Should We Adopt One of Them?

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

You have much more knowledge about these types of things then I do so I will stand corrected. So then they are more like a shelter? My concern would then be people not fully comprehending what they are adopting and also how do you ensure the adoptive family being a good fit with the dogs? They are willing to fly dogs for an additional fee, sight unseen to a new family. There are many people with good intentions but not fully aware of what is really involved regarding the responsibility of adopting a former mill dog.

Do you know if they are involved with this:

100 rescued dogs headed to Anti-Cruelty Society - Chicago Breaking News

No there were not part of the initial rescue but I don't know where all the dogs went...many rescue's probably stepped forward to help American Humane.

Sparta Tenn Puppy Mill

I know it is a tough call on some of these situations and I don't always agree with how some of the rescue's operate but some people are willing to take these challenges on...I would. Now in this case I don't know what their adoption process is really like and while I wish they could do a home visit for every dog (maybe they have volunteers in many states who will) I just realize it can't always be done the perfect way...which is to bad but I am guessing it is a choice of dogs dying or dogs finding homes..might not be good homes..sadly.

There is a big puppy mill rescue in Colorado Springs but this is their headquarters and they have foster homes all around Missouri, Iowa etc..puppymill states..I have seen their cars on the highways transferring dogs (they have a big sign on their car) but I don't know much about them.

I will tell you it has only been the last 4 or 5 years that I have started to see all of these piss poor breeders using the name "rescue" to sell their dogs on puppyfind etc. I think in the past they could sell ice to an eskimo and were making $$$ hand overfist. Now that the economy took a hit we are now seeing this happening time after time using the name rescue.

I can see where you came to your conclusion but you almost have to take a situation case by case. People should be aware puppymill dogs may have behavorial issues and it is not a place to buy a cheap dog but then neither is any rescue. I can only say, shame on people if they don't do their homework. This is a big part of the problem weather you are buying a new puppy or a rescue..

[AddieandMiaMom]

I say, go ahead and adopt a chihuahua. I disagree with some of the postings on here, chihuahuas are just as good with kids as yorkies are. My Mia is a chi, she's on the more timid side, we call her the Little Lady, she even sits with her legs crossed on the side of her body. She's very gentle, and has NEVER tried biting someone. She doesn't even growl at people, and she did not come from a very good home environment when we first got her, the father in that family didn't want her and was mean to her. Of course, we've trained her to be less shy around people. She now goes up to greet people and sniff their hands, when before she would hid behind my legs.

Thanks livingdustmops for clearing up the issues with the rescue.

BTW, when kids come up to us to look at our dogs, they always go to Mia first. Why? Because she's calmly sitting there while Addie is energetically trying to get attention. Dany (our other yorkie) wants nothing to do with kids, but we're working on her social skills. Being a puppy mill survivor, she's got some issues we have to work on.

[Yorkiekids]

My son moved in with a Chi. She is adorable, but really has problems with little kids. I can fully understand her reaction as she is so fragile, and can be hurt so easily. We really try to work with the baby, and for the most part she knows pet the dog nice, but every once in a while the imp comes out in her, and the dog lands up hiding on my lap. Just a little input.

[yorkie_mama22]

I've got 3 dogs and one child as well as a step child. We also have a parrot and a snake. It gets busy and we are young, love to travel and want to have another baby this year. If you've got the heart for it it can be done. I couldn't imagine getting rid of my dogs or parrot, I can imagine getting rid of the snake once it's size is an issue.

I say where theres a will theres a way. We are going on vacation with our family in two weeks for one week. I've got sitters for two dogs and 1 parrot. Still need to verify will my bull terrier will be going. Its much easier to find someone willing to watch your small dogs/animals rather then a big dog.

I do have to agree that alot of families get rid of their pets when babies come home. I think if you don't have experience as a parent it may be hard adjusting to a baby and animals in the house, but I wouldn't change this for the world. Like Shaunna said I just love to have the company of my skin and fur babies all the time!

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

No there were not part of the initial rescue but I don't know where all the dogs went...many rescue's probably stepped forward to help American Humane.

Sparta Tenn Puppy Mill

I know it is a tough call on some of these situations and I don't always agree with how some of the rescue's operate but some people are willing to take these challenges on...I would. Now in this case I don't know what their adoption process is really like and while I wish they could do a home visit for every dog (maybe they have volunteers in many states who will) I just realize it can't always be done the perfect way...which is to bad but I am guessing it is a choice of dogs dying or dogs finding homes..might not be good homes..sadly.

There is a big puppy mill rescue in Colorado Springs but this is their headquarters and they have foster homes all around Missouri, Iowa etc..puppymill states..I have seen their cars on the highways transferring dogs (they have a big sign on their car) but I don't know much about them.

I will tell you it has only been the last 4 or 5 years that I have started to see all of these piss poor breeders using the name "rescue" to sell their dogs on puppyfind etc. I think in the past they could sell ice to an eskimo and were making $$$ hand overfist. Now that the economy took a hit we are now seeing this happening time after time using the name rescue.

I can see where you came to your conclusion but you almost have to take a situation case by case. People should be aware puppymill dogs may have behavorial issues and it is not a place to buy a cheap dog but then neither is any rescue. I can only say, shame on people if they don't do their homework. This is a big part of the problem weather you are buying a new puppy or a rescue..

I just checked again and the 100 "designer dogs" that are coming to Chicago on Friday are from that mill bust.

It makes me insane how some of these mills are now using Petfinder as a sneaky way to peddle their dogs. Goes to show just how low they will sink to make a buck

[yorkie mad]

I say go for a chi if you want. My 2 yorkies get on really well with my sisters chi. xx

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I just checked again and the 100 "designer dogs" that are coming to Chicago on Friday are from that mill bust.

It makes me insane how some of these mills are now using Petfinder as a sneaky way to peddle their dogs. Goes to show just how low they will sink to make a buck

Ok I am confused...Yes, it was a bust by the American Humane and the Chicago's Anti-cruelty society is taking 100 dogs from that bust...so why do you think a mill is using petfinder? or are you just speaking in genalizations about poor breeders using "rescue" as a way to sell dogs?

[Tanjay]

All three are adorable, if you have asked us the question, in your heart you know you want one, go for it girl

[RachelandSadie]

okay update time:

to clarify a few things for everyone, right now Mike and I aren't planning children for at least 3 more years. We have considered everything about having children mixed with dogs and we have thought it might be too much a few times.

Sadie does "seem" like a one dog kinda girl when it comes to cats and large breed dogs, but she LOVES all her toy breed friends and family so we're sure she'd be ok with the right sister/brother.

Also some may not know this, but i currently work in a vet's office and have the ability to get vet care, grooming, and daycare/boarding at a fraction of the cost that it is for most people. Not to mention for special needs dogs they will go out of their way to make them fit in at the office and help in their care and needs during the day. (Ex. Velvet the Cocker Spaniel, deaf and blind and now our beautiful office dog)

Having said all that as a background for our decisions so far:

We are still talking about this with each other and the person fostering "Taffy", but we are now talking about only being a foster family. We would take Taffy in as a foster, socialize and train her, have all the costs met totally by the rescue group during her stay with us, and turn her over to the right family when they come along. As a foster family, we'd only take 10 lb and under small breed dogs, we wouldn't be very good with heavy shedding dogs, only yorkies, poodles, and short haired toys. We would take ONE at a time until a family is found with each. And should the right dog come along and work perfectly with our Sadie, we may consider adoption at that point. I told the lady that first and foremost is Sadie, if she's not happy with the second addition, we would no longer be able to foster. This is a way to try this all out without making a lifelong commitment to a puppy and then having to change our minds. We can open our home up and love and teach a dog and rescue it from where it is, but it doesn't put us out financially.

What do you think of this idea. We're still debating it between us and trying to decide. With the help of the vet/lodge as an employer and the ability to connect with many rescues and shelters as possible foster parents for those rare toy breeds that come into their shelter, we think this would be a better choice for us and just might work out.

Thanks for the advice, it was all welcomed and was all taken into consideration.

[BunnysMommy]

lynnie = so cute

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

okay update time:

to clarify a few things for everyone, right now Mike and I aren't planning children for at least 3 more years. We have considered everything about having children mixed with dogs and we have thought it might be too much a few times.

Sadie does "seem" like a one dog kinda girl when it comes to cats and large breed dogs, but she LOVES all her toy breed friends and family so we're sure she'd be ok with the right sister/brother.

Also some may not know this, but i currently work in a vet's office and have the ability to get vet care, grooming, and daycare/boarding at a fraction of the cost that it is for most people. Not to mention for special needs dogs they will go out of their way to make them fit in at the office and help in their care and needs during the day. (Ex. Velvet the Cocker Spaniel, deaf and blind and now our beautiful office dog)

Having said all that as a background for our decisions so far:

We are still talking about this with each other and the person fostering "Taffy", but we are now talking about only being a foster family. We would take Taffy in as a foster, socialize and train her, have all the costs met totally by the rescue group during her stay with us, and turn her over to the right family when they come along. As a foster family, we'd only take 10 lb and under small breed dogs, we wouldn't be very good with heavy shedding dogs, only yorkies, poodles, and short haired toys. We would take ONE at a time until a family is found with each. And should the right dog come along and work perfectly with our Sadie, we may consider adoption at that point. I told the lady that first and foremost is Sadie, if she's not happy with the second addition, we would no longer be able to foster. This is a way to try this all out without making a lifelong commitment to a puppy and then having to change our minds. We can open our home up and love and teach a dog and rescue it from where it is, but it doesn't put us out financially.

What do you think of this idea. We're still debating it between us and trying to decide. With the help of the vet/lodge as an employer and the ability to connect with many rescues and shelters as possible foster parents for those rare toy breeds that come into their shelter, we think this would be a better choice for us and just might work out.

Thanks for the advice, it was all welcomed and was all taken into consideration.

Wow, this could be great if you can do it, fostering is really difficult, you socialize the dog, and by the time you get it to be a perfect dog, it's off to live with another family, and you start the process again. To those who have humongous hearts and souls, I say try it, the joy you are giving them and their new family is enormous, and many people can handle a good dog, but just don't know how to train an unruly dog, so it's a win/win situation for the dog and family. If you just can't bare to give up a dog, I do think they make exceptions, but foster families are the best families in the world. I actually think something like this is good for Sadie too, because she doesn't become too dependent on any one dog. Anyway, good luck with your decision, it sounds like you have been carefully thinking things through, and I pray God will guide you with this. Bless you!

[Patti]

I think fostering is a good way to help out and find out if a second dog is a good idea. I fostered a pom puppy last December and I did commit to keeping her until she found a home. I found out I didn't want a puppy again and that fostering was very rewarding but very hard emotionally. It was also hard for my 3 to adjust to. I admire all the people who do this all the time. I decided it was best if I volunteer at the shelter and help with donations when I can but fostering was too hard on me.

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Wow, this could be great if you can do it, fostering is really difficult, you socialize the dog, and by the time you get it to be a perfect dog, it's off to live with another family, and you start the process again. To those who have humongous hearts and souls, I say try it, the joy you are giving them and their new family is enormous, and many people can handle a good dog, but just don't know how to train an unruly dog, so it's a win/win situation for the dog and family. If you just can't bare to give up a dog, I do think they make exceptions, but foster families are the best families in the world. I actually think something like this is good for Sadie too, because she doesn't become too dependent on any one dog. Anyway, good luck with your decision, it sounds like you have been carefully thinking things through, and I pray God will guide you with this. Bless you!

Thank you so much Nancy. your prayers mean more to me than any amount of advice on here. having prayers for the Lord to guide in all decisions we make is the best thing that we can ask for. God will lead us and we will do our best to follow. i'm hoping the decision we make is a good choice and we can stick by it and do our best to rehab the dogs we get and get them into the right family's hands that will love and really care for them for life.

thanks Nancy again!! you have been such a great friend and help to me through this (almost) year.

[Ladymom]

Sounds like a good plan, Rachel.

I just wanted to point out that since you now work at a vet's office, you will come across lot of pets needing new homes. Often when an owner must give up a pet, the vet is the first person they speak to. Also, people turn in injured animals and orphaned kittens to local vets. People die and their families turn pets into the vet for adoption, etc.

My sister managed vet office for many years and was always adopting pets that were turned in. She kept my mom in cats for many years!

I'm sure when and if you decide to add another dog, you won't have to look far!

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

okay update time:

to clarify a few things for everyone, right now Mike and I aren't planning children for at least 3 more years. We have considered everything about having children mixed with dogs and we have thought it might be too much a few times.

Sadie does "seem" like a one dog kinda girl when it comes to cats and large breed dogs, but she LOVES all her toy breed friends and family so we're sure she'd be ok with the right sister/brother.

Also some may not know this, but i currently work in a vet's office and have the ability to get vet care, grooming, and daycare/boarding at a fraction of the cost that it is for most people. Not to mention for special needs dogs they will go out of their way to make them fit in at the office and help in their care and needs during the day. (Ex. Velvet the Cocker Spaniel, deaf and blind and now our beautiful office dog)

Having said all that as a background for our decisions so far:

We are still talking about this with each other and the person fostering "Taffy", but we are now talking about only being a foster family. We would take Taffy in as a foster, socialize and train her, have all the costs met totally by the rescue group during her stay with us, and turn her over to the right family when they come along. As a foster family, we'd only take 10 lb and under small breed dogs, we wouldn't be very good with heavy shedding dogs, only yorkies, poodles, and short haired toys. We would take ONE at a time until a family is found with each. And should the right dog come along and work perfectly with our Sadie, we may consider adoption at that point. I told the lady that first and foremost is Sadie, if she's not happy with the second addition, we would no longer be able to foster. This is a way to try this all out without making a lifelong commitment to a puppy and then having to change our minds. We can open our home up and love and teach a dog and rescue it from where it is, but it doesn't put us out financially.

What do you think of this idea. We're still debating it between us and trying to decide. With the help of the vet/lodge as an employer and the ability to connect with many rescues and shelters as possible foster parents for those rare toy breeds that come into their shelter, we think this would be a better choice for us and just might work out.

Thanks for the advice, it was all welcomed and was all taken into consideration.

That all sounds just wonderful, I wish you the best of luck and God bless you! It takes very special hearted people to love those special animals. I always was taking in stays as a child and finding their families.