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Old 01-17-2012, 08:27 PM   #1
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Angry Shes not a dog, shes a DEMON

I've been fostering my sisters maltipoo for almost 2 months now, and we're certain my sister wont come back for her. I think I may know why, and I wish she'd have warned me. Koukla is not the sweet loving little dog we raised years ago. She fights and snaps at Lola, will not obey any potty training at all, rips and chews anything she can find, pulls out trash and spreads it everywhere, and the list goes on! She is the perfect BAD DOG. She even has bitten me, my husband, and Lola. I'm trying to work with her, but its not going so well. My husband wants to demand Angela take her back, but thats not a good idea to me. My sister took her and made her into what she is now, why in the world would we give her back? I can barely afford the extra food, and the bad behavior is driving me nuts. My other dogs are so well behaved. I'm just not sure what to do, but the biting is my biggest concern. She bites hard, though she hasn't yet broken the skin. I feel so bad having to lock ALL my dogs into one room now to contain damage that wouldn't happen without Kouk around. Am I a bad person for wanting to get rid of her. I love her but its gotta stop and she wont learn from me.
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Sorry to hear that your your little foster child is acting out. Could it be that there is some underlying issue? Maybe she's not feeling well and that's why she is lashing out? Have you had her to the vet for a work up? I know you said money is tight but maybe an animal behaviorist? I'm no expert these are things that I have seen other people here post when others are in similar situations. Good luck with little Ms. Foster Child.
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:33 PM   #3
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I feel its your sisters fault not the dogs fault I imagine she didn't train her and that's what the dogs needs. It sounds like you may need to consult a professional.
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You did not say how old she is, but sounds like puppy behavior?? It just sounds like she needs to learn how to live in your home. Getting frustrated with her is going to rub off on her.

I love using "time outs" to give pups a message about what is appropriate and what is not. Some people think it does not work, but it does if you do it consistently. Every time she does something that is not appropriate, off to jail .. only a few minutes. And back in if the behavior repeats. They do get the message.

I am a bit concerned about the fact that you said you can barely afford to feed her. Do you really need this responsibility or are you just doing it because you feel so badly for her? You might want to consider a rescue, but if you do, please make sure you check them out thoroughly. You would want someone who would work with her issues.

You are not a bad person...some pups can really be trying. I know as I have taken many in over the years and some have been a bit testy.
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I am also curious how old the dog is??

Honestly, if a dog doesn't fit in your family, it doesn't fit. And there is nothing wrong with that. You are not a bad person! Obviously someone else created this dog into what she is and now you are stuck with having to un-do it.

I will say, exercise exercise exercise. How much of it does she get? I find most dogs that are into chewing, spreading out the trash, etc, just need to be worn out! Of course training as well. A dog doesn't come naturally knowing what to do. So getting into the trash, for example, would be a natural behavior to them. They need to be taught otherwise. In the mean time, keep the trash out of her way, teach her a solid leave it, and exercise her until she's completely worn out!

But, really, you would not be a bad person if you found a home more suitable for her.
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Well Koukla is 6 years old, and I personally bottle fed her. When we had 6 or 7 dogs in our house, she was great. I don't get obviously frustrated with her, and I love her to death, but living in an apartment after all the trauma she's had has made her different. She never did do much for potty training so I was expecting that, but the biting and food aggression is new. I have a feeling that she didn't eat like she should with my sister. My aunt would be happy to take her for me if I potty train her solidly. I doubt my sister will come back for her next month ( She said 3 months and its coming close). She has never called and asked about her once. I can afford the extra food, seeing as all my dogs eat the same food so I just buy the big bag, we just run out a bit quicker and sometimes payday isn't quite close enough, so I just pull bill money or grocery money to buy the food. I can afford it but its trying on my budget. I will try to exercise her more, but I work 10 to 12 hours a day and sometimes I'm to tired to be out playing a lot. Shes a nightmare on the leash though I'm working with her. Lola doesn't even need it I just have her wear one so I can make a quick grab if there's danger afoot.
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I first noticed a little bit off behavior when my mom was dying I kept her at home, and the dogs would all come in for visits in her room to keep her company. Koukla and her big sister Minnie would love on mom the most. Minnie vanished after I left the state, but thats another story and one that makes my blood boil. 2 of my beloved dogs were victims to my sisters incompetence which is why I don't want to give Koukla back at all.
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A rescue may be the way to go
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With a rescue, my sister would freak out if she found out. My luck she would.
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With a rescue, my sister would freak out if she found out. My luck she would.
Not necessarily you could just tell her you rehomed her. The rescue isnt going to contact her if you let them know the situation there would be no reason to
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Not necessarily you could just tell her you rehomed her. The rescue isnt going to contact her if you let them know the situation there would be no reason to
Actually the rescue would not do that if they are reputable. If the sister is the rightful owner, she is the one who should sign her over.
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With a rescue, my sister would freak out if she found out. My luck she would.
Honest to goodness, bless your heart for trying and making an attempt. Because of the safety issue (fighting, biting) with her and your other dogs, I definitely agree with the resuce suggestions.

At this point, your sister should not care, she didn't care enough to train her or even check in on her since she has been away. And you shouldn't care if your sister's feelings are hurt either, sounds like you have been burned more than once by entrusting animals to her. If you are having to juggle finances for food, imagine an illness or accident? She needs a lot of training and one on one time to correct all of her issues, and it's okay to admit you cannot take her on right now.

Find her a good home, and please educate your sister on the consequences of animal negligence, I hope she doesn't get the opportunity to own another dog until she has been trained herself.

Prayers for you and your babies, hope you can make a good decision for your family.
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Can you go on eBay or Amazon and get one of the child safety gate systems the kind that looks like an xpen but they are much cheaper-they look like 6 baby gates in a hexagon.

Put her in it and have her around the other dogs but in there she cannot get to them or you.

At feeding time put the bowls next to each other on opposite sides of the enclosed play area (did that make sense-?) like feed K. inside the pen and your dog on the outside but s they are forced to eat right next to each other but with the gate between.

The biting must stop or be prevented controlled in the immediate.
Since you cannot contact this dog for rescue yourself until either (check local laws) your sister agrees to sign her over or she is considered abandoned you are stuck with her and she will you (bless you for being stuck in this situation period).

Start making mental note at what causes the aggression.

It might be general food aggression which is often based on a behavioral issue caused by neglect or it could be territorial aggression or both.

This is usually fixable-with time and forced safe exposure.

I know many people are oppose dot this methodology but I have personally seen it work and swear by it.

Please update.

This will take time-you are not only training- you are undoing years of bad training.

As far as the rest use the enclosure play yard and when you take her out use a harness and leash-you are in control she will be forced to listen and it will aid in taking her to potty outside as well as keeping out of trashing your house and away from the other dogs.
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If you are gone 10 to 12 hours a day you don't have the time to deal with the issues this dog has. You sister has already made a mess of the animal and should have no claim on her. I don't know what you do with your dogs for 10 to 12 hours a day while you are gone but that is way to long for any dog to be penned up. Koukla needs full time care right now.

A rescue is not the same as giving her to a shelter. A rescue would help to deal with the her issues and make sure she went to just the right home. They don't let just anyone have their animals. That little dog needs someone with lots of experience in dealing with a dog with problems. Do her a favor and contact some rescues and at least talk to them. There is a huge problem with abused and abandoned animals in this country right now. Many rescue organizations are over burdened. If you can find one to take her you should consider it a real blessing to both you and Koukla.
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I agree the dog should be re-homed. No way a dog with this many issues can be helped by someone who is away from home 10-12 hours a day.

Someone need to call Cesar.
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