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Old 05-13-2012, 12:50 AM   #16
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If she too small to mate shes too small to mate just Because shes done it Before isnt a good reason to do it again. What if you just got lucky last time and there werent complications. Just spay her and enjoy her as a pet rather than a money making machine
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:45 AM   #17
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Oh and they wont be able to be register AKC that is another good reason not to breed
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Old 05-13-2012, 02:15 AM   #18
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First you live in the Phillipines, I'm not sure what your country's dog registry rules are. But if you wanted to register any puppies with AKC, those puppies could only be registered if they are purebred. And the AKC would need to recognize your country's kennel club, and the purebred parents of those puppies need to be registered with your country's kennel club. That information can be found on www.akc.org No reputable registry will recognize a cross bred dog, for conformation showing. That is two dogs of different breeds bred together.
A google search for dog registry in your country has yielded the following:AKCUPI » Articles It looks like relatively recently it got FCI accreditation.

In terms of health issues in female dogs being avoided if they have been bred, I'd like to point out that your personal observations are by the very fact they are personal quite limited in scope. For more objective observations go to the research that has been done.

The parent club for the Yorkshire Terrier in the United States, does NOT recommend breeding of any female under five pounds. Go to www.ytca.org

I understand that different countries might have different ethical practices; and as such I think you would have a clearer and more informed answer, if you asked your questions with you country's National Yorkshire Terrier Club; and or go to your country' s National registry.
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How much does your female weigh? How old is she? How much does the male weigh? From your last post it sounds like you have a lot of dogs. How many are currently in your home? You must be very busy! It sounds like so much work.
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That is my understanding as well. Its a bit of reading(the AKC and YTCA standards), but it sounds like your right from what i have read and have tried to understand. At the least, it was an answer to the question the OP actually asked.


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Was curious as to your intentions. Do you plan to show your dogs?
It is my understanding that you have no desire to sell the puppies. If this is the case, then registering your puppies should be of no concern(seems to be a concern). Registering does not matter at all for your pets. If your were trying to SELL or show your dogs, then this would be a concern. If you are wanting to show your dogs, then a purebred yorkie bred to a parti yorkie would leave you with no dog to show, as far as th AKC is concerned. You would not have a purebreed yorkie, or parti yorkie. That is the way i have understood the current standards. Im no expert of course.
If you want to just have some puppies for your own, then i would take advantage of the wealth of info available in the breeding section. There are a few very experienced breeders here. Im not a breeder so i cannot comment, but it is also my understanding that its dangerous to breed dogs that are very small. Often fatal. Id talk to some of these folks and try and determine if its the right choice for your baby. Might be better off to wait and see of she grows, or perhaps seek a larger dog for breeding if you have only good intentions. Im sure its a bit more difficult to find a good breeder or even a yorkie in the Phillipines, than it is for us in the States. Good luck though, and hope you meet some breeders here that can help. Just keep thick skin... there are some very experienced people here. Consider the advice people offer and discuss these things with your vet.
In the end...do whats best for your little girl. I'm sure you love her and would never do anything that would put her life in danger.
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Well, yeah.. that's the other thing I forgot to clarify. We don't plan to sell the puppies if ever. Apart for my concern that she might develop tumors or other medical conditions that has something to do with her uterus, womb, mamary glands etc. when she grows old, the other factor is of sentimental reason... wanting continue her lineage if at all possible. Naturally, I wouldnt consider mating her if her vet didn't agree. At the same time, I still havent really decided on going through with it.
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Thank you for the advices. I do believe I need to have a thick skin if Im to continue to be part of this group coz I was kinda "shocked" to read such strong opinions despite the fact that I did ask for opinions in the first place. I likewise understand that all that passionate reactions comes from the same love we all feel for our own Yorkies.
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Thank you for the advices. I do believe I need to have a thick skin if Im to continue to be part of this group coz I was kinda "shocked" to read such strong opinions despite the fact that I did ask for opinions in the first place. I likewise understand that all that passionate reactions comes from the same love we all feel for our own Yorkies.
I think that you need to spay your Yorkie and enjoy her as a pet. If she has already had one litter then your fears of her having reproductive issues later in life are finished and you will further reduce those chances by a large percentage once you have her spayed. What does she weigh?

BTW, it does sound like you have quite a large pack of dogs in your home. I'm curious why you chose a user name of PackOf1.
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How much does your female weigh? How old is she? How much does the male weigh? From your last post it sounds like you have a lot of dogs. How many are currently in your home? You must be very busy! It sounds like so much work.

Mollyeet's 4 years old now and the Beiwer's 1 year old or a few months short... Im not sure... Currently we have 7 shi tzu-poodle mix, their mom and 3 yorkies. Initially, the 7 Shiddles, as we prefer to call them, were a handful but after a while they've all calmed down. Now, the only time there's a frenzy is during meal time. The're all inside the house, they're not allowed on the furnitures (except occassionally for my yorkies), and thank god they never really got into chewing stuff.
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Thank you for the advices. I do believe I need to have a thick skin if Im to continue to be part of this group coz I was kinda "shocked" to read such strong opinions despite the fact that I did ask for opinions in the first place. I likewise understand that all that passionate reactions comes from the same love we all feel for our own Yorkies.
If you want to be a breeder you are definitely need tlo be thick skinned. Also to be on a forum I agree you need to too
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:38 AM   #25
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Thank you for the replies. I appreciate all of them. I did however forgot to write that we've always had dogs and puppies for as long as I can remember so its not like Im not familiar with what goes on when a our female dog goes on heat, gets mated, give birth and everything after that. We don't sell the puppies coz my sister feels very attached to them so there are times when we'd have 4-6 puppies at one time. Ofcourse, so that our house would not be over run with dogs and so we could give them proper attention we don't allow the females to be mated all the time. We've always had small dogs. Like before, we had chiuaua-terrier mix dogs, when they came to age and one by one passed away, we were given a Pom-Spitz mix. We had a few of them for a while and when they also came to age, we were given a female s**tzu-poodle mix who gave brith to 7 puppies, all healthy, mature dogs now and still living with us.

Mollyeet has given birth to one puppy two years ago. We've discussed with Mollyeet's vet the possibility of her getting pregnant again and he agrees. In all these years of having multiple female dogs who dont get pregnant, we have also witnessed the health issues that they also go through when they grow old and it usually involves their reproductive system. So far, and this is just based on my personal observation, our female dogs who had puppies a couple of times did not have those health issues in their ripe old age.

I was concern about the possible size of the puppies in relations to the sire's size and if I understood it right.. its has no actual bearing? My 2nd concern is the Yorkshire Terrier- Biewer Yorksire Terrier combination if it will be "frowned" upon and under that catergory can I register the puppies IF Mollyeet do get pregnant.

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Well first off they probably have reproductive problems because you didn't spay them. A female spayed before there first heat keeps them from getting certain cancers and then spaying them at any time lowers there risks of other cancers. If your dog is under 5 pounds she should not be breed period whether you did it before or not and that will be frowned upon more then anything because that would be you being reckless and risking your dogs life.
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Thank you for the advices. I do believe I need to have a thick skin if Im to continue to be part of this group coz I was kinda "shocked" to read such strong opinions despite the fact that I did ask for opinions in the first place. I likewise understand that all that passionate reactions comes from the same love we all feel for our own Yorkies.
Or just do what is right...........
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I think that you need to spay your Yorkie and enjoy her as a pet. If she has already had one litter then your fears of her having reproductive issues later in life are finished and you will further reduce those chances by a large percentage once you have her spayed. What does she weigh?

BTW, it does sound like you have quite a large pack of dogs in your home. I'm curious why you chose a user name of PackOf1.
Actually, the reason my user name's PackOf1 is bec. when I joined this group, of the pack, I actually just own one, Mojo. a yorkshire terrier. My sister's the owner of the rest. Since then we acquired 2 more yorkies, Mollie and Mollyeet and although both are technically my sister's, Molie and Mollyeet gravitates towards me.. they follow me around, sits with me, come running when I call. I've actually considered changing my user name to PackOf3 haha.
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:53 AM   #28
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Well breeding a biewerto a yorkie is not frowned upon by one biewer club however others it is because they are trying to establish the bieweras a separate breed. It is frowned on also by the yorkie community
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Packof1 I don't think the people here mean to sound harsh, sometimes it is hard to read someones tone when it is written. Everyone here has such a passion for these little babies, and want whats is best for all of them. You really will find alot of great advice and alot of great friends here!! Welcome to YT!
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Eleven dogs inside the house! Wow! You ARE a busy lady! I too love the little breeds, but I'm afraid to have too many because of the cost of all the vet care. Your little Mollyeet is adorable. Based on her photo, I am guessing she is well under 5 pounds. My Mia is around 3 pounds, and Mollyeet looks to be about the same size. The male you choose to breed her with could be the runt from his litter. Even though he is small, his genes could throw larger puppies. If a pup gets stuck being born, little Mollyeet's life could quickly become endangered. She would need a c-section that would require $2,000.-$3,000. surgery. Tiny Yorkies can crash medically very quickly. Their needs and care are much different than any other small breed of dog. My Lucy was a breeder dog. She now has mammary cancer, and I'm not going to have her much longer. It's so sad. Dogs spayed early and not bred are usually free from the risk of certain cancers. Your girl is getting up there to the end of her breeding years. Older dogs have more problems delivering. Please, please read and research everything you can before deciding to breed this tiny baby. Hugs to you and all your fur babies!
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