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04-19-2011, 04:54 PM | #1 |
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| To stud out or Not? Hi Everyone! I am new to YT and addicted already!! I will be getting my Jax on Easter and so excited to bring him home! One question I have been pondering is to use him as a stud or not. When I was there to visit him my breeder asked if we were going to get him neutered. We told her probably, and she asked if we don't can she use him as a stud. Which made me think, what are the advantages of getting him fixed, if I do how old should he be or at least by what age, and what benefits should I expect if we do use him for a stud? I know this is the least of my worries right now but just curious! Thanks Erin Last edited by Erinschlssr; 04-19-2011 at 04:55 PM. |
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04-19-2011, 04:58 PM | #2 |
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| I will let those that have a lot more knowledge than me reply to that, but I would get him fixed. If not, you will have a 17 year old Steve on your hands..... Only breed for the betterment of the breed, not to just have a litter to sell. I will not even ask about Champions, etc. |
04-19-2011, 05:17 PM | #3 |
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| The breeder doesn't even know how the dog will look at maturity and is already asking to use him as a stud. The fact that she is selling to you on full registration raises a lot of red flags for me. Reputable breeders will not sell on full registration to just anyone, especially not one new to yorkies. But back to your question. Dogs used as studs are hard to have as pets. Everytime there is a female in heat they go crazy. They will mark on everything all the time. Additionally, all pets that are spayed or neutered early will have much less chance of ever getting certain cancers. Neuter your dog and enjoy him as a loving pet. I think the best time to spay/neuter is around 8mos old. If there are any retained baby teeth, the vet will extract them at the same time. Too early and they can have retained baby teeth come in after, and cause crooked teeth, in turn bad breath.
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04-19-2011, 05:19 PM | #4 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | The advantages to neutering are that he will be less likely to mark in your house, he won't be constantly seeking a female in heat, lessens the risk of prostrate cancer. Neutering in animal shelters is being done very early but generally 6-8 months is thought to be best. Also, a side note....most reputable breeders will require you to neuter/spay a pet. Any breeder that would ask for you to allow your pet to be a stud, wouldn't be a breeder I could recommend.
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04-19-2011, 05:23 PM | #5 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member | If your breeder is trying to get you to agree to stud him out, RUN! At this point, she has no clue whether or not he is even breed-worthy or healthy enough to breed.
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04-19-2011, 05:37 PM | #6 |
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| Something that many people don't think about when posed with idea of breeding is that the major advantage of getting a dog neutered is to NOT contribute to the dog over population problem in North America. Please read this article to see what happens to MILLIONS of dogs each year in America alone... My Name is Sam » Life With Dogs good luck with your new puppy and welcome to YT! we love pictures here so post some when you get the little guy |
04-19-2011, 05:47 PM | #7 |
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| She didn't highly recommend me to use him as a stud she just put it out there that if I don't get him fixed that it can maybe be a possibility. She said it is your dog and you do what you want. Thanks for everyones input, it is nice to get different views. |
04-19-2011, 05:48 PM | #8 |
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| Another poster on another thread about having a stud dog reported that a stud dog is not the best of pets at all times for reasons you can imagine. I have heard breeders say very similar things. Consider these things besides the issues of poor breeding practices of many breeders and the many health problems they can loose on the Yorkie population and the liklihood that an intact male might accidentally mate. Why not keep your pet for just that - a little fun, loving pet and companion.
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04-19-2011, 06:20 PM | #9 |
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| He'll be a better pet for you if you neuter him. You will also be lowering his cancer risk in later years. He won't be marking, therefore, you won't need to use belly bands. Also, he won't be chasing every female in heat within a mile.
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04-19-2011, 06:31 PM | #10 |
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| ARe you aware of breeder's rights? Yep! You will not be receiving a stud fee from the breeder. It's commonly known that the breeder always retains the rights to use a dog for stud.
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04-19-2011, 06:44 PM | #11 | |
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Is he healthy and of high quality? Good lines? You don't have to neuter right away, wait and see how he turns out. Maybe your breeder knew he might have a possibility of turning out breed-worthy. Most breeders won't guarantee a pup breed worthy but many can often guess at the potential early on. I think it pays to wait as so many spay and neuter so young the opportunity to add to the betterment of the breed gets lost when once it's discovered they would have been good for breeding but can't due to being spay/neutered, while so many unworthy dogs are put out there for breeding, diminishing the breed's quality. Only you and your breeder know what you have. If you don't have an unspayed female in the house he won't act to crazy when he comes of age.
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04-19-2011, 07:11 PM | #12 |
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| I want to thank you for your great response. That was what I was looking for. This was the first post I have put on here and it seems to me that people are quick to judge. I feel I have a reputable breeder and I have done my research and she has met all the qualities/requirements. I am not just some girl that wants an accessory but an addition to our family! The mom of my puppy had passed away after giving birth and having to have an emergency c-section and never recovered from the anesthesia and the breeder I think wanted to keep the line going. Thanks again |
04-20-2011, 06:10 AM | #13 | |
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04-20-2011, 06:26 AM | #14 |
No Longer a Member | I don't think a stud dog would be very fun to live with in a pet home. I had Rizzo neutered at 10 months old, he didn't require any baby teeth extractions, and I have only see him lift his leg once. And that was outside and on a curb, he potty trained to the piddle pads with a quickness and I don't worry about him missing and hitting the wall instead. Not to mention I've pretty much reduced his prostate cancer risk by 99.9999%, he never tries to run away, and is non-aggressive as can be. I recommend neutering him since he's going to be a pet, but wait until he's between 9-12 months old so you can have his baby teeth removed at the same time if he needs it. Just my opinion! |
04-20-2011, 06:36 AM | #15 | |
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You mentioned keeping the line going; what does this mean to you? Is there a certain look to the dogs, does this line produce great representations of the breed? If yes, that's wonderful, however to continue the process you'll have to study, attend genetic classes , attend breeding classes to learn the ins and outs of breeding and breeding the right dogs.
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