Napoleon...infant questions!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by maryeverett1

Jeanie thanks for that information! Do you by chance have a picture you could send me of what that 4x4 pen looks like? Not trying to be a moron just would like to see a visual so maybe I can create one too!

Mardelin thanks for your detailed info! It was very informative and reasurring to me that Napoleon is on the right track!

Thanks again to everyone who posted and answered my amateur questions! I very much appreciate all the excellent and informative advice! You guys are awesome!! :-)

PetEdge: ProSelect Puppy Playpens

Here's a website that has puppy play pens, there are other types on Pet Edge.....I've used these in the past for whelping, but lining the grates with thick rubberized excercise pads and putting potty pads on top of those.

Oh! your one question about whether your puppy can hear you....ttheir ears open at the same time frame as their eyes...

There is a couple of methods that I use for deworming.....I don't deworm unless warrented. I take a collective stool sample into the vets and have it tested. If the sample is negative, no worming, I prefer not to administer poisons if unnecessary. Another way this can be done and I'm not sure where you live. If you have your kids on heartworm meds, as I did when I lived in Texas. I usually take my girl off of them just prior to breeding, and then start her back on when the pups are 2 weeks of age....I've found it's the less stressful method of deworming pups...automatic, without taking a stool sample in.

You said your girl is not real receptive to eating....there is a whelping pudding recipe sticky in the breeding section.....

Here's some info on eclampsia
Oral Cal Plus
new product from revival, same as calsorb with out the nasty taste, does not make them vomit.

If you must give calsorb, put it on your finger, and rub in bitches mouth, gums, inside of mouth, underneath tongue, then follow with nutrical, don’t just squirt a blob in their mouth. Even if they throw up, it HAS absorbed (not 100%.. but a lot) because the bloodstream picks it up immediately through the mouth..it does not have to be digested to work. Give calsorb or Oral Cal Plus if bitch is exhibiting signs of eclampsia. Some signs are very subtle. My bitch would dig like crazy when I took her outside, then try to climb up the side of the wall of the house…that was her first sign she was going south for me.. and we’d treat with calsorb immediately. Anything “odd” should be taken as a sign…especially, panting, pacing, restless behavior etc… understanding of course that bitches pant after delivery anyways for a few days.

Okay to hold it at bay, so it never comes at all… forget everything about giving tums, cottage cheese, cheese, icecream.. etc. It’s useless. The body needs the calcium to be delivered with the correct ratio of Vit D and Phosphorus or it doesn’t absorb it, it’s useless. Pet Cal has this correct ratio. Another thing that has it is, believe it or not.. a scrambled whole egg! Of course everyone knows not to start calcium until the litter is whelped.. no giving it to PG bitches… I do give some calsorb during whelping If things slow down on a larger litter, but never before whelping. Make it a general practice to scramble your bitch an egg every day, and depending on weight, give ½ to a whole pet tab per day. I gave it to a 8 lb bitch ½ in the morning ½ at night…this is the “daily dose” for about a 20 lb dog who was NOT nursing a litter…so just fine for ½ the size, but nursing a litter. I would grind up the pet tab in the food processor and put the powder in the egg when I scrambled it.

Also, check your dog food for Soybeans, soy protein, or anything related to soy in any way. For SOME reason that is not completely understood by me (many menopause supplements contain soy, or are soy based, so this seems to be a contradiction).. soy protein can interfere with the absorption of calcium in dogs. If your food has soy of any sort, change to a food that does not for the duration of the weaning of the litter.

These have just been my experiences, and I’ve been very fortunate at being able to keep it under control. Hope my experiences can help someone else

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Don't be surprised that your mom continues to diaper them until 8 or 9 weeks. I have some moms that continue until they are older.

Mary -- another one of my civilian questions: what exactly does "diapering" entail? What is the mom doing when she diapers?

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Maximo

Mary -- another one of my civilian questions: what exactly does "diapering" entail? What is the mom doing when she diapers?

Lol, I think it's a nice way of saying mommy licks them clean!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Maximo

Mary -- another one of my civilian questions: what exactly does "diapering" entail? What is the mom doing when she diapers?

Ok! Now you're gonna force me to be blunt.....stimulating them and eating their waste matter......

I prefer diapering....much more dignified.

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Lol, I think it's a nice way of saying mommy licks them clean!

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Ok! Now you're gonna force me to be blunt.....stimulating them and eating their waste matter......

I prefer diapering....much more dignified.

Oh no, I wish I had asked after dinner. I'm going to go back to my mental image of the mom taking out a little box of Pampers and carefully diapering her babies.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Maximo

Oh no, I wish I had asked after dinner. I'm going to go back to my mental image of the mom taking out a little box of Pampers and carefully diapering her babies.

Keep this image in your head.......

I have a 3 year old girl, who is a mom. But, her mother still continues to diaper her, not every day...but, here and there.....Mom thinks this girl is still her little baby and Tahlulah still acts like it.

But, you understand pups, at birth do not have the ability to do this on their own. So, moms stimulate them and being the animals that they are want their den kept clean to keep prediators away...no smell, no sign of pups.....though our wee ones are domesticated...they still have animal instincts....it's ingrained.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Keep this image in your head.......

I have a 3 year old girl, who is a mom. But, her mother still continues to diaper her, not every day...but, here and there.....Mom thinks this girl is still her little baby and Tahlulah still acts like it.
But, you understand pups, at birth do not have the ability to do this on their own. So, moms stimulate them and being the animals that they are want their den kept clean to keep prediators away...no smell, no sign of pups.....though our wee ones are domesticated...they still have animal instincts....it's ingrained.

I know a lot of human relationships like that.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by maryeverett1

Jeanie thanks for that information! Do you by chance have a picture you could send me of what that 4x4 pen looks like? Not trying to be a moron just would like to see a visual so maybe I can create one too!

Mardelin thanks for your detailed info! It was very informative and reasurring to me that Napoleon is on the right track!

Thanks again to everyone who posted and answered my amateur questions! I very much appreciate all the excellent and informative advice! You guys are awesome!! :-)

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