I'm sorry that Poppy is younger than she was supposed to be:( I know how much you've been looking forward to finally bringing her home, too!

You're doing great, and with all the experienced breeders here, you and Poppy should be just fine;) She's very lucky to have ended up with someone like you, who cares and is doing all they can to learn how to keep her thriving;) I'm scared for any other young pups that this guy is selling, though:( What if they end up with someone who doesn't know what to do, and has no one to ask?!?! There are a lot of people that know nothing about hypoglycemia, or keeping them warm, etc:( Gosh, this guy is SO WRONG:cry:!

Keep up the good work, Poppy's new mommy! :love:

Okay let me think.. are her gums pink n moist? You can dip a bit of your milk subsitute on your finger and just put your baby finger in her mouth, also you can do this with water too.. Soon as she wakes up again. Hold her cuddle her pet her then wet your finger put into her mouth. She may lick the fluids off. Be prepared with your nutrical and dip baby finger in it and put in mouth if she won't eat.
In two hours if she isn't awake wake her up cuddle her and offer water n food.

Thank you. What should i do through the night? i am taking the crate into my bedroom and putting it beside my bed incase she wakes up. Should i feed her at least once through the night like someone said? All she has done tonight is sleep. She looks like a little mouse all curled up in her bed lol. I am going to try upload some pictures now of her. xxx

Okay I said feed her once through the night. Mary Mardelin said 5x per day.

It's close to bedtime there in England for both of you 11 pm or so, she ate twice since you got her home, maybe twice at the breeders, so yes, feed her in you can about 2-3am your time just to be safe. Also offer water, you can prepare the food cover it with plastic wrap, and there ya go, when your alarm goes off you don't have to go to the kitchen to prepare food :)

ok thank you. me an poppy off to bed now ty for ur help. i'll check back in tomorrow morning. genes an beamers mum your life savers. xxxxxxxxxxx

Im so sorry you need to follow Mary's advice to the letter she is a WONDEFUL mentor my girls HATES nutrical so i used to melt it ( it melts very well ) and give it to them by syringe melt it let it cool and try mixing it in with the milk if i were you ide use the goats milk idea from mary. be VERY VERY careful as your squirting things into her mouth it is quite easy for them to inhale it and then you will have pneumonia on your hands and that could be deadly in a pup her size. Penny and Sienna send gentle nuzzles and sweet puppy kisses to poppy ..hang in there

At 3 to 4 weeks body temperature should be at 100 degrees....and a pup should already be retaining their own body temp.

Potting reflexes are in place by 4 weeks of age.

Play sessions shouldn't be started until 8 weeks of age. All pups should need between birth and 6 weeks of age is mom. Do not overly handle as this is can cause hyperglycemia. If you can, and I don't what you'd call it in England, but in the states we keep NutriCal and/or NutriDrops on hand.

Luckily she has NutriCal:)

It really burns me up that this breeder sold a puppy this young. Luckily Furbutt is trying to do all the right things for Poppy. I dread to think what would have happened if Poppy had been sold to someone irresponsible:animal-pa

Sorry guys, I haven't been feeling well today and have spent most of the day sleeping.

There is a sticky in the Breeding Section for Whelping Pudding. I've had tremendous luck with this recipe feeding tinies like this pup. You might want to try that.

A bit of caution with the NutriCal. I usually only give about a 1/2 inch in the morning and another 1/2 inch about mid morning. Don't over do, cause it can bring on a hyperglycemic attack and administering too much can contribute to diabitis.

Sorry to hear you are unwell Mary. Poppy's mom has gone to bed now it is about midnight in England. She knows to keep her warm she will get up once tonight to feed her.

So hopefully Mom and Pup will sleep well tonight.

Well it appears that there are BYBers in the UK too. Geez when does it stop.

Never Mary as it appears. this poor young woman asked all the questions, investigate, got so much on hand for her pup. I'm just weeping right now. She was so happy and now she is scared. she has read so many threads on here about young pups and the dangers. She immediately came on here to post when she found her registration papers that indicate that she was born in July sigh.

Beamers Mom posted the link for her on UK law around pups. This breeder is in contravention. But for now. we get her through tomorrow and Monday.
<Monday dog goes to vet.

Oh gosh you wouldn't believe!! I heard of breeders that would have a dog with a great pedigree with some champion lines and a dog that didn't have champion lines. When the second dog had puppies, the breeder would register the pups with the Kennel club as offspring of the dog with the better pedigree. There are unscrupulous breeders in the UK as well as here.

I guess there are BYB's and disreputable breeders all over the world. And as long as uneducated (as far as dogs go) people will buy the puppies they will continue to stay in business.

I think Furbutt should report the breeder to the RSPCA as it is a form of animal abuse selling puppies too young.

Sylvia

I know some breeders on here on YT that do the same thing. Dogs that come from unregistered parents put on litter registrations of AKC parents.....

I didn't mean both dogs weren't registered. But to get more money they would register the puppies as offspring of the one with the better pedigree.

Those type of breeders are what you call pedigree hunters. That's how they advertise their pups; Championed sired....Champion lines, it's away to fool the unsuspecting public.

What you described is done here all the time....but, just let the AKC come in and do a DNA check...they'll be suspended for life and all those pedigrees will mean nothing.

By the time the pup is a year old, isn't it obvious that they don't resemble the registered parents?

You know that can happen anyway, especially if you aren't line breeding and just putting two dogs together.

when i got my lil one she was 12 week old and just 22 oz i got her on a Sunday and she had a vet visit on Monday my vet was not a happy vet because she wa so small he had me feed her every 30 minutes
for a week i to was so scared but with a lot of TLC and missed sleep
she is now 3 pounds and will be a year old on the 16 of Aug. and thank God she is very healthy. so with Furbutt as her mommy
lil poppy is in good hands so i'm sending prayers and hugs :love-hug1 your
way from South Carolina :lovewings:lovewings:lovewings:lovewings

Pat

Thank you everone so so much.

Last night i was so upset and very VERY scared. I dunno what i would have done without u all, i cant say i big enough thank you. We went to bed last night and Poppy went right to sleep. I set my alarm for 2.30am and i went off to sleep myself. She woke up at 1.45am crying. Haha she has a right little howl on her..... good set of lungs lol :D. I gave her a syringe of milk, she didnt want any tho but i got it into her. She went right back off to sleep after a cuddle and woke up a few times but i just talked to her and she seemed ok. She woke up about 7am this morning and i tried to get some milk into her but she would have any of it. she seemed ok i think she just wanted a cuddle.

Its now 9.15am I made up some dry food and added hot lactol milk over it and let it go soggy. Then i mashed it up and she has around 4 mouth fulls. I then gave her a syringe full of milk 1.3ml and i also gave her a syringe full of water so she wont get dehydrated. I also put a little nutri cal on my finger and let her chew my finger lol.

She seems to be ok she was just been chewing on her teddys ear lol and growling at it. Now shes gone back off to sleep.

Ok now a few more questions.
1.How much milk per day do i need to be giving her?
2.How much water?
3.How much food per day?

Thank you so much for ALL your help xxx

Natasha good morning it's quite early here in this time zone. Question for you does she drink water on her own? Place a saucer of water out for her when next she wakes up and see if she will drink from it. Let her have as much water as she wants. Ideally she would have something to eat and drink every 3hrs or so.

She will likely only eat a couple of tbsp's of food at one meal. At least 5 meals per day. I would try feeding her every 3hrs or so. And let her eat as much as she wants but try to encourage her to eat at least a tablespoon or two at each meal.

Has she eliminated yet? Pee'd or pooed?

Morning, What time is it over there?

I leave milk out for her but she wont drink it, I'll try some water next time she wakes up. She has not done a wee today, she did two last night one before she went to bed and i think during the night because her bedding was wet so i had to change it this morning. She has not done a wee today tho and she has not had a a poo since she has been here. Shes been here since 5.30pm last night its now 10.30am?? should i be worried? xxx

The time here is 5:30am. Okay next time she wakes up - immediately place her on her wee pad. See if she goes. Let her play a bit in her xpen, or by you on the floor. Puppies life is play, eat, sleep, eliminate :)If she doesn't poo, you can try a warm damp facecloth and wipe her little tummy and butt down, this might help to stimulate her to go poo.

No need to worry right now if she hasn't poo'd yet.

Don't leave milk out it can spoil quite quickly in this heat.

I'm going to try to get a bit more sleep. If you have some more questions you can private message any of the responders on your thread, by clicking on their name and the option to send a private message will pop up. It will also show you if they are online right now, a circle under their name shows green

Eeek 5.30 go get some sleep haha :)

Ok i will make sure next time she wake up to put her on her puppy pad. I tired to giver her some water but she wouldnt drink it? xx

Good morning Natasha. Is Poppy still sleeping?
You are doing a great job looking after your baby.

Keep putting the water on your finger and hold it up to her mouth.

Some reading material if you haven't got to it yet
 

All About Vacccinations .... Dodd

In the YT Library you can print this off and bring to your vet too.

Another update. Poppy is doing fine. She had some milk at 1:30 and i think i am going to feed her ever 4 hours :D She was playing before biting my fingers and climing up my chest to lick my chin and bite my nose haha. What a little stinker. Her breath smells like eggs haha! She is in the middle of having more puppy dreams right now. :) xxx

If she hasn't poo'd, take a cotton ball and soak it with warm water, squeeze some of the water out and massage anus, this should stimulate her to potty.

You might try a pet bottle to give to give her her milk. This will help her satisfy her sucking instincts.

Sometimes I use a sprinkle of Parmasean cheese to entice pups to eat. Something about the stinky smell that they like.

Again there is a sticky in the Breeding Section of this forum. It is the recipe for Whelping Pudding. My pups love this. I use it for my nursing moms and at weaning time. You can also try cottage cheese.

You are fantastic thank you!! Where would i get a pet bottle from? Right i think i will try this thank you ever so much. xxx