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11-18-2005, 02:29 PM | #16 |
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| I too want to applaud AkitaKt on her awareness! I'm impressed that you know your stuff! We need to keep on spreading the word! lol We really do need a teapot yorkie club! Harley says he thinks it's a great idea!
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11-18-2005, 02:35 PM | #17 | |
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11-18-2005, 03:09 PM | #18 |
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| I am glad your Harley is healthy and you don't care about his size. I am sure you know that large does not necessarily mean healthy, any more than small means unhealthy. Extremely large Yorkies may even have some other mix in their background. (see below) I personally don't care what size a Yorkie is, they are all adorable. I *do* care about their health though. Since 7lbs. is the standard I wonder how many large Yorkies "teapots" come from reputable experienced breeders that are trying to stay pure to the standard. I imagine it's the same amount that end up with tiny "teacup" ones. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.shooterdog.com/alexfaq3.htm#TEACUP What is a Teacup Yorkie? Is that just backyard breeder hype? Yorkies according to history were always a small dog, but outcrossing in many cases has caused some larger dogs. There is speculation that some "breeders" have used Silky Terriers and registered them as Yorkshire Terriers. This could happen in kennels where they have more than one breed. They have been bred for 50-60 years as a toy dog which averages 4-6 pounds... there are occasionally 2-4 pounders and occasionally 7-9 pounders. Mice have been mice for thousands of years and therefore the size is more predictable. Most breeders will not breed a female under 4.5 or 5 pounds because to do so would be cruel and probably cause a C-section or other problems with a crowded uterus, so those that are too small to breed are sold as Tinies... (not tea cups and not miniature... just tiny). Also, small males 2-3 pounds, make breeding a little more difficult, though possible, due to the size of the male in comparison to the size of the female, so most breeders settle on a 4-7 pound size as a preference. It is possible therefore, for pups in the same litter to mature anywhere from 3 to 8 pounds in the same litter. The terminology "tea cup" size came about in the 70's when the breed became more popular than the poodle which had three sizes, toy, miniature and standard. Poodle people would differentiate between toy and very tiny poodles by calling them tea cup meaning they could sit in a tea cup and were tiny. As this size differential doesn't exist in Yorkshires, the terminology is incorrect and seems to be used by some breeders to extract a higher price for the puppy as a "tea cup size." It simply means "tiny." I would venture to guess that legitimate, reputable breeders probably come up with 60% between 4-7 pounds at maturity and 20% under 4 pounds and 20% in the 7-9 pound range. Weight is a consideration but depending on the muscle and bone in a particular dog, they can weigh more or less than you think, i.e. a 12 inch at shoulders dog could be 7 lbs and be very skinny and fine boned, while a 9.5 inch at shoulders could also be 7 lbs. and look much smaller because it carries more muscle and bone. For more information on weight history go to http://www.geocities.com/~dugmore/weighthistory.html. |
11-18-2005, 04:53 PM | #19 | |
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11-18-2005, 05:04 PM | #20 | |
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11-18-2005, 05:20 PM | #21 | |
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11-18-2005, 05:31 PM | #22 |
Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member | I agree LeeAnne - I've seen Silkys at dog shows and there is no doubt they are different than yorkies - Totally different look - I can spot them easily if it's a true Silky vs Yorkie...Just because a yorkie is a bit over the std size does NOT mean they are part Silky |
11-18-2005, 06:10 PM | #23 |
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| [QUOTE=shelbysmom]I am glad your Harley is healthy and you don't care about his size. I am sure you know that large does not necessarily mean healthy, any more than small means unhealthy. Extremely large Yorkies may even have some other mix in their background. (see below) I personally don't care what size a Yorkie is, they are all adorable. I *do* care about their health though. Since 7lbs. is the standard I wonder how many large Yorkies "teapots" come from reputable experienced breeders that are trying to stay pure to the standard. I imagine it's the same amount that end up with tiny "teacup" ones.[QUOTE] How terribly nice of you to enlighten those of us who are so uneducated about yorkies. I also find it interesting that you don't care about their size; just their health. Puleeeeeeeeze spare us in the future.
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11-18-2005, 06:57 PM | #24 | |
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| [QUOTE=yorkieusa][QUOTE=shelbysmom]I am glad your Harley is healthy and you don't care about his size. I am sure you know that large does not necessarily mean healthy, any more than small means unhealthy. Extremely large Yorkies may even have some other mix in their background. (see below) I personally don't care what size a Yorkie is, they are all adorable. I *do* care about their health though. Since 7lbs. is the standard I wonder how many large Yorkies "teapots" come from reputable experienced breeders that are trying to stay pure to the standard. I imagine it's the same amount that end up with tiny "teacup" ones. Quote:
haha I think I just made an @ss out of myself.. I think I might be sticking my foot in my mouth next post.. We'll see!
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11-18-2005, 09:19 PM | #26 | |
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I was only stating what is a possible explaination according to some very experienced Yorkie breeders. Not my opinion. | |
11-18-2005, 09:29 PM | #27 |
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| How terribly nice of you to enlighten those of us who are so uneducated about yorkies. I also find it interesting that you don't care about their size; just their health. Puleeeeeeeeze spare us in the future. [/QUOTE] Very nice. darlin, go back and read. I was stating that I believe you get healthy Yorkies large and small from people that know what the heck they are doing. Those people are breeders that have been doing this for years. Size does not make a dog healthy or unhealthy. I said I think all yorkies are cute, size doesn't matter. What part of that don't you understand? Doesn't everyone here feel the same way? It's the same as saying you don't care whether ears are up or down or you like long coats and puppy cuts. Yorkies are adorable. |
11-18-2005, 09:36 PM | #28 | |
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You have owned a yorkie for a few months. You are suddenly very knowledgeable about yorkies, when we have studied them for years and years and years!
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11-18-2005, 09:53 PM | #29 | |
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im just curious, what exactly is the difference between Silky's and Yorkies? what are some of those differences you say you can spot right off the back?
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11-18-2005, 09:53 PM | #30 | |
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"we" who is "we"? Is that supposed to make me feel like I am out of the circle or something? I do know a lot about Yorkies, spent months doing research before buying one. I have also learned a lot here and I think I have things I can contribute to new members. There are always different viewpoints which can be useful and enlightening to everyone. The key is being civil. Try it sometime. | |
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