I have read through this entire thread, and I have to say that this is the most judgmental thing I have ever read on YorkieTalk. I had a lot of respect for you as a member mscat, but you definitely lost me here :thumbdown :thumbdown

As a person who carries my dogs in a purse, I feel that this was a very condescending comment. I hope you take time to think about how you sound and that you really put down a lot of people with your comment. I do not think I look 'cool' or 'rich' with my dogs. They are part of my family, and get to go with me a lot of places. I am sorry if you do not feel the same way about your dogs, but you do not see me talking down to you.

THANK YOU! Finally someone who got it right :) All living things are equal in my view. I think as humans we have a superiority complex.

:yelrotflm Exactly! I find it interesting that some people assume that everyone wants children. I understand that most women have the innate desire to be a mother, but not everyone has this.

I often feel bad for people who DO have kids! :p

:thumbup: I think that people assume that because they experience something, so does everyone else. I personally have no desire to have children, and my dogs are not filling a 'void'.

Pnut is my kid! I dont care what ANYONE SAYS! I buy him kid like things, I take him everywhere I can, I love him to death, I would carry him in a purse if he would let me, he eats the best food, has the best vet, a million toys. He is family! :aimeeyork

I honeslty think I am "COOL" Yorkies are wonderful little things, they bring such joy and happiness to peoples lifes. Anyone that is able to have one is lucky and cool!

I was also shocked when I read it, I didn't have much to say without getting myself in trouble. Though when mscat was called on it, this was her response:

And I will have to agree with gidget here with her post.

Oh how I remember that exact feeling with my second daughter. I was actually scared to have a second, and it took me five years to decide to have her.
Let me tell you, I found the room in my heart for my second!!!

I joke that my daughter's are like night and day, and they are, in looks and in personality. Children will teach you many things, help you grow in many ways, help you down your life's path in different ways. It is not all about what you teach them, but what they teach you.........about the world, about yourself, about relationships. While my first helped me learn responsibility, undying love, patience, and courage, my second helped me learn acceptance, unconditional love, hope, humility and humanity. Children are a gift and we should cherish them every day!

My oldest sister decided young not to have children..........she was very happy with that decision for many years. As she reached the end of her child-bearing years I think she started to regret it.............too late to take that decision back, she adopted a pug........The girl who used to make fun of me for treating my yorkies like babies, now treats her TWO pugs like babies even more-so than me. They are her "children" and I even got her a Mother's Day card this year. When she asked why I said,
"Well you are Chico and Maddie's mama aren't you?";) Made her very happy.
Whether by choice, "mistake", or design, some people do not have children........if they so choose to place all that love into an animal.......I see it as just another gift.
True Gifts in this world are varied, for some it is children, for some it is animals, and for some, it is BOTH!

Some people don't want kinds and think that having them would ruin their lives! It's not filling a void to have animals, it's just part of a natural existence for some to have them. I also don't really care when I see people carrying dogs in bags or in strollers. I usually just smile to myself thinking how wonderful it is to see someone who has incorporated their little dog(s) into their day.

I don't mean to take the thread back to the negative, however, your post has bothered me for a few days now...and I just wanted to address it.

I think it's understandable to get carried away. I also think it can feel cathartic to express your feelings, even if/when we go too far. That said, it's hard to reconcile that you "don't care" about the feelings and opinions that may be different from yours. So many members have been so kind to you here, so that kind of stings. I realize there have been difficult threads for you (and all of us) in the past, but there has also been so much support.

Anyway, please don't take what I said the wrong way...but I too need to say what I feel at times, and I do care for you.

Have you all seen this? :D

Restaurant bans kids under 6. Discrimination or smart move? - Parenting on Shine

Interesting! I dont see anything wrong with it. Certain restaurants are trying to accomodate a certain type of clienetelle and shouldnt be subjected to screaming kids and parents that dont know when its time to leave because your child is behaving in a way that everyone can enjoy their time at the restaurant

I totally agree. I don't understand how people allow their children to be disruptive.

We've been to restaurants that are child free on certain days, and after 9. I see nothing wrong with it. I don't want to listen to a screaming kid during my dinner, movie, or even my shopping trips. I wish grocery stores had "adult only" shopping times. And movie theaters too....

I don't think that's a totally bad idea... I mean, certain restaurants just aren't meant for kids. I see nothing wrong with an owner of a restaurant making such a rule. Like, if I go to Ruths Cris (a fancy steakhouse if one doesn't know) I wouldn't bring a kid. I'd choose to go to Outback Steakhouse or something instead. Certain places are just more kid friendly than others and there's kind of an "unspoken" rule where to bring your kids and where not to.

I just saw that on yahoo and it made me think of this thread! LOL That restaurant is only banning kids under 6, but I've seen plenty of children OVER the age of 6 having total cows in public. Like the kid at Ross I mentioned some 50 or so odd pages ago on this thread. I think he was about 8 or 9. While the idea of dining in an upscale, quiet restaurant with no kids under 6 seem nice, there can still be older kids or teens even who act inappropriately at times. Where's the cut off point? I think parents in general need to be able to control their kids.

Damn girl! Ruth's Chris! :p I've still never been, can't drop that much change. :D

You win the prize!!!!!!

Checked out their website - looks delish! It is an hour and a half away from us, though. What would you recommend if I can get the husband to make the drive?

I also wish restaurant managers would be more proactive in denying service to parents who bring in children that are causing disruptions. At least this way it forces people to think twice about bringing along misbehaved kids.

The thing is these parent's don't think their kids are misbehaved. Their kids are right, the world is wrong. Sometimes, I dare say the parent's are just as bad as the kids.:rolleyes: I saw a dad and his kids playing with footballs at WalMart. When they were finished, the dad told the kids to come on and when his son started back to pick up the ball the DAD said, "Just leave it. Someone gets paid to pick it up.":eek:

Oh!! You forgot to add kids running around the restaurant!!! I was at at restaurant and the kids were running around and the parents did NOTHING!! :rolleyes: UGH!

i don't know about you but as far as I'm aware the standard for a yorkie is NOT red it's golden or blonde and silver blue. :rolleyes:

hence the confusion

Scarlett was never a red head...she's got silver roots like her mama :D

No red heads here either, just smart blondes.:D

I agree with this! It's sad that someone out there probably had some really really horribly undisciplined and out of control children to make people start to ban children from places. I've seen bratty kids in lots of places that adults were trying to relax and I've seen quiet, polite children who knew how to act in public and even had enough etiquette in fine dining to do better than some adults.

I hope at least to be the type of parent that raises mine to be able to act like civilized little gentleman and women. I would hope to have kids that can sit still in church or a movie or a restuarant and also hope to know the difference between kid friendly places and places that are better for getting a baby sitter and going to.

It's kinda the same with dogs. One misbehaved dog can ruin it for everyone else in places that were not a big deal to have dogs in like Home Depot. However for the grocery store or places with food, dogs really shouldn't be allowed. Even dogs in purses that never touch the ground can sometimes carry fleas, ticks, worms, and on and on. There is no way to tell who has a clean and healthy doggie that's been vetted or a sick one that's hiding in a purse causing flea infestation to all those around them. (that made me itch just thinking of it)

Anyways. The ultimate point is that dog or child, it's the PARENTS that need to learn how to teach their respective "kids" how to behave in public or leave them at home if they can't act like civilized "kids"

eek gotta love bratty kids :D and their fathers ;)

i was thinking though sometimes how irritated that i get when a parent comes out of our theater or other event into the lobby where i sit trying to hear and help patrons and the phones and they'll walk around in here with a crying, screaming, fit throwing child. When they are obviously old enough to be disciplined somehow it infuriates me that the parent does nothing and allows those screaming fits to happen and doesn't even both to tak them outside for a bit.

when it's an infant upset it's annoying but i wonder if that'll be me someday, trying to comfort a crying baby and annoying the whole world around me when i'm out. i hope i take the child outside to the car or at least away from the desk person or clerks, but it's your baby and you have to do your best to comfort them. sometimes they cry and you can't always make them stop. i hope i can figure out how to manage this without people being annoyed with me, but it's a challenge to any parent to quiet and calm down a little baby.

no excuse for those that have a screaming three year old wailing and kicking them and yelling. that one i know how to stop! :p

My mother use to be an interior decorator and we would go into stores that had signs that said "We reserve the right to kick out any bad childern and their even worse parents..." (that was my favorite sign).

My family had a lumber and hardware store and I cannot tell you how many times I had to approach parents and tell them that they need please pay attention to their children with trying to go to the bathroom in our toilet displays or attempt to cut off their siblings hand with out table saw examples...
One individual actually put his kid in the laundry tub display while he walked around the store. But once again, we were the owners and it was our decision being our business to be able to "kick someone out" or let dogs in. Besides my brother's dog was always in our back office and we weren't the do as I say, but not as I do type.

Or how about the time I was in a restaurant and the OWNERS kids were playing with bouncy balls :eek: all over the restaurant............the FIRST time it hit me, I kindly asked the waitress to see if someone could calm the kids down..............the second time it hit me, I told the waitress to cancel my order and let the restaurant owner know that I would never return because if he could not control his own kids, he was definitely incompetent to run a restaurant.:mad:

ur kidding me this really does happen?? i have to hear more!

:p My husband and I helped my SIL and had my niece a LOT when she was younger and she was DIFFICULT to say the least. I have had my fair share of embarrassments in public places with her.:rolleyes: I got some "looks" from ppl as if I could snap a finger and make her stop. I just smiled and went on.:)
I tend to overlook screaming babies/toddlers and feel sorry for the parents. There were times when I could not leave and other times I was able to and did. It is hard. Get ready girl, you will have your times too.:p