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I would like to thank everyone for their advice and support. I have reached a settlement with the breeder out of court. |
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Did you get to keep you pup through the settlement? |
In process of buying a female Yorkie from this breeder Junoline, I am in the process of buying a female Yorkie from her also. I gave her a deposit on 2-22-11. She said I could pick her up on 3-19. When i called her today to see if I could pick her up on Friday 3-18 as were would be traveling to riverside and back to blythe, in order to save a trip over on Sat. 3-19. She hemmed and hawed, wouldn't give me a straight answer. Please email me, i will give you my phone number and maybe we can find someway to get our money back. She was also a little cagey when I gave her the money on the 22nd. She wouldn't look me in the face. She kept looking down. Did you see the mommy? i knew I should have followed my gut feeling and backed out. Please contact me. |
Apparently she refunds deposits...might also be worth just cutting your losses now... Quote:
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I am a first time yorkie owner and I got my girl out of the paper. I talked to the lady we bought her from prior to buying her. Even added her to my facebook, saw pictures of Mom & Dad who is listed on her APRI registered certificate. Minnie is pure bred, and looks nothing like your pup. She looks like every YT on here excluding the Parti YT. I personally do not believe that your pup is pure bred. I am sorry that you got ripped off. Only thing you can do is love the pup and if you want to take her to small claims court you can. Hugs. |
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Wow, honestly I'm surprised they refunded the full amount and let you keep your dog...maybe because they knew they had committed fraud in the first place...I expected to hear you got to keep your pup and like half refunded at best. Good deal I guess...beyond belief, one point for the right thing finally being done and good for them for refunding you in full over it..suppose in all reality the pup is completely worthless to them and considering the breeding would be a "free to good home" situation...but I'm really kind of surprised about the whole outcome. Quote:
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I am glad you are keeping Nibbler! Sorry you have had to endure this. When we don't get the dog we wanted it is such a mixed blessing situation. Of course you bond with them and want the best for them, but they are not the dog you had decided upon and in many cases a person really cannot manage getting yet another dog (space, housing regs, vet bills, etc.), so this prevents getting the desired breed for many years. I know any dog is loved and becomes part of the family but many of us have had the dream of owning a Yorkie for years and to have that put out of reach is so unfair. I still do not think there is any excuse for this situation. The puppy is so obviously NOT a purebred yorkie, no breeder should sell it that way. She HAD TO KNOW! No one is that oblivious! And if she is, she has no business breeding. A breeder has a responsibility to be knowledgable about the breed! Nowhere in her posts did I read that she would remove the two dogs from her breeding program or even DNA check them and her other breeding dogs. She says she gets "reasonably priced" dogs, sells them for low prices ($300 - $400) and still makes a profit. As Gemy so eloquently wrote, that is just IMPOSSIBLE if you are taking the right precautions in breeding, to include all pre-mating health tests. This breeder also made a comment about breeding pets instead of show dogs. Seriously, all breeders should be breeding to the standard! You make sure both sire and dam are within breed standard and then some of the pups might not be show quality but they are at least close to standard! There is no breeding for pets vs breeding for show. If the dam and sire are not close enough to standard to show, they should not be bred. I would say anyone selling yorkies for less than $900 sends a red flag. On further investigation, you might find they are doing the right things and selling good puppies from good parents. But....it should at least send up a red flag to be further investigated. Always google the breeder and do some due diligence on her sales history and reputation. I would not let one sour post spoil a breeder, but when she is no longer allowed to show 2 different breeds with AKC and there are numerous complaints online easily found in a google search, that pretty well sends enough red flags to turn me the other way. I made the same mistake first time around so in no way am I saying anything against any buyers! We tend to trust the breeders, especially ones that have been in business a long time. But I have learned the hard way too. My very first "yorkie" was a cute curly haired muppet that had several deviations from standard. I spayed her and loved her madly but she was really not what I had wanted for so long. Next time around, I really looked long and hard. Made myself NOT take the first adorable puppy I saw, even made myself NOT go look until I was satisfied with what I found about the breeder. Don't trust blindly -- do research and make sure! Helping spread the word with your thread is good for all! Thanks for sharing your painful experiences in this thread. It makes for a very good learning tool. |
RE: Crystal Hardacker This woman is a piece of work. She moves from California to Colorado to Washington to Oregon. There's no telling how many people she has scammed. I got most of my deposit back. She sent it thru PayPal and charged me the fee. I have been reporting her all over the websites that she has her ads posted on. Thanks Junoline, I hope you find a puppy soon. Anastacea, enjoy your puppy is adorable. Glad you got your money back also. |
I also have been given a refund, without conformation of breed type. So, there is a chance that she is a mix of something else. He said possibly Silky or something like it. The sample from Macy is currently being processes, I will know in the next couple weeks! |
Following this and had to join. This lady is just one of millions of dumb backyard hobby breeders that have no clue what lines they are breeding!!! PEOPLE DO NOT BUY CHEAP YORKIES FORM PUPPY FIND OR NEWPAPER ADS!!!! Go to a dog show and meet breeders that know there lines and breed for standards. They will cost much more, but you get what you pay for. I am shocked also this lady actually refunds deposits and gives money back and lets keep puppies. Lots of these breeders once they have your money it is impossible to even get ahold of them ever again. I have been to court over this after buying mix that was sold as pure from another breeder, and puppy is considered merchindise and you will get puppy or money back, never both. |
Define BYB...she is also breeding AKC registered dogs, CKC registered on these, has previously been both a show dog owner, handler and breeder associated with the AKC-it is my understanding from reading some tings online-she was banned from showing by the AKC, and was suspended from registering litters with them due to multiple infractions-whatever that means but I read one of them was attempting to show mix breed dogs. Google her... Quote:
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Just wanted to chime in and say congrats on getting your money back and being able to keep your puppy in a better home with you vs. back at the breeder! |
Well,I happen to come across this site about this lady you all referring to as Crystal Hardacker,After reading these threads I wrote her back asking for my $ 250.00 deposit back on the dog chco/parti up on puppy find.com.I was buying him for my son whom has cancer and St.Jude says dogs are great therapy dogs for kids with cancer, Volunteers even come with dogs there to visit the kids.So my son wanted one again and well i had been talking with her about this one and she said she needs to sell him cause she has to leave for well she said this to me in my e-mail......... [COLOR="DarkRed"][B]hi i am going out to california on the 15th of november and will be there for a long while as my work needs me there is the problem.. i really need to send him this next week of november 5th-11th.i do not know the area very well to send him from there is the problem. [/B I asked her to give me til next Friday due to my son being the hospital,he got electrocuted so he had lost feeling in his right side of his body,as siting here in the room i was looking on the internet about Yorkie talk and found this site.So i wrote after i read all this and asking for my deposit back and well she responded by stating in her own words.... hi ok will be fine. i just have to leave due to work. next wednesday is all. if worse come to worse it could be saturday. i will make arrangements for friday on delta. you can just send the 375.00. i have been using a firend of mines paypal account as i have not been able to get one set up for me. my name is crystal lynn. he name is crystal Hardacker. she as well raises yorkies i do not know if you were wondering about the different last names and not sure if i told you yet or not.anyway he is doing well. not sure she will give it back or not,but i trusted her.....if you to view his current pics to tell me your opinion just reply i would like your advice PLEASE..PLEASE... |
Well now this has been a very interesting thread. . . . I am happy for those of you who were able to settle with this breeder. She seems very sincere in her apologies and that she thought she had pure bred sire and dam. I'm just not sure I belive her. I'm curious: Out of the three of you who received non pure breed pups from this women. Where they from the same litter ? Where they from the same sire and dam ? Did any of you ever see both the parents ? |
You know I not coming on here hurt anyone, just want to know if she was that of the same lady. She e-mailed me back today saying...I feel so bad I thought she was the same lady... I'm just showing her response to show I was mistaken and she was not the same lady. But she never told me when I sent her money through pay pal it said Crystal Hardacker, not Crystal Lynn well she puts me straight sorta speak here. Was I wrong for assuming this was her? Her e-mail to me******* hi first of all my name is*CRYSTAL LYNN*not*CRYSTAL HARDACKER .CRYSTAL HARDACKER is a good friend of mine who*i used her paypal account as i do not have one.i had thought you knew that from the beggining as you said paypal would be easiest for you.*she is a good friend of mine who i*have worked with for a few years now.i will stand by her and defend her as she is a good person .she raises yorkie too.THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HER ARE NOT HER FAULT.*she bought 2 yorkies*- male and female who were golden colored*yorkies from a breeder who told her they were purebred* registered yorkies. she did get ARP*papers from*the breeder* for the yorkies too.i personally saw the yorkies and yes they l;ook purebred to me how was anyone to know?*she bred the 2 yorkies together had a litter of puppies from them and sold them. one of the ladys who bought*a puppy had said she did a mail in dna and the puppy was a mixed breed..*these kind of dnas have been found out to be invalid. i have always been told to dna with the registry companies such as AKC, ARP, CKC or ACA. the lady did not use*them she used some mail in one by who knows what company possibly even a scamm copmany. Crystal hardacker*still did right by*this lady*by agreeing to take the puppy back and refund* her money to her. she also*did not breed the yorkies who produced that puppy*again- she put them in*a pet home.just to let you know that lady who bought the puppy has,*according to other breeders, tried to get free yorkies from them in the past too by making up stories.i thought you were chrisitian and from what i learned in church you should never believe in or *take part in gossip.it only ends up*with bads things happening.*i have been honest with you and done what i can to work with you but yet you find a gossip column on someone and immediately put fault without knowing the whole story. this is not the christian way and*i do not refund on deposits, i held him for you and this is not even me!!!i know 2 other crystals as well- it is a common name but look up my*name if you**WANT TO KNOW GOSSIP ON ME IT IS CRYSTAL LYNN!!!*please get my correct name before putting blame on me. |
I wrote her back and with apologizes. And I do feel bad for what I wrote on here. The pay pal acct said Crystal Hardacker. I never learned different til today...please forgive me |
I wrote her back apologizing for my mistake and I want to say sorry for posting this. Her pay pal I sent money too said money sent to Crystal Hardacker. Not Crystal Lynn so I assumed it was her. Again my apologies for this. |
i did not read all the replies due to the big number, but incase you do read my reply . i am not a yorkie expert either, but she really looks like a beautiful & healthy mix to me. :):):):):):):):) |
ohhhhh went back & looked @ a few more posts guess this is settled. enjoy her she looks awesome, but stinks that you had to be put thru all this, ridiculous!! |
LILCAT get your money back or chalk it up to lost $ in a learning experience! Contact hospital's social worker, they should give you recourse to a therapy dog trainer or on how you can get a therapy dog for your son. A certified trained, therapy dog. Yorkie's are not generally good with children, considering your situation, really consider a therapy dog that comes trained, etc not a puppy from a breeder whom has been known to be unscrupulous. Or Google therapy dogs in your area or contact your local humane society...in the least consider a dog not a puppy! Try rescue of an appropriate breed for your family. |
What I find funny about this is the fact that Crystal Hardacker/Cyrstal Lynn claims she didnt know that her breeding pair werent pure, yet the OP's pup is a silky/shih tzu mix!!!! Ok, a silky I can see someone confusing for a yorkie, but a shih tzu?? REALLY?!?!? Run from this woman!! I highly doubt Crystal Lynn is a different person, and even if she is, she is defending a BYB!! Therefore in my eyes as just as lousy of a breeder as the other Crystal |
Wow.... Long read.... I'm betting the two crystals are the same person!! I would run..as fast as you can!!! |
When I Googled her both names come up after she lost AKC registration rights because of issues with mixes being registered as purebreds (i.e. fraud already determined by the AKC) suddenly there are two different crystals not one maiden & married name crystal...I could recheck or someone else could just use Google too in this day and age it's soooo easy to find out who people really are using the internet. |
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Run and dont look back.. . Fraud Really, wow ! People are going to this women looking for pure breed Yorkies and are ending up with mutts !! People who grow to love these little guys while all the while thinking they are getting what they paid for. Thats totaly messed up. This women should have her breeding rights taken away or my goodness just sell the pups as mixed. There is a market for these designer dogs as they call them. Just Be Honest . . . I think she knew darn well what she was doing and that these were mixed pups. Especially if this was not the first time, same litter, same parents situation. This had to of been brought to her attention before now. |
Google search / White pages: Crystal L Hardacker (Lynn) This women has 9 aliases. http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/peo...hardacker.html Free People Search | WhitePages Search Results - PeopleFinders.com I beleive the two Crystals are one in the same. |
:2popkorn: Just sittin back with this thread.... |
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