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Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades
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| ![]() At least this one is fairer in the no docking argument...just saying. Notice a vet is doing it too. They do not numb the pup in this, but this is the proper procedure. YouTube - Tail Docking and Dew Claw Removal in 2 Day-Old Pups:Torture or Not? I posted link and not video, it's not horrid but may be disturbing to some.
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♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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| ![]() My Tibbe sounded like that when I first tried to brush him or clip his toenails. He was almost feral when I first got him and had apparently only had very few things done to him in his lifetime so he yelped and yelped at everything I tried to do in the way of grooming. Only with a lot of love, patience and persistence did Tibbe learn that grooming was not scary or painful and he fairly quickly quit crying out and yelping during grooming sessions and of course now, snoozes through his brushing. Most dogs are very stoic with severe pain issues and you will see them mostly suffer serious, prolonged pain in total silence; but sudden or sharp pain, anything that pulls a dog's hair, restrains them for long(especially puppies) or scares them will almost always elicit repetitive yelping. There is no doubt tail docking/dew claw removal elicits some pain but without sophisticated nervous system development as newborns, their ability to perceive continued pain is absent. I would rather my Tibbe have his tail docked as a newborn than take the chance of a serious injury as an older dog when he really will suffer for a prolonged period of time. What I worry about more than newborns getting tails docked are older dogs with fully developed nervous systems that have injuries or have surgery with sutures/staples in place sent home with no pain medication and because they are not yelping as the puppies in that video, it is just assumed by one and all that they are not in pain and they must suffer their entire recuperation in pain and silence!!!
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Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FL
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I am not all "for" docking but did it to comply with standard. If the standard changed, I would not have a problem with that either. I personally like the look of a docked yorkie tail -- but that is because that is what I am used to. I am sure I would love the full tail if that is what mine had. Like I said before, I do admire the ones I see here! I just think people should understand a properly docked tail on a newborn (3 days old) is not a traumatic painful event for a pup. It is not the same in all animals and is definately not the same for an older dog. If a pup cannot be docked before their 5th day, then it should not be done or only done under anesthetic for a particular medical reason. After the 5th day, little by little the pup's pain perceptions are maturing and it would hurt too much. I have read that a day or two can make a world of difference. So, if it is to be done -- schedule it for Day 3!! (That is just to not separate them at all from momma or take out to the vet those first 2 crucial days of life).
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