Shame + Shady Breeder = Beginning 2 Regret...

[silverjoy]

Good Luck today!!!! So excited for you!!! Keep us posted!!!

[FlDebra]

BTW -- I wanted to make sure you know I am not sticking up for this breeder at all -- I would pass just because of her shipping a 10 week old puppy. (I keep seeing images in my mind of that little one shivering and shaking in the cargo hold today, scared out of its little mind at the noise and lack of human contact!) I just wanted to make the point of which things should really be the major concern -- the puppy's welfare and not the frequency of daily phone calls.

[Lil Sis]

I wish you the best of luck and can't wait to see pictures!!!!

[MyLovelyNiko]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

BTW -- I wanted to make sure you know I am not sticking up for this breeder at all -- I would pass just because of her shipping a 10 week old puppy. (I keep seeing images in my mind of that little one shivering and shaking in the cargo hold today, scared out of its little mind at the noise and lack of human contact!) I just wanted to make the point of which things should really be the major concern -- the puppy's welfare and not the frequency of daily phone calls.

The puppy was NOT shipped as cargo...NOT!
He had a caring lady waiting by his side the entire time. She hand delivered him once I arrived at the airport.

[BabyGirl Rosie]

Originally Posted by MyLovelyNiko

The puppy was NOT shipped as cargo...NOT!
He had a caring lady waiting by his side the entire time. She hand delivered him once I arrived at the airport.

Awesome!!! Can't wait to see pictures!

[yorkietalkjilly]

So glad I checked before shutting the laptop and found that your wait is over and Niko is home! Thank goodness and how exciting to have your new baby. Have a wonderful weekend though you probably won't get much rest! Ha! Tibbe and I send hugs for baby Niko. I pray he lights up your life as Yorkies are want to do!

[EsmeeKimme]

So glad he arrived safe and sound to you. Looking forward to those pictures!!

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by MyLovelyNiko

The puppy was NOT shipped as cargo...NOT!
He had a caring lady waiting by his side the entire time. She hand delivered him once I arrived at the airport.

Glad to hear he has arrived safely! I would love to hear about this airline that transports the pups in the cabin. Was the lady by his side an airline employee or someone who paid for their ticket to ride along? This would be a great service if offered by the airline and quite an improvement over what normally happens if not escorted by someone. Would love to hear the details!! Please let us know the airline!

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by MyLovelyNiko

The puppy was NOT shipped as cargo...NOT!
He had a caring lady waiting by his side the entire time. She hand delivered him once I arrived at the airport.

Glad to hear it...if things work out hope you could recommend the breeder to everyone here...finding a good breeder is hard those who are ethical, responsible, product quality, healthy pups should be talked about as much as the adverse...

[MyLovelyNiko]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I am going to be devil's advocate here -- Reading through your post it really seems like this lady has bent over backwards accomodating your need for excessive contact. In your own words she has spent hours on the phone with you, daily emails, plethora of photos documenting the pups progress, shared grooming & show tips, and she has not refused to do anything you asked. You even say that this is only a synopsis of your "courtship." So who knows how much communication has actually gone back and forth?

She had a death in the family and was a little later than you wanted on getting some MORE information sent to you and for that you are going to create doubt about a breeder on a public forum? I know you didn't name her here, but you've already shared by PM and it will get out eventually. I would ask yourself if maybe, just maybe, you have gone a little beyond the normal buyer to breeder contact? I certainly never had that much communication with anyone before buying their puppies. I would never have presumed to take that much of their life.

The only things I can see this person did wrong was to allow a puppy to leave her momma before 12 weeks and not make her contract/health guarantee part of her public website. Some people are still old school and not with the modern recommendations of keeping puppies a MINIMUM of 12 weeks. I also do not personally agree with shipping puppies unless in the cabin WITH a courier. (She can tell you the pup is not going to be in the cargo hold, but how many times have you seen a dog in the cabin of an aircraft unless they are travelling WITH someone and kept under the seat WITH them. The pup is going in cargo -- just a separate corner of the cargo hold.) For those questions, sure -- ask away and get opinions here. But when you have had THIS MUCH interaction with a breeder prior to getting your puppy, I sure would not panic because she wanted to attend a funeral before sending your paperwork. Concentrate on the things that are priorities -- like the age of the pup being shipped solo! That is the thing that is the most critical component of this whole thread IMO. I can live with a couple less phone calls than I wanted but not with taking a risk of removing the pup too early from the mother and shipping without escort -- but it seems these things don't bother you at all. It seems like misplaced priorities to me.

Hoping not to alienate you with my honesty but I thought it would be good for you to read "the other side" of the coin and think about your priorities as you begin this wonderful challenge of puppy ownership. It is a huge responsibility and one that is well-rewarded.

Today is the day your little one is supposed to arrive, so I guess there will be no changing that factor now. I do hope all goes well. You sound like a person that will devote yourself to your little one as it deserves. Just try hard to set priorities of what is most important to your PUP'S health and welfare. That is what is important! Be sure to bring some Nutrical with you to the airport! Good luck to you both and I hope he becomes a special member of your family!

I appreciate your opinion but I would have to say that you have NO IDEA what you are speaking of. Everyone has a different experience and expect different things from someone that will impact their lives forever. If you do not talk to your breeder about everything, then that's your personal preference. I like to be well informed... and if I were expecting a child I would do the same with my doctor, midwife, lactation specialist, etc. Why? Because to me, my "pup" is my child esp. considering the fact that I do not have children. Niko will forever be a part of my life, long after his is over. I am committed to him and his welfare. The first thing I would like to mention is things had began "appearing" shady WAY before a death in a family. If you had an issue with what I said here then why did you not mention it in the PM you sent? I have no problem with people sharing their opinion but what does irk me is when they are NOT informed enough to make a meaningful argument about the situation. (Perhaps, I did not reveal enough details or maybe wasn't specific enough...needless to say, I don't have the time or energy to type the entire "courtship" on a public forum.) I came here merely for suggestions and information. I quickly typed up what was happening at that moment. And if a breeder says that you can call anytime, I wouldn't think me calling once or twice a week would be worrisome. In fact, I would thank the heavens for blessing me with someone who cares to hear about their pup's development...you and I differ and there is nothing wrong with that. But as I mentioned before, the pup WAS NOT CARGO. I didn't even go near the cargo section to pick him up and was well informed about his condition throughout the duration of his flight, even when they arrived a tad earlier than I expected. He received Nutri-Cal as soon as I got him.

And of course I was worried about the condition of the pup...why else would I call her for a weekly update? Ask about how she is socializing him with various "types" of people. (Women, men, children, etc.) Why else would I ask about the feeding schedule and type of food, and shot records, and vet visits. I CARE...if I didn't I wouldn't waste time searching yorkietalk about various information...there would be no point. Yes, the pup came at 10 weeks but I am not going to reject the pup that I fell in love with to run away from the breeder b/c of a 2 week difference. If she didn't want him of course I will take him. There are plenty of people that have gotten pups @ 8 wks. I shouldn't be the "bad guy" because of my breeders decision.

And as far as priorities are concerned...please don't disrespect me by saying they are misplaced. YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE...YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ME IF I WALKED UP AND SHOOK YOUR HAND. That was rude, and for someone to be so highly regarded on YT, that took me by surprise. I pray you well, not sure if I will continue to be on this site, I have done nothing wrong to deserve talk like that, and hurt my feelings, it did. But I can assure you regardless of my status here, Niko will be well taken care of.

THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HAVE BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE AND HELPFUL INCLUDING FIDebra. I TRULY APPRECIATE IT!

[concretegurl]

MylovelyNiko, Deb means well, she and I definitely got off on the wrong foot too. Sometimes personalities and ways of expressing thoughts and opinions can be taken and meant in very different ways...IMHO...a lot of reactions like that come from people reading a lot of posts like this and knowing how they sometimes end...

It's unfortunate, but I think if you (and I personally really hope you do!) stick around here long enough you'll find you read the OP statement often and you already know how it's going to end (it shouldn't be like that but often it is) it's rare you see things unfold with a "non-typical outcome"

That's such a horrid thing to say! I was on here about a year and some before I ever posted...and you really see the same thing over and over after awhile-it's a pleasant surprise to see things turn out well for everyone! So glad they did for you!

[KazzyK810]

Originally Posted by MyLovelyNiko

I pray you well, not sure if I will continue to be on this site, I have done nothing wrong to deserve talk like that, and hurt my feelings, it did.

Congratulations on lil Niko arriving safely . Please don't let a bad post or two scare you away. There's a lot to be learned here and most people are pretty helpful and friendly.

Would love to see pics of Niko. My puppy is 15 weeks old & already getting big. They grow fast & take alot of work, but the puppy stage is so much fun!!!

[KimSie13]

I am so sorry for You and Your situation. And in a way I understand Your feelings. I'm sure things will work outonce You get Your Puppy and He's healthy and I'm sure He's going to be so happy in a Home who loves Him as much as You already do. My Only concern is He's being taken from His mother early. But only because My Little Mitsi came to Me at just seven or eight weeks after She was born. I was a first time Yorkie buyer and I did not know anybetter. But all I knew is I picked Her up and She looked at Me like We were supposed to Meet and I had to have Her. She is still a little tricky learning to potty in the right places and She Loves other Dogs but Her socal skills arnt the best. But She is improving so its possiable to correct the early seperation. I wish You all the best and am super excited to see pictures of Nicco when You get Him!!

[mzwit51]

I've been holding my breathe reading your posts. I am so glad things seem to be changing for the goodand you seem more assured. Good luck with him!

[MyLovelyNiko]

I am trying to upload the photos of Aniko to YT but can't. It says that it exceeds the limit but I really don't know what I should do to reduce the size. I have a Mac and the photos are in my iPhoto App, if that makes a difference.