Just saw this thread. I would like to offer my condolences to you for everything you are going through.

So sorry for this tragic situation. It was difficult for me to read. It's a fear that we all will have to face. RIP Tiki. ~Joanne~

My prayers are with you over the loss of your sweet Tiki. God bless you.

So sorry for your loss. Rest in peace sweet Tiki

I noticed that someone said there might be a language barrier? In belize their first language is english, then spanish (my family originates from belize)

Anyway, to the OP
without saying what's been said; i'm sorry for your loss. I think put it into perspective one raisin for a dog is like a handful for us. The size proportions are different. It sounds like it was the raisins, but once again the only way to know is necropsy.

To prevent this from happening again, well don't feed your dog anything that isn't made for dogs. I'm not saying they can't get a little snack, but if it doesn't say it's for dogs (and even sometimes when it is for dogs it's not healthy) then you should look it up. It takes 5 seconds to google something before you feed it to your dog. Just some friendly advice.

I wanted to post this to kind of help clarify to those who don't know anything about Belize:
Also, I have family (and I visit yearly) in Douglass Village, Orange Walk, Corozal, San Pablo and San Pedro. San Pedro, being that it's more "touristy" has the best vets. My cousin takes her dog to a vet on that island and it's only a short flight from Belize City. Maybe you should look into where your vets are located. I know there aren't a lot tho. Belize itself, is not an island tho so I assume you're on one of the islands like San Pedro/Ambergris (which is so small you can literally ride a golf cart to each side), or Caye Caulker.

Like I said since these are more touristy they do tend to have a large degree of better medical care for people and pets :)

Once again, im very sorry for your loss

Just read this roller coaster of a thread!! Just wanted to tell Cindy that I am so very sorry about your sweet Tiki. He sounded like an amazing baby! I know your heart is hurting so very badly, and I will pray for some peace for you. Big hugs....

Threads about sickness and loss of a Yorkie or any beloved friend are always painful for everyone reading them. None of us want to think of the horror of having our precious babies sick or dying. Yet I think there is something to be learned with each experience that is posted here. I am so sorry you and your husband have had to go through this.

I have had dogs of various sizes all my life. Our Yellow Lab used to love to eat fruits and vegetables as snacks and I can remember family members throwing him grapes to catch and eat. We never knew they were toxic to dogs. Our lab never had a problem with them. It is only in recent years that I have read about grapes and raisins being so horrible for dogs. My grand daughter unknowingly gave a grape to my Gracie one day. I found her vomiting later that day not knowing that she had eaten the grape. Thankfully other than an upset stomach she had no other reaction. I think some dogs are more sensitive to them than others and I have read that various types of grapes have a more severe effect on a dog than others. I think a raisin may have a more concentrated amount of whatever toxic substance in the fruit.

Of course you are not to blame. I'm sure there are many people who are also unaware of the danger. Your sharing this information may very well save the beloved companion of someone else who reads this thread.

I also think that if your little guy had a severe kidney reaction the the raisins that the vet may have been able to prolong his life by a few days but once the kidneys are damaged there is little that can be done to save the life of the little one.

Your little guy did not know what was happening and did not expect to leave you so soon. This may sound controversial or just plain stupid but I believe that even dogs have eternal spirits and that when they die they go on to wait for their beloved owners. I'm sure atheists and theologians alike would disagree with me, however, anyone who has looked into the eyes of their well loved pet suspects there is much more going on in there than just a few brain cells that cease to exist.

I hope you can be at peace and realize that you did what you knew to do at the time. That is all that can be expected of us. I'm sure you would have turned the world upside down to save him if you knew. Kisses and hugs to your other sweet little girl. I'm sure you will be ten times more cautious with her.

First I would like to welcome you to Yorkie Talk though I wish it were under better circumstances.
As you have found, there are so many very caring and compassionate people here.
I am so very sorry for the loss of your little guy.
It is always so very difficult when we lose a furbaby.
There are many of us here that have been through a loss (or more) of furbabies and know what you are going through.
I will keep you and your family in my prayers.

First of all i do not think there is any need for your aggressive post.....i was not trying to disprove your posts all i was doing was giving my opinion which correct me if i am wrong i am allowed to do??? or is only your opinion allowed???
I never said bloat does not happen in small dogs i said it normally happens in large dogs.....
As for choking the poster never even mentioned that her dog was choking or coughing so not sure what that has to do with it?? :confused:
She also never mentioned anything to do with raw hides:confused:
I was repeating what a vet had once told me, that its rare for small dogs to have blockages as they cant swallow large items, i was not saying it never happens...

You said you were speculating well so was i and everyone else on this thread as like you said the only way to know for sure is a necropsy but as this would mean digging up the posters dog i am sure you would not expect her to do that.....

As for what you have posted here QUOTE I would appreciate in the future that you do some research before you post and try to disprove my posts. I have done the reseach and can disprove yours. end QUOTE

I would like to say again i did not try to disprove your posts and why you would think i did is beyond me:confused: i do not need to do any research to express my opinion and my personal life experiences and do not feel the need to research to try and disprove anyone elses ... in fact your research has proved nothing.....

i posted QUOTE ...my vet told me the good thing with little dogs is that they cant swallow anything big enough to cause a blockage so i cant see a raisin causing one....
Also its rare for small dogs to get bloat...END QUOTE

MY vet said small dogs cant swallow anything big enough to cause a blockage not me.... i also said i cant see a raisin causing one...not that it couldn't..... and i also said its rare for a small dog to get bloat...i didn't say they dont.... i find your post very rude and totally uncalled for....

I came on here to offer my opinion to the poster not have a competition on who knows the most.....we can all offer our opinions/suggestions but in the end they are all just speculations and the poster will still never know why her beloved dog died..... this thread is meant to be about offering support and ideas to the poster and it seems to of turned in to a mud slinging match which i find very distasteful....

Small dogs have smaller organs and systems there for small things can cause a blockage in a small dog.................

I'm so sorry you had to go through this. I can understand how you feel and how very hurt you are. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

I am adding my opinion about the raisins. I do think they had a huge amount to do with your baby's death. A few years ago and before I knew that dogs could not have grapes/raisins I would give my shih tzu one or two occasionally. I never connected that the day after she would be listless and uncommunicative. When she was taken to the vet she would require an iv to rehydrate her. After a day or so she was back to normal. The vet would ask if she had gotten into anything and I would always answer no. We agreed that since she was a puppymill rescue she was probably just a sickly little dog. We have always battled keeping weight on her. Well once I heard about the grapes and stopped giving them to her we never had another episode.

I'm telling you this because Cassie was always at least 11 lbs and sometimes 12 and just a couple of grapes would make her seriously ill.
That is quite a bit more than 7 lbs.

Don't beat yourself up because you didn't know. And thank you for sharing your story. People will learn from this because of your post.
Hugs
Lou

I never said they couldn't :) my vets thinking was that something IE food would have to be small enough to be swallowed by the small dog so in MOST CASES it would not cause a blockage.... if a dog has chewed something IE not food then it could swell on its way to the stomach and cause a blockage.... thats his thinking not mine which i made clear in my posts..... the reason my vet told me that in most cases small dogs dont get blockages is because tye and zac chewed and eat some polystyrene and i was very worried that it would swell and cause a blockage but they were fine and it came out the other end :D

That is my vets opinion based on his experience and i dont agree or disagree with it.... some people booster there dog every year which some vets recommend including mine but i dont agree with it and booster every 3 years, its all about personal opinion based on personal experience...

Cindy,

I'm just now seeing this thread. I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't even imagine what you are feeling. I do have a little experience with dogs and raisins. Here's a link where I wrote about our lab mix getting into raisins. At the time I knew that they were bad for dogs but not how bad. Please don't feel guilt. From what the vet told me, after symptoms begin it is usually too late. I'm sorry but you will probably never be able to know definitively what caused sweet Tiki's death. You are in my prayers.

Karen

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...s-raisins.html

My apologies to you... no aggression intended... I misread your post yesterday... my post quoting you was totally out of line. My apologies to the OP also... not the time or place for disagreement.

I am sorry for your loss. I understand the pain, and I understand your wanting answers and closure. I lost a little girl about 3 or so years ago. I wanted to know why...and like your loss I felt I could have done something different. I really beat myself up over it for a long time.

I hope time heals the pain.. Take care

Shinja

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You...
 

Hello Everyone,

Words cannot express how much I appreciate all of your support and kindness to me yesterday. I came to the forum for a purpose and that purpose was fulfilled beyond my wildest expectations.

I will continue to hang around this site because of the knowledgeable caring people here.

I will pour over the informative parts of the site. Read some of the past topics and start to get involved in this wonderful community.

About 12 years ago I saw my first Yorkie. It was love at first sight. I bugged my hubby relentlessly and we finally got Tiki in 2001 when we still lived in Canada. He came from Tiny Treasures up in Prince George, BC.

Tiki was the most incredible dog I have ever had. Gorgeous, smart, stubborn, playful and loyal. He had a silent whine that only I could hear and that he drove me crazy with. I miss that now... Tiki knew what he wanted and knew just how to get it. He lived an amazing life first in Victoria and then after we sold everything, bought a mortorhome and went travelling, of course we brought him along. He travelled all over Mexico for a total of 17 months. Then lived in Belize for 14 months while we got our residency. Then lived on Caye Caulker Island, here in Belize, for about 4 years now...

He loved his toys and to fetch. He loved mealtimes and snacks, he loved to follow me 'everywhere', he loved to lie in the sunshine, even here in Belize.

He hated being left behind. He hated to be confined as a puppy. He would go nuts when anyone came to the door, and immediately make friends with them and insist on playing with his toys, had them trained to play fetch with them in minutes.

We talked, he sang, he knew all the standard tricks and a few others... He howled when he was so happy he could burst. Like one time we were walking along the beach, Barry and I and sweet Tiki, he was running along in and out of the shallow waves, (This was in Punta Perula, Mexico) and up the beach to these little sand dunes of about a foot high. All of the sudden he just stopped, sat there panting, threw his head back and howled. He was just so happy to be out, free and with his Mom & Dad.

I love Tiki beyond words, I have laid him to rest, I miss him terribly. But through the pain, I can see how it was his time, I can see he did not blame me, I can see that my sweet boy will live forever in my heart.

I have another Yorkie named Sadi, she is 4 and only 3.5 lbs. She is quiet, shy, needy and ever so cuddly. She is my baby girl and just exactly what my heart needs right now. Sadi also is like no other dog I have ever had, but for completely special and different reasons than Tiki.

I will have a Yorkie in my life for the rest of my life. I am completely hooked.

Tiki and I want to thank you for all of your support and kindness, it is forever grateful.

Warm warm tropical regards to each of you and Happy Holidays.

If there is anyone I did not respond to I apologize, it has been a trying time.

Big hugs,

Cindy & Tiki :animal-pa

I'm sorry we had to meet you due to such a painful circumstance. I also am shocked at some of the comments by some YT members. I have to question what kind of human beings we are becoming when a person feels the need to attack and accuse someone that has shown nothing but an outreach for support in a time of grief. While it is true there are some strange ones that come on this site just to stir up controversy we cannot suspect every person who comes on here with a different sort of a circumstance. Sometimes it is wise to just keep your paranoid feelings to yourself and let it go. It is not worth taking the risk of harming someone who is only reaching out for help. If someone is a troll it will show up soon enough without your accusations and sarcastic remarks.

Well said gracielove. I could not agree with you more.

Thank you apology accepted, we all have moments when we dont read a post correctly, i have done it myself so no worries and no hard feelings :):big_hug:

Another lovely tribute to Tiki.:aimeeyork

I am so very sorry for your loss of sweet Tiki. (((hugs)))

Tikidog - I am so sorry to hear your little Tiki has gone on. We lost our little Cricket Nov. last year. They never leave your heart. I hope you find some comfort w Sadie's loving presence.

Cindy - what a great tribute to Tiki, that was so heartfelt. I feel like I know him a little bit now, even though he's left your side. He sounds like he had so much personality. I'm glad you have Sadi, bc nothing is more healing than a good cuddle w/ a furkid.

So sorry for your loss. May Tiki rip and both you and he be pain free now.

My heart goes out to you!!! Your in my prayers !Could he have gotten into anything posion ???

Your tributes to Tiki are very beautiful. I can feel the love you had for your dear boy with every word you write. I am so sorry for your loss of your baby. I lost my last little one right before she would have turned seventeen about a year and a half ago. The pain is still very deep, but so is the love. Your baby will live on in your heart, and the love will last forever. We try our best with our little ones, always educating ourself about what would be best for them and giving them love, attention, and affection. In spite of all that, I know that I made some mistakes, too, even though my babies were my life. I have not gotten another Yorkie yet, but I'm sure that I will. I still come to this site to continue learning more (and I had Yorkies for over 30 years), and also there are so many wonderful people in this community that I've grown to care a great deal about. I hope you will be kind to yourself. You did what you could to care for your little Tiki. I don't think you'll know if it was the raisins that made him sick. Before I learned that raisins and grapes were bad for dogs, my first Yorkie ate them, and sometimes lots of them, and they never harmed her. I got very lucky. My next three never had them because I learned they were bad, and today information is so more readily available to us, so I know so much more. I hope you stay on this forum. You will learn so much about Yorkies, and it's wonderful reading about other dog-lovers who will do anything to help their babies. The people in this community keep drawing me back, even though I don't currently have a Yorkie in my life. I'm sorry you were hurt here, but there are so many kind people here and I hope we can help you cope with your loss. I understand how painful it is to lose someone who is loved so much, and I care. If you need my help, please PM me. I hope that the special memories that you have of Tiki warm your heart and replace the sadness that you are feeling in time. Please accept my deepest condolences.

I admit, when I first read this thread a few days ago, I too was more than a lil suspicious as to the authenticity of the OP....so didn't respond.

The frequent postings and then needing to leave and be back momentarily... I found.....unusual.

We judge the world from our perspective...from how we would handle things...and the OP's presentation of her situation sparked skepticism in my mind as to whether it was real or not, so I'm not at all surprised others had the same reaction. We all express our grief in different ways and at times that may come across as unusual to others. Perhaps the Marine you mentioned, who very recently suffered the loss of his dog & long-time companion, with his own grief still raw, had a similar difficulty relating to how you presented the account of your loss, as I did.

Now, trying to catch up on the thread, some attitudes are not making much sense to me...I'm taking it some posts have been deleted.


To the OP, I'm sorry for your loss. No matter when they go, it always seems too soon. Take comfort in knowing he had lived a long life and was well loved during the time you had him. RIP Tiki

I'm sorry. All I can say is how sad to lose a member of Yorkie Talk like this.
I know we don't always agree and I'm not here to debate this but I just think this is so sad. I know that Yorkie Talk is full of so many very caring and compassionate people. I have read so many posts that prove that and have been on the receiving end of that care and compassion.
I don't normally post something like this but I just feel very bad about how this all turned out for her.
I'm sorry if I offend anyone with this post.

I am so sorry you lost your baby & know how you feel. You should not be ashamed of your feelings as you have the rite to grieve however & whenever you choose, it is all a natural part of life & death. I pray that your heart can recover from your loss & that you find happiness in the memories of your sweet baby.

more woman were kind
 

What about ALL the people that were so kind ? They way out number the other kind. God bless you