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02-21-2010, 10:12 AM | #16 | |
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02-21-2010, 10:22 AM | #17 |
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| ladyjane - Sounds like this little girl was small and had an owner that had no clue what she got her dog into. This drives me so crazy - people breeding and having no clue. She should have been helping her mama yorkie to work with the contractions to get the pups out. If the mama quit contractions - a c-section is needed (puppies are way too large for the mom to birth normally). But the vet there would have to have this owner say okay - too many risks for a law suit - reason the vet propbably could not do anything without the owner giving permission. She probably was shocked when they gave her a quote on the cost of a c-section. So many people are breeding their yorkies because they think that it would be so "cute and fun" to have puppies! Yikes! I am sorry but this is no reason to have pups! Period! And there is so much to it than this - A Lot More! So many people too buying yorkies just because they want to breed them and thinking it would be so easy to sell the pups since they are popular. Wrong! It is sickening to me, no consideration for the dog. At least I am trained - I was a vet tech, but for the other people out there with no training, no mentor - they have no clue what risks they cause for their yorkies by breeding. This is one breed that this should be left to the pros. For the OP (I am so sorry of your loss of Gigi) and know how sad you would be if you lost another one of your yorkies. I would just have your girl now spayed and love her. I am glad that you asked our opinions and for advice on this topic instead of just going ahead and breeding your girl. At least you are informed now of the dangers and that testing should be done as well as having her evaluated (yorkshire terrier standard). |
02-21-2010, 10:39 AM | #18 |
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| I have gone through two births that were posteria breech - I hate these and usually most always require vet assistance. A posteria breech delivery is when the pup is not only born with back feet first, but also the stomach is facing the mama's tail (this is double backward). A pup should be born with its stomach facing the mama's stomach so the the spin can curve as it is being born - so much easier on the pup and mom and normal. By having the pup backwards with stomach of the pup facing the tail of the mom, it does not allow the spin to curve, causing complication. Also the cord was tightly wrapped around the pup twice and was around the neck of the pup. At first it took awhile for the feet to be presened, then I noticed it was posteria - I knew this would be hard. So I got ready and grabbed gently on the pup not to break the sack since the pup's head was still up inside past the pelvic bone. So then I had to twist the pup working with the mom's contractions to unwind the cord and also had to dislog an arm and then the head. I almost did not get the pup out this last time, but was lucky. I also had all short cords on the rest of the pup, so had to work at getting some length to the cords by reaching inside and then clamping the cords off and cutting. Time is of the essence in order to have a pup survive. I quickly had to make sure the sacks were off and pup rubbed down to get them going and lungs cleared of the mucus. You have to be so trained to help these yorkies deliver. That is just how it is with this breed in order to have live births and a live mom, but things can happen and you need to be prepared. I have lost pups before and have come very close to loosing a mom before and I am trained. I hate breeding and since I am aware of the dangers, I do not breed often. I cannot understand why people would be breeding, just to breed. I read about the person that had 6 litters in one month!! OMG |
02-21-2010, 11:40 AM | #19 |
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| OK, now y'all have scared me! I know what you all say is true and I consider myself lucky overall. The only problem whelp I've had was once when the pup was stuck and had no sack. I consider it a near-miracle that he survived. Yorkies are a breed that you absolutely can't casually breed and let nature take its course. I can honestly say that, the more experienced I've become, the more scared I get, and rightly so.
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02-21-2010, 11:41 AM | #20 |
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| Topknot - you are very informative. Thank you for taking the time to share all of your valuable information.
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02-21-2010, 12:02 PM | #21 | |
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I couldn't do it like others - I entertained the thought BRIEFLY ....once I researched only a tiny bit of what breeding small dogs entailed - it quickly left my head. | |
02-21-2010, 12:13 PM | #22 |
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02-21-2010, 12:38 PM | #23 | |
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02-21-2010, 12:47 PM | #24 | |
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You can also have a litter of 5 and 4 delivered just wonderfully......pop, pop, pop, pop.....then mom's strength goes out and her reproductive walls have no more muscle tone and can't contract any more. So on comes the surgical gloves, in goes the finger to test the vaginal walls to see if they bounce back when you gently press If they don't, you have 4 or 5 hours of delivering pups and off you off you go for a C-section for the last one. As Tina says.....you don't go into this without some kind of knowledge of what you're doing and preparing yourself for the worst. My husband thinks I'm nuts when he sees the meds coming in; Plasma, Dextrose, Dopram, antibiotics, antihistamines. Wait till he sees my next order, I'm ordering that Oxygen Tent. But, I'd rather be over prepared and not have to use anything, than not have it there if I need it.
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02-21-2010, 02:24 PM | #25 | |
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Kind of reminds me of what I've been told about pilot training, learning to fly the plane is easy; it's learning what to do in all the emergency situations that makes flight training difficult.
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02-21-2010, 02:48 PM | #26 |
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| And I won't be doing THAT EITHER!!!
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02-21-2010, 08:56 PM | #27 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker | kudos to all the breeders, I know I wouldnt be able to do this... one reason I got a male ... love all the wonderful breeders out there and those who truly care for their yorkie babies.
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02-21-2010, 10:50 PM | #28 |
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| in honesty i thought about breeding Gatsby and no one was going to change my mind until i thought my new rescue was pregnant and i thought about all the horrible things that can go wrong. and i prayed every night that she was not, i got lucky and she was not pregnant. but those 4 days helped me see how bad i did not want puppies just imagine your little girl in some of these stories as the mother pup who is scared and in pain i promise you will change your mind
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02-22-2010, 01:08 AM | #29 |
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| Wow Just when I think I'm almost ready (tests are done, have an emergency plan and a back up emergency plan B) I get this funny feeling. I am so grateful that you all replied. I have obviously lost one girl and am not ready to loose another. That is why I have done all the research. I just want to be informed before I decide to share in this life changing experience. I have helped with difficult kitten births and dropper fed too many to count but, I have never had puppies. To be a part of a birthing and nursing experience creates a special bond between both you, the mom and the baby. It creates a special relationship of trust and love. I would never have puppies just to sell them. I just know that I have enjoyed my babies and dream of having a furbaby with mommy's smarts and daddy's silky coat as well as the soulfull eyes that our Yorkies share. I want more love in my house and have all the time in the world to spend with them as I do not work. I guess I have to realise that there is no guarentee. For now I will wait until I feel reasonably sure that I can recognise and respond appropriately to any sign of trouble. Thank you all for being there! Tonya
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02-22-2010, 01:12 AM | #30 |
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| A special thank you for sharing at legnth! I truly appreciate it! Please feel free to continue to share your stories.
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