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nanahas3 · 01-09-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

To the OP, I don't care what food you feed your dog; someone will say something bad about it. I believe it's a good quality food too, and Joey's been on it for 5 years and is thriving. He never vomits or has gas, never has diarrhea, his hair is shinny and his teeth and breath are good. He isn’t itchy and he has no eye tearing, which he did on another food. He has plenty of energy and is at a good weight. I wish my food did all that for me!

By the way, the quote in Brits post actually supports the use of corn in food.

I havent had a chance to read much on here for a bit and have not seen the pictures of Joey for a while I just wanted to say...He is so DARN CUTE Nancy. He has grown into such a beautiful young man

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Nancy1999 · 01-09-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nanahas3

I havent had a chance to read much on here for a bit and have not seen the pictures of Joey for a while I just wanted to say...He is so DARN CUTE Nancy. He has grown into such a beautiful young man

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Oh thanks so much, good to have you back! I only wrote that description as a way of saying, that you can tell a lot by a food by the results you get, and Joey has had great results with it. Not trying to convince anyone else to use it, just showing support for those who already use it. I'm still one of those people who believe, "If it aint broke, don't fix it!"

nanahas3 · 01-09-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Oh thanks so much, good to have you back! I only wrote that description as a way of saying, that you can tell a lot by a food by the results you get, and Joey has had great results with it. Not trying to convince anyone else to use it, just showing support for those who already use it. I'm still one of those people who believe, "If it aint broke, don't fix it!"

I personally agree Laddy has been on it for 3 years and has done great with it.

KazzyK810 · 01-09-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Oh thanks so much, good to have you back! I only wrote that description as a way of saying, that you can tell a lot by a food by the results you get, and Joey has had great results with it. Not trying to convince anyone else to use it, just showing support for those who already use it. I'm still one of those people who believe, "If it aint broke, don't fix it!"

Same here. I see people trash RC, but I then look at ZoE with her sleek coat, no skin issues, no stomach/intestinal issues, clear eyes, great teeth...just one healthy pup...so it must be doing something right.

tinalove · 01-09-2012, 04:09 PM

I don't think corn is a good product for dogs. Does RC have corn in it?

gracielove · 01-09-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bitsy

What do you feed her?

I feed her Stella & Chewy's dog food. She loves it. I had to cook food for her myself until I found this food. It was actually cheaper to cook for her but I like the nutrition available in this food. She has done really well on it.

Taryn0405 · 01-09-2012, 08:29 PM

Every dogs system is different just like a human. Its what your baby tolerats amd thrives on.
What may not work for your dog could work for mine. By the way, I strongly believe that a vet is too concerned with helping dogs health wise then caring about the mere possible 6% kickback they get on rx sales. My vet has recommended rx SD for Gizmo but they also consider and recommend other "higher quality "considered dog food too.

gracielove · 01-10-2012, 05:00 AM

I have worked in the human health care industry for years and I can tell you that human physicians know next to nothing about nutrition. It is barely touched on in medical school. If there is a nutrition question like diabetes the physician will usually send the patient to dietitian or hand them a prepared diet sheet. Illnesses and "health" are approached with a prescription pad.

I believe that vet's are about he same with their knowledge base. They depend on the pet food industry to provide the proper nutrition for their patients. The vet sells the stuff because it is all that is available for their patients. Not a lot of thought put into what the actual contents are. Pet food has had to be manufactured with ingredients that will have long shelf life not what a natural dog diet would be. Synthetic vitamins and other supplements are added to make up for what is missing. The pet may do well on it for a long time or it may not depending on it's system's ability to cope with the ingredients. It's the long term effects that concern me. But no, I don't believe that the vet makes a lot of money on the deal though there is a considerable mark up on everything they sell. They just depend on another industry to do the research and produce the food for pets.

107barney · 01-10-2012, 07:28 AM

It is a regular practice here on the diet boards to dismiss the views of regular vets when it comes to nutrition. I must respectfully disagree that vets know nothing about nutrition. Mine knows quite a bit about it, just as she knows quite a bit about other healthcare topics like neurology, orthopedics, cardiology, internal medicine and dentistry. She is a generalist and that is all I expect of her -- a broad base of knowledge and a good sense of her patients and excellent judgment to know when to refer out for specialty care when needed. I don't think my vet is different than any other general vet in this regard. Some are better at some things than others, and some take special interests in some things while others do not. It is the same for every profession be it medicine, veterinary care, law, and the like.

If one wants specialty care, find a specialist. If one is seeking in depth knowledge that surpasses a generalist, find a specialist. This is true in nutrition as well. It's easy to find a veterinary nutritionist, just check out www.acvn.org It really does beat complaining over what your general vet doesn't know.

Teegy · 01-10-2012, 10:27 AM

I truly think it depends on the vet you have, I believe mine to be very knowledgable as far as surgeries etc, he's crap at nutrition, and doesn't think dogs should even be eating meat????
I even scolded someone on the street for the manner in which they were addressing and approaching their dog a few weeks ago to find out he was a vet. So him and my vet don't know anything about behaviour either. I think it's great to have breeders, friends and Yorkie yakkers that we are able to bounce things off. I appreciate all your input greatly

MorkieMomma · 01-10-2012, 10:39 AM

We feed our dogs grain-free Orijen, which some say is too high in Protein, some say quite the contrary. The way I look at it..who cares what other people think in regard to what you feed your dog? lol As long as you're feeding whatever food is best for *your dog's* body, you're doing the right thing.

We feed grain-free because Brussels has issues with grains affecting his tear ducts and staining.

That being said, I don't believe grains found in nature (not processed junk) are bad for dogs, tbh. They're carnivores, which means they eat meat. Which means in nature, they also eat whatever their prey eats (many of which eat ..ahem..grains).

In any case, I say feed your dog what your dog seems to do the best on. Just like humans, no one dog is the same. Some dogs do much better on grain-enriched foods, while others cannot tolerate it whatsoever.

Bella loves Orijen and it is very good for her, BUT she also needs her i/d that we recently got. The fiber in that food helps to bulk up her poopies and make it much easier for her to go potty, instead of straining to push out protein-packed poopy. She needs both...Brussels does not (prime example of dogs being different).

Find what works best for your dog...not everyone else's.

"....and that's the truthpllbbbb" ~Edith Ann (Lily Tomlin)

01-09-2012, 08:29 PM	#37
Taryn0405 Owned by a Gremlin Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Mitten State! Posts: 3,706	Every dogs system is different just like a human. Its what your baby tolerats amd thrives on. What may not work for your dog could work for mine. By the way, I strongly believe that a vet is too concerned with helping dogs health wise then caring about the mere possible 6% kickback they get on rx sales. My vet has recommended rx SD for Gizmo but they also consider and recommend other "higher quality "considered dog food too. __________________ Taryn Momma to Gizmo AKA Monkeyman My husband, daughter, son, and dog make me who I am "My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am."

01-10-2012, 07:28 AM	#39
107barney T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England Posts: 9,816	It is a regular practice here on the diet boards to dismiss the views of regular vets when it comes to nutrition. I must respectfully disagree that vets know nothing about nutrition. Mine knows quite a bit about it, just as she knows quite a bit about other healthcare topics like neurology, orthopedics, cardiology, internal medicine and dentistry. She is a generalist and that is all I expect of her -- a broad base of knowledge and a good sense of her patients and excellent judgment to know when to refer out for specialty care when needed. I don't think my vet is different than any other general vet in this regard. Some are better at some things than others, and some take special interests in some things while others do not. It is the same for every profession be it medicine, veterinary care, law, and the like. If one wants specialty care, find a specialist. If one is seeking in depth knowledge that surpasses a generalist, find a specialist. This is true in nutrition as well. It's easy to find a veterinary nutritionist, just check out www.acvn.org It really does beat complaining over what your general vet doesn't know. __________________ T. Bumpkins & Co. Washable Doggie Pee Pads (Save 10% Enter YTSAVE10 at checkout) Cathy, Teddy, Winston and Baby Clyde...RIP angels Barney and Daisy

01-09-2012, 04:09 PM	#35
tinalove YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Orangeburg SC Posts: 567	I don't think corn is a good product for dogs. Does RC have corn in it?

01-10-2012, 05:00 AM	#38
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	I have worked in the human health care industry for years and I can tell you that human physicians know next to nothing about nutrition. It is barely touched on in medical school. If there is a nutrition question like diabetes the physician will usually send the patient to dietitian or hand them a prepared diet sheet. Illnesses and "health" are approached with a prescription pad. I believe that vet's are about he same with their knowledge base. They depend on the pet food industry to provide the proper nutrition for their patients. The vet sells the stuff because it is all that is available for their patients. Not a lot of thought put into what the actual contents are. Pet food has had to be manufactured with ingredients that will have long shelf life not what a natural dog diet would be. Synthetic vitamins and other supplements are added to make up for what is missing. The pet may do well on it for a long time or it may not depending on it's system's ability to cope with the ingredients. It's the long term effects that concern me. But no, I don't believe that the vet makes a lot of money on the deal though there is a considerable mark up on everything they sell. They just depend on another industry to do the research and produce the food for pets.

01-10-2012, 10:27 AM	#40
Teegy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,631	I truly think it depends on the vet you have, I believe mine to be very knowledgable as far as surgeries etc, he's crap at nutrition, and doesn't think dogs should even be eating meat???? I even scolded someone on the street for the manner in which they were addressing and approaching their dog a few weeks ago to find out he was a vet. So him and my vet don't know anything about behaviour either. I think it's great to have breeders, friends and Yorkie yakkers that we are able to bounce things off. I appreciate all your input greatly

01-10-2012, 10:39 AM	#41
MorkieMomma Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Missouri, but will always be a Montana girl. Posts: 472	We feed our dogs grain-free Orijen, which some say is too high in Protein, some say quite the contrary. The way I look at it..who cares what other people think in regard to what you feed your dog? lol As long as you're feeding whatever food is best for your dog's body, you're doing the right thing. We feed grain-free because Brussels has issues with grains affecting his tear ducts and staining. That being said, I don't believe grains found in nature (not processed junk) are bad for dogs, tbh. They're carnivores, which means they eat meat. Which means in nature, they also eat whatever their prey eats (many of which eat ..ahem..grains). In any case, I say feed your dog what your dog seems to do the best on. Just like humans, no one dog is the same. Some dogs do much better on grain-enriched foods, while others cannot tolerate it whatsoever. Bella loves Orijen and it is very good for her, BUT she also needs her i/d that we recently got. The fiber in that food helps to bulk up her poopies and make it much easier for her to go potty, instead of straining to push out protein-packed poopy. She needs both...Brussels does not (prime example of dogs being different). Find what works best for your dog...not everyone else's. "....and that's the truthpllbbbb" ~Edith Ann (Lily Tomlin)