I do have a dog actually, she is a 16 year old Shih-Tzu. Surprisingly, she was purchased as a gift for my brother and I from a pet store in NJ and has not had any problems at all, still very active for such an old dog. If I had known the puppy mill information I know now, I would have frowned upon my mother purchasing her from there. I will have to ask my vet about local breeders to see if he recommends any. Seems like a good idea, thanks! :)

I would like to chime in again, this time I have two comments and food for thought.

First, the girl that posted about her dog that she purchased from Set did not follow the rules of the Sick and Injured Forum which are you need to follow up and put closure to your post in that area of YT. So now a year later we are left to question what happened when she said she was following up with further care. IMO, her endorsement is not fully credible because her dog had an issue and now she claims otherwise. So as much as you might not like there were words exchanged it was something that needed to be brought into the open. :)

My second point to you is this; you live on the East coast~NY to be exact. There are so many good breeders that you can deal with in your backyard. Why take a chance of a breeder that is all the way in TX or for that matter out of driving range for your puppy. A contract really is only good if you are able to legally enforce it and I have seen plenty of people not have legal leverage to continue a battle when they had a sick dog. Why chance it, when you can stay within driving distance? A local breeder will want to have satisfied local customers vs someone thousands of miles away. If you were to try to enforce a contract it would be in the state of the dog's purchase and your burden. So I say stick close to home and stay away from having a dog shipped from out of state. :)

I'm so glad that you are researching and learning all that you can regarding a puppy purchase. You would be amazed how many people buy animals on as impulse later having buyers remorse. Keep looking and you will find the best fit for you.

Thank you! I understand it had to be brought into the open, I just feel like the way in which it was done was not necessarily appropriate (I am not one for passive agression). With that being said, I have actually emailed about 10-15 breeders from the East Coast from the YTCA referral list, including HiHopes Yorkies which I am very interested in. This thread was just created because I couldn't find as much information on the SET Yorkies kennel as I could on the other ones I was researching. I am simply doing my research and compiling a list of options before I decide for sure. Thank you all for your concern! :thumbup:

[QUOTE=megansmomma;3861476]I would like to chime in again, this time I have two comments and food for thought.

First, the girl that posted about her dog that she purchased from Set did not follow the rules of the Sick and Injured Forum which are you need to follow up and put closure to your post in that area of YT. So now a year later we are left to question what happened when she said she was following up with further care. IMO, her endorsement is not fully credible because her dog had an issue and now she claims otherwise. So as much as you might not like there were words exchanged it was something that needed to be brought into the open. :)

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First excuse me for not realizing there is procedure and you need to follow up and put closure to you post. Which I think I did. I came on and told everyone what the vet said so there was no questioning what happened. I didnt mention following up with further care, other members said I should or they would if it was them.


Im really sorry we havehad no further issues and do beleive it was an injury. Honeslty I dont care if you think im credible or not I was only giving my opinon on the subject just like you

[quote=shorebound;3861484]The rule is clearly stated at the top of the S and I forum. I'm not sure why you are getting all defensive about this matter. :confused: I was just trying to clear up why others questioned you today...that is all. ;)

Hello, welcome to YT. We live about 12 miles from Manhattan. My daughter wanted a Yorkie and after her research found 2 breeders. One had a 5 1/2 month PUP. We took the 1-2 hour ride. The breeder was a nice lady, clean enviorment, other pups well take care of. We fell in love 30 seconds after holding him. He is 9 months old now. We would never purchase a pup without seeing where he came from. We also paid more than some of the prices mentioned. Well worth it though.

Good luck at look around, you should be able to find a breeder.

Oh really? Where was it?! :)

OMGoodness, I have not purchased a pup from SET but wanted to say how sorry I am that your thread was hijacked by rudeness. I believe the reason ( shorebound ) came on is because I had sent her a PM that most likely alerted her via email & I just want to clarify that to those who think otherwise. Also shorebound has stated that her other dog injured the yorkie's leg/knee so the pup does not have LP. Now let's move on so the OP can get the answers she came here for.:)

Awe thankyou :)

Guess Admin didn't think there was rudeness, except for Shore Bound, who I see has been BANNED.

Wow, looks like something happened last night after I signed off. Everyone is entitles to their opinion and with the developement overnight looks like someone was :banned:. That is not an easy task and further puts her review of the SET Yorkies under suspect~IMO. :rolleyes: You never know how someone will be flushed out and it looks like we have lillymae to thank for this one. :thumbup: If she had not messaged the member (how did she ever know the connection) to give her review the chain of events would have never occurred. ;)

Since most of the YTCA breeders aren't in the "business" of selling dogs, they are breeding to preserve and improve the breed; you might have to get a little more assertive if you want one of the pups. I recommend calling and getting to know about their breeding program and why they became a breeder. Also, establishing a relationship is invaluable, they can help you decide if a Yorkie is indeed the right type of dog at this point in your life and they also can advise you to the care of your dog. Best of luck.

If you are asking how did I ever know a connection, I did not know anything about this thread & had sent her a PM before this thread was ever started about a subject not relative to this thread in any way so I do hope that you are not accusing me of anything here. The way I see it she was not the one who started the rudeness here but simply responded to it. I had Nothing to do with getting anyone banned.;)

All I can say to the above is: what a coincidence and so lucky that she stumbled onto this thread. Amazing how the peaces seem to fall toogether. :thumbup: You were once again so very helpful ;)

Maybe you should stick to talking about something you know something about as this is not one of those things & Admin or any Mod can feel free to check my PM's to put this to rest as the PM has not been deleted and I can show proof, Can You ?
As I said before I do hope you are not accusing me of something here , are you ?

I fully agree......run DO NOT walk as far and as fast away from her as possible.....
copied this from her FB page....

Set YorkiesLumberton, TX Buy, Sell or Trade
Adorable Yorkshire Terriers Available
2 males and 1 female, fully vaccinated, microchipped, and vet checked
15 wks old and ready for thier new homes
All will be less than 5 lbs $350 to $850

JMO though....

Okay back to the OP's question vs a vs Breeders.

One thing that could work, is if you have someone you know that lives nearby to a breeder that you are interested in; they could visit the breeder, and see the sires and dams.

Another I like to ask for is the Breeder's Vet Reference, and do follow-up on that reference. I would ask the vet specific questions on what tests she does on her breeding pairs. For example even though my vet is not qualified to do CERF, Razzle's cerf certification is kept on file with him, as well as OFA certification on hips, Thyroid, etc. I would ask the vet in his opinion do her breeding dams/sire, meet the standard in terms of structure, coat, color, etc. I would ask the vet about the temperament of her dogs. I would ask the vet how long she has been a client, and does she bring in any of her other breeds to him? This is a sneaker quesiton, because if she hasn't disclosed to you all her breeds that she breeds then,......

On the subject of Contracts: it would be of benefit to you the purchaser, prior to signing a contract to run it past your lawyer. You truly do want to understand your rights under this contract.

And on a side note' I'd never accept a pup that has been spayed prematurely. Or agree to a condition that a pup MUST be spayed prior to 12months. There can be some medical conditions that prevent you from fulfilling that part of the contract. And it is up to me and my Vet to determine the most appropriate time for spaying/neutering

I'm not sure where this is all coming :confused: There is no need to acceleration my posts regarding Shorebound by your misunderstanding of my precious posting. If it were not for you informing us of you coincidentally sending her a PM yesterday we would not have even know. On a side note regarding PMs....as far as I have always been led to believe ADMIN and MODS do not moderate or check our PM. They are just that~private. Furthermore, what are you asking for proof of from me? Did I possibly miss something on this thread. As you previously stated, we should get back the what the OP started this thread about, her questions about SET Yorkies and her search of a new puppy. IMO, this needs to be dropped. But if you need further clarification please feel free to PM me. :)

Nicole, I am very sorry that this seems to be some huge misinterpretation on the part of LM. My thoughts regarding what transpired were not meant to provoke this back and forth dialogue and it's my hope it has been sucessfullly address or be taken to PMs if necessary. :)

I do not believe that I misunderstood anything & is why I publicly gave permission for Admin or Mod's to access my PM's;)

Just a note: Many members choose to read threads and not to post, so just bc someone hasn't posted in years doesn't mean they are not 'here'. But I'm sure you all know that.

On that note, what is generally the best time to spay a puppy? I read 6 months, as long as the puppy is over 3lbs. I feel like anytime before that might be too early.

That is exactly why we need to give correct information when it comes to the forum. Many members never post but read daily and have been members for many years, but many people do not realize this goes on. Glad that you can see what I was trying to point out to lillymae and was so misconstrued and misinterpreted on her part. :)

There will be wide opinions on this. My vet spays and neuters at 6 months of age.

It seems like 6 months seems to be common (after reading many threads about this on this forum) so it did seem strange that SET Yorkies spays before they ship (at 15-20 weeks). If you spay/neuter before the hormones have the chance to have effect on the puppies development, it can be an issue.

Yes, in today's world, this seems early to spay. However, it's not always the case. In shelters everywhere in the northeast dogs are spayed very early. My first female yorkie was spayed at 4 months old and my male at 12 weeks old. Nowadays, 6 mos seems to be the norm.

Exactly...I do not like to spay until after the first heat......only because my female Scarlett was spayed at 10 months of age....she never had a first heat...a year later she came into full blown heat..so after she went thru that she had to be re spayed....when they did that he found a small piece of her ovary..just enough to throw her into a heat....he explained to me that had she gone thru a full heat prior the chances of that happening would have been slimmer....Isabella was never spayed as she never had a true heat cycle, just swelling but no spotting, but did have a false pregnancy. Sadly though Isabella was diagnosed with GME at 14 months of age and died at 17 months for the GME.:(
My boys (Shih Tzu's) are neutered at 9 to 10 months of age...and both are still squatters...;)

Personally, I would not like my breeder dictating an age to spay/neuter or doing so prior to purchase at such a young age. The only time that I think this would be remotely acceptable is in a Rescue situation. Even then I know some rescues will either keep the puppy until they are old enough or require proof when they reach an acceptable age. My Doodlebug was a puppy and after a background check I was approved with the condition of neutering with proof. He was neutered right over the 6 months mark when he reached 5 lbs.

Juvenile spaying IS an issue. And at 15-20 wks they are juvenile.

And there will be a widely varying opinions on this. My opinion is outside the norm for this forum, but it is I believe an informed one, and one that honors my belief in giving each pup the chance to mature to their full boney potential:)

I will not spay a dog before the growth plates close and research indicates this is at 12-14mths month' which is probably a safe timeframe for the toy breeds. And actually there is no guesswork involved, one lateral view of the tibial plate done by Xray can tell the vet if that growth plate has closed and if it has then as this is the last growth plate to close all others have.

Do yorkies usually retain teeth? So would I have to get them pulled on one date and then spayed on another? I was hoping to kill two birds with one stone in terms of anesthesia use.