I just don't get it??

[Laura118]

Why do people sell non pedigree yorkies for double the price of a pedigree yorkie because they are extra small, and be so proud that the dad is 1 kilo and the mum is 1 1/2 kilos.
Would you seriously buy a particular yorkie because you knew it was going to be very small.

[trish2753]

Lots of people do as you know, me personally wouldn't go too small as they are very fragile when they are small, Susie is 3.5 kilo so not the smallest but she shivers in not really cold weather and gets too hot in not too hot weather.
Susie's parents were not as small as she is.

[Yorkiemom1]

Actually, all puppies have a "pedigree"...that is it's "family tree"...are you referring to "registered" and "non registered" Yorkies? There are hundreds of people out there that jump at the chance to buy a tiny, tiny dog. Most of the time, they have absaolutely no idea what they are getting into, or they just dont care, or they have enough money to "fix" any "issues" that may arise. To answer the last question about price.....unscrupulous breeders TRY to get the tiny little puppies when they breed, because it is "understood" those tiny babies are "special" and thery bring a bigger price...like a perfect pink diamond will cost more than a perfect white diamond, all things being equal....for them, simply the law of supply and demand. However, when you have a litter of babies, and one is so very tiny and struggling so hard to live, that baby consumes 90% more of the breeders time and energy, just to get that baby to survive. More vet visits, constant care and handling and tube feedings every 2 hours AROUND THE CLOCK, (I actually carry these tiny little babies in my bra, because they need the warmth, they need the touch, they need to hear breath and heartbeat, they need the stimulation) ....this is actually a valid reason why these babies to sell for more than the "normal" ones...the additional burden, (financial, emotional, and labor intensive tasks), this one baby has on a breeder, who can not just cull the baby, or allow it to die just because it is tiny, is what generates the higher price in those babies. We seldom break even on those little darlings....thank God, these runts are few and far between, at least for me.

[Laura118]

Yes sorry I did mean registered and non registered.
This person has bred 2 tiny un registered dogs on purpose to make extra tiny pups and is charging £900 each

[KazzyK810]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Actually, all puppies have a "pedigree"...that is it's "family tree"...are you referring to "registered" and "non registered" Yorkies?

Pedigree - the recorded purity of breed of an individual or strain.

Perhaps it's a difference in definition due to Country of useage. My Nan raised yorkies in England for over 30 years and she always referred to her purebred yorkies as as "pedigreed." While American's like to think what goes for them goes for the rest of the world....that's not always the case.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Laura118

Yes sorry I did mean registered and non registered.
This person has bred 2 tiny un registered dogs on purpose to make extra tiny pups and is charging £900 each

I just wanted to be sure I understood exactly what you meant! SHAME ON HER FOR DOING THAT!! And the sad thing is, people are out there that are clueless and will jump on the "wonderful opportunity to own a tiny dog that will fit in your pocket".....little do they know......

[Laura118]

It is a shame, if I hadn't done a lot of research and also found this forum, i would have assumed they where the better puppies, as they are over double the price of my kc register puppies.

[gracielove]

We have a mall near by that has a pet store that sells these small "designer" puppies. They take the puppy away from the mom at 5 to 6 weeks of age so it is very small. No one can tell what size that puppy will mature at (should it survive at all) but they tell people that it will be very small. So many of these puppies end up on Craigs List to be re-homed. The people are disappointed when the cute little puppy grows larger than they thought or it is just inconvenient when the cuteness wears off. I can't imagine why anyone buys a puppy of any kind from a pet store.

When I purchased Gracie from a breeder I expected she would mature at about 8 to 9 pounds. Well, she is almost 2 years old and weighs just a bit over 5 pounds. She was so tiny during the first year that I was always trying to protect her from herself. A dog that small is not meant for a busy family. There are just so many ways that they can get hurt. I don't have kids in my home but just under ordinary circumstances a tiny dog is at risk. I have had both Maltese and Shih Tzu dogs but they were not as tiny as Gracie. How could someone sell a dog that they thought would actually be very tiny to who ever has the money? I'm afraid that there are many people wanting to copy the Hollywood trend of carrying a puppy around in a bag as an accessory rather than putting any thought into the health and safety of the animal.

[Lovetodream88]

A lot of people want fashion accessories or just an extremely tiny dog. Its sick and if people stop buying them then a lot of the places selling them would have to shut down.

[chachi]

It is sad when people osess over having the tiniest dog they can get. It is sad for the yorkie that these dogs are produced and used to reproduce more tiny dogs that cant really e a dog without size limitations

[Millies mamma]

I read a post on here not long ago that said if a dog weighing 1 or 2 pounds more than you thought it would will make you not love it than you don't need a dog. That is so true

[Julia Howard]

I second the information concerning the extra care most tinies require. Also,
I dont believe in breeding tinies (any female under 5 lbs.). I have had them in litters and have one now. My 5 lb. female has two small girls. They are one week old today and the tiny weighs 1 1/2 oz. She weighed under an ounce at birth. The bigger sister (ha, ha big girl) weighs 3 1/2 oz. Neither are very big. It really take a lot of care for the tinies when they are born. The biggest nursed right away but baby had to be taught. Until she learns and is strong enough that means feeding Esbilac Goat's Milk from an eyedropper every 2 hours - 24/7. Even then some of them just never take off on their own. They also have to have temperature maintained for them since they are too small to survive with their body heat and Mom's. We have been lucky with this one. She started nursing on her own Tuesday. I have been bringing her to work with me during the day and taking her back home to Mom at night. Now I am able to leave her with Mom and her sibling. I am having the largest one's tail docked tomorrow but will make a special trip next week with Tiny to get hers. I have 3 adults who are tinies because I just never found the right homes for them when they were babies. They are just as active and healthy as my others. I will not place these with families with children. After all the care you give them, they are certainly worth more. If
I dont find the right home for her I will keep her. I am responsible for her being born so I feel that I owe her to take care of her. I know people will argue that they shouldn't cost more, but to them I say, "trying raising one". These usually are placed in homes at older ages too so I get attached and
have to find the right situation for them.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Julia Howard

I second the information concerning the extra care most tinies require. Also,
I dont believe in breeding tinies (any female under 5 lbs.). I have had them in litters and have one now. My 5 lb. female has two small girls. They are one week old today and the tiny weighs 1 1/2 oz. She weighed under an ounce at birth. The bigger sister (ha, ha big girl) weighs 3 1/2 oz. Neither are very big. It really take a lot of care for the tinies when they are born. The biggest nursed right away but baby had to be taught. Until she learns and is strong enough that means feeding Esbilac Goat's Milk from an eyedropper every 2 hours - 24/7. Even then some of them just never take off on their own. They also have to have temperature maintained for them since they are too small to survive with their body heat and Mom's. We have been lucky with this one. She started nursing on her own Tuesday. I have been bringing her to work with me during the day and taking her back home to Mom at night. Now I am able to leave her with Mom and her sibling. I am having the largest one's tail docked tomorrow but will make a special trip next week with Tiny to get hers. I have 3 adults who are tinies because I just never found the right homes for them when they were babies. They are just as active and healthy as my others. I will not place these with families with children. After all the care you give them, they are certainly worth more. If
I dont find the right home for her I will keep her. I am responsible for her being born so I feel that I owe her to take care of her. I know people will argue that they shouldn't cost more, but to them I say, "trying raising one". These usually are placed in homes at older ages too so I get attached and
have to find the right situation for them.

ALL ABSOLUTELY TRUE!! AGREE 110%...I have 3 tiny girls that I will keep, because I absolutely will NOT sell these babies except to the PERFECT home...no children, no pets, experienced Yorkie owner, etc. And even if I stumbled on the PERFECT home, I too, am so attached to "my girls", I think I would be like Carlton Heston....".......FROM MY COLD, DEAD, HANDS....."!!!!!! Julia, I have a formula that I tube feed all my tiny babies, and I have not lost one to "fading puppy syndrome" since I started using this formula....if you would like it, PM me and I will send it to you.

[beachdog]

Paris was "supposed" to be a 7 lb Yorkie but he was nearly 13 lbs of Love!!

[lynzy420]

Breeding for Tiny pups is unethical breeding. I see that there is a claim to not breed for tiny pups, yet *you* continue to breed the bitches that produce tiny pups? The fact that you keep the tinies for their safety does not make it ok, because not all the pups come out tiny does not make it ok. Please spay and/or neuter your "parents." Please stop breeding for Tinies and stop justifying it, please. You are not doing the right thing, IMHO.