and he doesnt "show" pain so I guess I worry if he is laying around is it because he is in pain??? or just tired....

Ugh sorry just has to let some of this out.

kjc · 06-16-2012, 05:56 PM

Maybe the pain meds are knocking him out... keeping him tired. It can take more than a few days to recover... depends too on how well he handles the anesthesia. Is he eating and drinking and going potty okay? If not, I'd have the vet look at him to make sure he's okay...

Charlies Mamma · 06-16-2012, 06:37 PM

No he is eating and drinking fine and no trouble going potty. the pain med he is on is Tramadol it is a 50 MG tablet that he gets 1/4 tablet 2 times daily (if needed) he has only been taking it once a day for the last 2 days tho, I have given it at nite so he can rest comfortably.

Im sure youre right that he is just tired and the pain med plays into it but I just worry so much. This whole ordeal has been something else, very scarey.

kjc · 06-16-2012, 06:47 PM

It's good that he has been quiet so soon after his surgery... most times they get too active and are at risk of hurting themselves....

yorkieusa · 06-16-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlies Mamma

No he is eating and drinking fine and no trouble going potty. the pain med he is on is Tramadol it is a 50 MG tablet that he gets 1/4 tablet 2 times daily (if needed) he has only been taking it once a day for the last 2 days tho, I have given it at nite so he can rest comfortably.

Im sure youre right that he is just tired and the pain med plays into it but I just worry so much. This whole ordeal has been something else, very scarey.

The tramadol is what is making him sleepy and tired. That's a good thing though, because he will still have pain and he doesn't need to be running around yet either. I'm betting he will feel much better once he stops taking the tramadol. Surgery takes a lot out of these little one's and it takes them time to recover.

Charlies Mamma · 06-17-2012, 07:16 AM

Charlie only has one more dosing of the tramadol. he has been on it for a week, His stitches wont come out until the 25th, Do you think I need to get more tramadol? He doesnt really "show" pain I certainly dont want him to be hurting tho.

kjc · 06-17-2012, 07:33 AM

I'd wait and see how he does... it won't hurt now for him to be a little more active, he may have to learn that he doesn't hurt as much too. Also, this far out from the surgery, he should be healed enough for very light activity. Coming off the pain meds will help you to be sure he's doing okay.

Did your vet write out discharge instructions for him? These will tell you what to expect after surgery and how soon to start giving him some freedom. If not, I'd call the vet to make sure.... they are responsible for his aftercare too.

Charlies Mamma · 06-17-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kjc

I'd wait and see how he does... it won't hurt now for him to be a little more active, he may have to learn that he doesn't hurt as much too. Also, this far out from the surgery, he should be healed enough for very light activity. Coming off the pain meds will help you to be sure he's doing okay.

Did your vet write out discharge instructions for him? These will tell you what to expect after surgery and how soon to start giving him some freedom. If not, I'd call the vet to make sure.... they are responsible for his aftercare too.

Yes they gave me aftercare instructions and things to watch for. it says Moderate activity after 7 days is ok, He has been very good to not try jumping from high places until today. Out bed sits about 3 ft high and I removed his step so that he couldn't get up there and jump off from the top but I went out this morning and he jumped up on the bed. now this was 3 feet he jumped he wanted to be by hubby I never imagined he could jump up that high without his crate to jump on first. I will have to keep the door closed for now I guess... its just to risky.

Hes gone all day today without the pain med and seems to be doing ok. still just sleeping for the most part. he did not eat his chicken this morning but did eat some eggs.

gracielove · 06-17-2012, 12:51 PM

Sounds like the little guy is not going to let this get him down. It is so difficult to gauge the pain level of our pets. They just don't react the same way as humans do. I hope he continues to improve for you. If he made that jump onto the bed he must be feeling at least some what better!

mscat · 06-17-2012, 02:08 PM

Sounds like he is doing well, especially after jumping on the bed, That is one of my big concerns after Suzi comes home from her spay and dental , how to keep her calm and not jumping on my sons bed, I'll have to keep her out of the room . If your dog is not seeminly in pain, wimpering or shaking, then he is probably ok without it. But if he shows any signs of discomfort I woud call the vet.

Charlies Mamma · 06-17-2012, 03:56 PM

Yes he does seem to be doing well. Has anyone had a baby with these bladder stones? we have to wait about a month for the results to come back as to what type they are...future treatment/prevention will be determined by that.

yorkietalkjilly · 06-17-2012, 04:03 PM

His body is still healing & recuperating plus meds are probably adding to his lethargy. Some dogs just don't seem very active unless they are 100%. It's still under one week & he still may be swollen & inflamed inside, still healing. I hope he begins to perk up going into his second week post-op & is soon back to his old self.

Charlies Mamma · 06-21-2012, 03:14 PM

Ok so Charlies results came back for the type of stones that were in his bladder, they were uric stones. Now the vet says these are stones found primarily in dalmatians and since Charlie is NOT a dalmatian we will be doing a blood test to check him for a liver shunt

The vet says that if he does have a liver shunt, it can be treated with meds and diet that surgery may not be needed but if it was needed, I was told that University of Missouri Columbia is where I should go. So I called them today to see how much it may cost if Charlie needed surgery.
MAN O MAN

If he has a shunt and it is extra-hepatic (easily seen on the outside of the liver) it will be between $2800-$3200 if it would be intra-hepatic (not seen and inside the liver somewhere) it is $3000-$5000 I thought I was going to fall over.

My only solace is that the Dr I talked to at Columbia said that it is VERY rare that a 5 yr old yorkie would have a liver shunt.

So saturday, I will take him to have this blood test done he has to fast for 12-14 hours and then they will draw blood he will be fed a fatty meal (a whole other issue with the pancreatitis) and then they will draw more blood to check levels. the turn around is 3-5 days

I am very stressed about this I have no idea how I would come up with that kind of money for a surgery. I just emptied savings for the bladder surgery Please pray Charlie does not have the liver shunt.

gracielove · 06-21-2012, 03:59 PM

It sure was not an encouraging report. Has he always eaten well without bouts of vomiting and diarrhea? Has his weight always been good? There are various forms of liver shunt. I mean the degree of deformity can be any where from small to large.
Thankfully I have never had to deal with stones. I'm sure there will be someone that has some knowledge about them. There may be something in the library.

Charlies Mamma · 06-21-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gracielove

It sure was not an encouraging report. Has he always eaten well without bouts of vomiting and diarrhea? Has his weight always been good? There are various forms of liver shunt. I mean the degree of deformity can be any where from small to large.
Thankfully I have never had to deal with stones. I'm sure there will be someone that has some knowledge about them. There may be something in the library.

Actually no he has had problems eating and with diarrhea due to the pancreatitis he was dx with that last year. I almost lost him then. he can only eat boiled chicken turkey.. things with no fat, I have to be very careful with treats dry food etc only vet approved things for the most part. The columbia Dr said that he could have small shunts in the liver that may not need surgery but I guess I have to start with the blood test and go from there.

06-16-2012, 04:34 PM	#1
Charlies Mamma Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: With CharlieBrown of course! Posts: 1,403	Post Surgery Behavior Hi all, Charlie had surgery on Monday 6/11 remove 3 stones 2 from the bladder 1 from his urethra, he is home and doing ok but he is so tired still. He is on pain med that he is now only taking once a day and he is taking prednisone and an antibiotic as well. How long should I expect him to be so tired. he has small burst of energy like he wants to play but they are few and far between. and I DO realize he has had surgery but just so I know what to expect. It is so hard to see him like this he is always wanting to run and jump and play Im just not used to it. I call my vet everyday with questions they are very good to answer and tell me I am not a bother (when I know I am ) but I just want to make sure i know everything I can. its not like Charlie can say "hey mom my belly hurts" and he doesnt "show" pain so I guess I worry if he is laying around is it because he is in pain??? or just tired.... Ugh sorry just has to let some of this out. __________________ Mom to Bug and Charlie-R.I.P my sweet Charlie 2021

06-16-2012, 05:56 PM	#2
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	Maybe the pain meds are knocking him out... keeping him tired. It can take more than a few days to recover... depends too on how well he handles the anesthesia. Is he eating and drinking and going potty okay? If not, I'd have the vet look at him to make sure he's okay... __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

06-16-2012, 06:37 PM	#3
Charlies Mamma Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: With CharlieBrown of course! Posts: 1,403	No he is eating and drinking fine and no trouble going potty. the pain med he is on is Tramadol it is a 50 MG tablet that he gets 1/4 tablet 2 times daily (if needed) he has only been taking it once a day for the last 2 days tho, I have given it at nite so he can rest comfortably. Im sure youre right that he is just tired and the pain med plays into it but I just worry so much. This whole ordeal has been something else, very scarey. __________________ Mom to Bug and Charlie-R.I.P my sweet Charlie 2021

06-16-2012, 06:47 PM	#4
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	It's good that he has been quiet so soon after his surgery... most times they get too active and are at risk of hurting themselves.... __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

06-17-2012, 07:16 AM	#6
Charlies Mamma Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: With CharlieBrown of course! Posts: 1,403	Charlie only has one more dosing of the tramadol. he has been on it for a week, His stitches wont come out until the 25th, Do you think I need to get more tramadol? He doesnt really "show" pain I certainly dont want him to be hurting tho. __________________ Mom to Bug and Charlie-R.I.P my sweet Charlie 2021

06-17-2012, 07:33 AM	#7
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	I'd wait and see how he does... it won't hurt now for him to be a little more active, he may have to learn that he doesn't hurt as much too. Also, this far out from the surgery, he should be healed enough for very light activity. Coming off the pain meds will help you to be sure he's doing okay. Did your vet write out discharge instructions for him? These will tell you what to expect after surgery and how soon to start giving him some freedom. If not, I'd call the vet to make sure.... they are responsible for his aftercare too. __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

06-17-2012, 12:51 PM	#9
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	Sounds like the little guy is not going to let this get him down. It is so difficult to gauge the pain level of our pets. They just don't react the same way as humans do. I hope he continues to improve for you. If he made that jump onto the bed he must be feeling at least some what better!

06-17-2012, 02:08 PM	#10
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	Sounds like he is doing well, especially after jumping on the bed, That is one of my big concerns after Suzi comes home from her spay and dental , how to keep her calm and not jumping on my sons bed, I'll have to keep her out of the room . If your dog is not seeminly in pain, wimpering or shaking, then he is probably ok without it. But if he shows any signs of discomfort I woud call the vet. __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich."

06-17-2012, 03:56 PM	#11
Charlies Mamma Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: With CharlieBrown of course! Posts: 1,403	Yes he does seem to be doing well. Has anyone had a baby with these bladder stones? we have to wait about a month for the results to come back as to what type they are...future treatment/prevention will be determined by that. __________________ Mom to Bug and Charlie-R.I.P my sweet Charlie 2021

06-17-2012, 04:03 PM	#12
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	His body is still healing & recuperating plus meds are probably adding to his lethargy. Some dogs just don't seem very active unless they are 100%. It's still under one week & he still may be swollen & inflamed inside, still healing. I hope he begins to perk up going into his second week post-op & is soon back to his old self. __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

06-21-2012, 03:14 PM	#13
Charlies Mamma Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: With CharlieBrown of course! Posts: 1,403	Stones results are in :( Ok so Charlies results came back for the type of stones that were in his bladder, they were uric stones. Now the vet says these are stones found primarily in dalmatians and since Charlie is NOT a dalmatian we will be doing a blood test to check him for a liver shunt The vet says that if he does have a liver shunt, it can be treated with meds and diet that surgery may not be needed but if it was needed, I was told that University of Missouri Columbia is where I should go. So I called them today to see how much it may cost if Charlie needed surgery. MAN O MAN If he has a shunt and it is extra-hepatic (easily seen on the outside of the liver) it will be between $2800-$3200 if it would be intra-hepatic (not seen and inside the liver somewhere) it is $3000-$5000 I thought I was going to fall over. My only solace is that the Dr I talked to at Columbia said that it is VERY rare that a 5 yr old yorkie would have a liver shunt. So saturday, I will take him to have this blood test done he has to fast for 12-14 hours and then they will draw blood he will be fed a fatty meal (a whole other issue with the pancreatitis) and then they will draw more blood to check levels. the turn around is 3-5 days I am very stressed about this I have no idea how I would come up with that kind of money for a surgery. I just emptied savings for the bladder surgery Please pray Charlie does not have the liver shunt. __________________ Mom to Bug and Charlie-R.I.P my sweet Charlie 2021

06-21-2012, 03:59 PM	#14
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	It sure was not an encouraging report. Has he always eaten well without bouts of vomiting and diarrhea? Has his weight always been good? There are various forms of liver shunt. I mean the degree of deformity can be any where from small to large. Thankfully I have never had to deal with stones. I'm sure there will be someone that has some knowledge about them. There may be something in the library.