Diamond Yorkies

[AlicetheYorkie]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

To the Moon Alice, to the Moon!

Hahahaha, Aw, Steve, you sure do know how to make a girl smile don't you Your wife taught you how to do that didn't she? hehe

[tallicedlatte]

Howdy everyone, been watching the responses pour in. I'm quite taken aback, but I know everyone has the yorkie's best interests at heart here. So do I. I still plan on going to check out Nicky. Of course, if I see problems I won't purchase. I'm not interested in a perfectly bred show dog, but I do want healthy and a good temperment. So I will keep everyone posted on my experience!

Thanks!

[AlicetheYorkie]

Originally Posted by tallicedlatte

Howdy everyone, been watching the responses pour in. I'm quite taken aback, but I know everyone has the yorkie's best interests at heart here. So do I. I still plan on going to check out Nicky. Of course, if I see problems I won't purchase. I'm not interested in a perfectly bred show dog, but I do want healthy and a good temperment. So I will keep everyone posted on my experience!

Thanks!

Well, make sure you can see his parents too (that they're healthy, clean, indoors, and well taken care of), that would be my #1 advice if you have your heart set on him. Our negativity has not a thing to do with a perfectly bred show dog, we're telling you that it's pretty unlikely that you'll get a "healthy dog with a good temperment" from a breeder like that, that's all. It's not just the Yorkie's best interest we're talking about either, it's yours too. Well, good luck.

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by tallicedlatte

Howdy everyone, been watching the responses pour in. I'm quite taken aback, but I know everyone has the yorkie's best interests at heart here. So do I. I still plan on going to check out Nicky. Of course, if I see problems I won't purchase. I'm not interested in a perfectly bred show dog, but I do want healthy and a good temperment. So I will keep everyone posted on my experience!

Thanks!

That is where most people looking for a nice pet get it wrong, show breeders DO NOT just end up with show dogs in their litters. Those pups that are not quite what we want for the show rings are ones that are nice pet ones for those looking for a pet, interviews, genetic health guarantees will apply. And you can get a nice pet puppy with a fabulous pedigree, all the help and advice you can possibly want and we know what is behind our dogs. Any breeding we do is for the best fo rthe breed in mind in type, conformation AND temperment and to the breed standard.
They are not sold too young, well socialised and with so much knowledge from the breeder it will make your head spin.

[tallicedlatte]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

That is where most people looking for a nice pet get it wrong, show breeders DO NOT just end up with show dogs in their litters. Those pups that are not quite what we want for the show rings are ones that are nice pet ones for those looking for a pet, interviews, genetic health guarantees will apply. And you can get a nice pet puppy with a fabulous pedigree, all the help and advice you can possibly want and we know what is behind our dogs. Any breeding we do is for the best fo rthe breed in mind in type, conformation AND temperment and to the breed standard.
They are not sold too young, well socialised and with so much knowledge from the breeder it will make your head spin.

Yes, I agree. I also looked into a formal show dog breeder that had a pet quality dog from a litter. Would have LOVED to have him, but she wanted $1500 and I simply cannot afford that price, nor can the average person, I think. Esp taking into account all the other expenses involved in caring for a dog in the first year. Feel free to private message me if you want!

[shodanusmc]

Originally Posted by AlicetheYorkie

Hahahaha, Aw, Steve, you sure do know how to make a girl smile don't you Your wife taught you how to do that didn't she? hehe

Yes, she did. I need a sense of humor to get by!

[AlicetheYorkie]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Yes, she did. I need a sense of humor to get by!

LOL, yes we all do

[moshes_human]

Originally Posted by tallicedlatte

Howdy everyone, been watching the responses pour in. I'm quite taken aback, but I know everyone has the yorkie's best interests at heart here. So do I. I still plan on going to check out Nicky. Of course, if I see problems I won't purchase. I'm not interested in a perfectly bred show dog, but I do want healthy and a good temperment. So I will keep everyone posted on my experience!

Thanks!

Why would you support a BYB?

[JESSY_RN2B]

Originally Posted by moshes_human

Why would you support a BYB?

Don't waste your time. Save it to advice the willing.

[lillymae]

Originally Posted by tallicedlatte

Howdy everyone, been watching the responses pour in. I'm quite taken aback, but I know everyone has the yorkie's best interests at heart here. So do I. I still plan on going to check out Nicky. Of course, if I see problems I won't purchase. I'm not interested in a perfectly bred show dog, but I do want healthy and a good temperment. So I will keep everyone posted on my experience!

Thanks!

Unfortunately the health issues that these babies get , you cannot see just by looking at the dog. Does breeder do genetic testing ? I did not see so on their site so you could be paying full price and above for a reject pup that will end up with LS or Chiari & that's not anything you want to mess around with.

[tallicedlatte]

Originally Posted by JESSY_RN2B

Don't waste your time. Save it to advice the willing.

Wow... this being my very first posting to the group, kinda harsh to say that her response is a waste of time. I DONT want to support an irresponsible breeder at all! I can't afford a yorkie from a show breeder... If someone is willing to show me where to get one that I can afford, that would be great! It is SOOOO hard to find a "good" yorkie at a reasonable price. I can absolutely relate to some of the frustration I've read from others on here that are struggling to find one. I'm trying to be dilligent and find some kind of balance.

[bradjo]

Originally Posted by tallicedlatte

.........snip...... but she wanted $1500 and I simply cannot afford that price,.....

$1500 is merely the down payment on livershunt surgery. Liver shunt is not visible to the naked eye. What do you do if you are 2 or 3 years down the road with your beloved pup and he/she has a shunt and needs surgery what do you do?

I've waited 20 years to be able to financially and physically be able to care for the yorkie I am looking for, and have not found yet. I've desperately wanted a dog but it wasn't fair to the dog if I could not financially afford it.

The back yard breeders/puppy mills that do these awful things would stop in a moment if no one purchased from them. So every time someone purchases from a non-AKC breed furtherment breeder I believe they are perpetuating the 'greeders'. But having bred for show I have extremely strong feelings along these lines so don't necessarily take what my opinion is to heart.

I know only to well how desperately you can miss canine companionship. But how much worse to have your little love become so sick and need $6,000.00 in vet fees so what do you do? Surrender the dog so not only do they have to go through the hell of all the medical care but go through it alone without the love of the human they have bonded to or worse have to put them down?

It is tough, very, very tough, to do what is right and ultimately we all have to make that decision for ourselves.
Jo

[JESSY_RN2B]

Originally Posted by tallicedlatte

Wow... this being my very first posting to the group, kinda harsh to say that her response is a waste of time. I DONT want to support an irresponsible breeder at all! I can't afford a yorkie from a show breeder... If someone is willing to show me where to get one that I can afford, that would be great! It is SOOOO hard to find a "good" yorkie at a reasonable price. I can absolutely relate to some of the frustration I've read from others on here that are struggling to find one. I'm trying to be dilligent and find some kind of balance.

If you cant afford the dog, you may not afford to raise it or provide medical care for it if you end up with a sick animal.

Maybe look for a rescue or wait until you can afford one.

Good luck

[moshes_human]

There are other ways.
You could call your local ASPCA every week or so and ask if they have any yorkies that have been surrendered. A friend of mine got a puppy that way (wasn't a yorkie it was a pug).
You could contact Yorkie rescues...there are quite a few.

Anytime a BYB gets your money you in a way are helping them stay in business and ultimately helping the over population problem and animal cruelty that goes along with these breeding practices. For every BYB pup there are some parents who are probably locked in a cage somewhere without care, attention or proper food and hygiene.

I personally don't care one bit about breed standard. I would get a Briewer in a heart beat (I look at greenwood's web site at least once a week and dream lol) but what I do care about is testing. Like someone said...1500 might seem like a lot until that pup gets sick and needs surgery. The couple hundred bucks you save now could bite you in the butt later.

I totally understand wanting...heck needing one of these adorable creatures. I dreamed about it for years. I think what we are all trying to say is that we don't want you to regret your choice (not to mention supporting a BYB is not something any of us here can contend with).

Here is what I did. I put the word out. I contacted anyone I could think of(ASPCA, rescues, vet's office, the people at petscence, the pound). I told EVERYONE I was looking. I refused many pups because I would get calls that so and so breeds yorkies, but when I investigated they were obvious BYB. Out of the blue I got a call. A girl my friend knew bought a pup from a back yard breeder and changed her mind and no longer wanted the little guy. The breeder had refused to take him back, so I stepped in and purchased Moshe. The other girl who wanted him was just awful (her son killed their Pom) and I knew there was no way I was letting that woman have this baby! I waited for what seemed like forever to find him, but when I did it was meant to be. We needed each other.

Your heart is already invested in this pup and that makes it hard. I do wish you the best of luck and I hope your feeling aren't hurt. That wasn't my intention.

And remember anything worth while is always worth the wait.

(please over look typos etc. I'm on the smallest keyboard in the free world)

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by tallicedlatte

Yes, I agree. I also looked into a formal show dog breeder that had a pet quality dog from a litter. Would have LOVED to have him, but she wanted $1500 and I simply cannot afford that price, nor can the average person, I think. Esp taking into account all the other expenses involved in caring for a dog in the first year. Feel free to private message me if you want!

Yes if I am selling a puppy that is the usual price. I don't let them go anywhere usually until closer to 4 months sometimes older. Price will include all puppy vacc's already done and health guarantees. Sometimes if I have run one on for show and it is not turning out what I had hoped I do let them go a little less, already neutered. Females are spayed but usually I don't drop the price on a female.
I don't make any money I don't even break even. You have no idea of the years, money, heartache and time and work the average show breeder has put into their chosen breed. And the nice parts such as producing a nice show dog or even a quality pet puppy that someone cares about and well cares for it, saves up for it and honours our intentions of what we do as a show breeder.
Caring for a dog is far more expensive than paying that amount for a puppy.