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Old 02-10-2010, 04:33 PM   #1
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Question Protection against loose dogs?

Maximo and I encountered loose dogs again today on our walk. I am concerned about what I'm going to do when I have 2 dogs to walk and protect.

For those of you who walk multiple Yorkies, what do you do? I would prefer something other than mace or pepper spray.
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Unhappy Loose dog(s)

Do you know whose dogs they are ? This is a tough one.

A couple of months ago, my neighbor (a big burly dude, to boot) was walking the family's 7 month old cockapoo on a leash when out of nowhere, another neighbor's 100 lb. Shepherd mix ran up from behind them, grabbed the cockapoo in its jaws & literally ran down the street with it, & shook its head, etc. and killed the poor little one (massive internal bleeding). As you can imagine, the family was wrecked. They called animal control the next day.

Here in Texas, we have a "one bite" law, I don't fully understand it, but evidently, unless the dog does it again, there's not a lot that can be done legally.

For that reason, I would fin another route to take, go to the park, I don't have all the answers, only you can know, but please be EXTREMELY vigilant where loose dogs are concerned. Yorkies are so small, they don't stand a chance in a dogfight.
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Unhappy Loose dog(s)

Do you know whose dogs they are ? This is a tough one.

A couple of months ago, my neighbor (a big burly dude, to boot) was walking the family's 7 month old cockapoo on a leash when out of nowhere, another neighbor's 100 lb. Shepherd mix ran up from behind them, grabbed the cockapoo in its jaws & literally ran down the street with it, & shook its head, etc. and killed the poor little one (massive internal bleeding). As you can imagine, the family was wrecked. They called animal control the next day.

Here in Texas, we have a "one bite" law, I don't fully understand it, but evidently, unless the dog does it again, there's not a lot that can be done legally.

For that reason, I would find another route to take, go to the park, I don't have all the answers, only you can know, but please be EXTREMELY vigilant where loose dogs are concerned. Yorkies are so small, they don't stand a chance in a dogfight.
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Maximo and I encountered loose dogs again today on our walk. I am concerned about what I'm going to do when I have 2 dogs to walk and protect.

For those of you who walk multiple Yorkies, what do you do? I would prefer something other than mace or pepper spray.
I used to walk my little Yorkie, on a leash, but am finding that big dogs come out of nowhere. I just got a Yorkie magazine, and it says that a big dog, esp. dogs like Labs, will attack a small dog thinking it is a rabbit,etc. After all, they are hunting dogs.

The article said under no circumstances should you ever let a big dog sniff a small dog, even if the owners are with their dog and say their dog is safe.
They tend to go for their necks, and one bite, and they are gone.

I am afraid to walk one dog, let alone two. Even if I pick Sadie up in my arms a big dog will still circle us. I am not very tall, and I felt scared and threatened enough that I won't walk her at all, unless friends are with me.
Otherwise, she stays in my yard.

I don't know what to tell you, but I would not walk any dog unless you have
another person with you. Even that does not mean it is safe.
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Wow that is a scary thought, I never thought of that hunting instinct...my husband has toyed with the idea of getting a large breed puppy for himself while Jasper is still a puppy so they can grow up together...should I convince him not to?
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I probably wouldn't. Why take a chance ?
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I know you don't want to use mace or pepper spray, but they have the advantage that the propellant in the can means they "shoot" further so if you do have a dog run up on you, you can get them before they get too close. If nothing else, carry a spray bottle or water bottle with half and half water and lemon juice that you can squirt the bigger dogs with. Lemon juice isn't as strong as the ultra concentrated cayenne in pepper spray but it still burns like a sonofagun if you get it in their eyes. Just don't forget which water bottle has the lemon and which doesn't if you get thirsty on the walk
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Wow that is a scary thought, I never thought of that hunting instinct...my husband has toyed with the idea of getting a large breed puppy for himself while Jasper is still a puppy so they can grow up together...should I convince him not to?
I would think if they grow up together, in the same digs, they would be just fine. But, you may want to discuss this with your vet.

It also depends on the dogs.

Yorkies seem to have a reputation to be yappers, and my baby hardly ever barks. The vet said any dog can be a yapper. It just depends on how it was raised.

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I use a stroller for my yorkie girls. We don't have animal control in my area and everyone let's their dog walk off leash, even on the busy streets. It's my biggest pet peeve. I am thinking of buying some pepper spray just because even when I've got my dogs in the stroller, I still have my 3 kids with me.
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We have a PetGear AT3 stroller to take on walks. Daisy loves to "heel" by the wheels and trucks right along. If a big dog comes along I quickly tuck her inside and zip up the mesh. I had one situation where a big dog jumped up and knocked me and the stroller over, but my pup was safe inside. Most of the loose dogs around here are nice pets, but get excited and want to play.
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Do you know whose dogs they are ? This is a tough one.

A couple of months ago, my neighbor (a big burly dude, to boot) was walking the family's 7 month old cockapoo on a leash when out of nowhere, another neighbor's 100 lb. Shepherd mix ran up from behind them, grabbed the cockapoo in its jaws & literally ran down the street with it, & shook its head, etc. and killed the poor little one (massive internal bleeding).
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For that reason, I would fin another route to take, go to the park, I don't have all the answers, only you can know, but please be EXTREMELY vigilant where loose dogs are concerned. Yorkies are so small, they don't stand a chance in a dogfight.
Most of the dogs we encounter, I don't know who they belong to and I doubt it would do any good to try to talk to the owners as many online articles suggested. I have had owners stand and laugh at me while their big dogs jumped around me holding Maximo in my arms.

I think of LuluMaye's frightening experience trying to protect her 4 little ones.

Your story about the cockapoo -- that is what I had as a kid and big dogs always charged that poor little thing, the same way they do with Maximo.

I have tried going other places to walk -- same problem with roaming dogs. They seem to be everywhere; it's so frustrating.
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I used to walk my little Yorkie, on a leash, but am finding that big dogs come out of nowhere. I just got a Yorkie magazine, and it says that a big dog, esp. dogs like Labs, will attack a small dog thinking it is a rabbit,etc. After all, they are hunting dogs.

The article said under no circumstances should you ever let a big dog sniff a small dog, even if the owners are with their dog and say their dog is safe.
They tend to go for their necks, and one bite, and they are gone.

I am afraid to walk one dog, let alone two. Even if I pick Sadie up in my arms a big dog will still circle us. I am not very tall, and I felt scared and threatened enough that I won't walk her at all, unless friends are with me.
Otherwise, she stays in my yard.

I don't know what to tell you, but I would not walk any dog unless you have another person with you. Even that does not mean it is safe.
We have a lot of "unbalanced" (untrained and frustrated) large dogs loose in our neighborhood; I would never let any of them get close to my dog -- as you point out, one bite is all it would take. The big dogs circle us too, and jump around, scaring me half to death. I try to stay calm, but I have experience being bitten by German Shepherds, a Husky, and I was tackled by a Saint Bernard in 2 feet of snow (and he didn't even offer me any whisky ).

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I know you don't want to use mace or pepper spray, but they have the advantage that the propellant in the can means they "shoot" further so if you do have a dog run up on you, you can get them before they get too close. If nothing else, carry a spray bottle or water bottle with half and half water and lemon juice that you can squirt the bigger dogs with. Lemon juice isn't as strong as the ultra concentrated cayenne in pepper spray but it still burns like a sonofagun if you get it in their eyes. Just don't forget which water bottle has the lemon and which doesn't if you get thirsty on the walk
LOL! I like lemon water, but I'll be careful not to give it to Maximo. My concern with sprays is that they can backfire, and some people claim that they can enrage a dog rather than deter it. Do you think people make this claim because they think it is cruel to do to a dog?

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I use a stroller for my yorkie girls. We don't have animal control in my area and everyone let's their dog walk off leash, even on the busy streets. It's my biggest pet peeve. I am thinking of buying some pepper spray just because even when I've got my dogs in the stroller, I still have my 3 kids with me.
You have 3 to protect, I feel for you. I'm thinking about getting something that I can pull along with me and throw the 2 boys into for protection.

I am also going to buy a stun gun baton; I've read that just the noise of turning it on will deter an approaching dog.
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We have a PetGear AT3 stroller to take on walks. Daisy loves to "heel" by the wheels and trucks right along. If a big dog comes along I quickly tuck her inside and zip up the mesh. I had one situation where a big dog jumped up and knocked me and the stroller over, but my pup was safe inside. Most of the loose dogs around here are nice pets, but get excited and want to play.
I'm glad you and Daisy weren't hurt!

I agree that a dog doesn't always have bad intentions, but they get excited and flail around, which can be dangerous for the little ones.
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I always walk Piper at a State Park where all dogs are to be leashed. When I'm walking I'm always keeping my eyes peeled for the one dog who happens to be not leashed or has gotten away from their owner and doesn't come when called. It seems that if there is a loose dog in the park they come right for Piper. Last year I saw a Doberman coming towards us with its leash dragging behind him and his owner running and yelling behind him. I scooped up Piper just as the Doberman reached us. It seems as though as soon as you pick up your little one a larger dog will start jumping for it. I'm only 5'1" and when you having a large dog jumping on you it's not good. This Doberman is jumping and Piper is trying to climb on my head to get away. The Doberman is going in circles around me, jumping, and now I'm wrapped in its leash. Meanwhile the owner is yelling it's all right, he won't hurt you, he just wants to play. I'm thinking if I go down that THING is going to kill Piper. Finally the owner gets to me and gets his dog under control and again tells me he wouldn't have hurt me or my dog. Somehow I just did not believe him. When a dog is snapping its teeth in your face, its not being friendly. Always be aware of whats around you when you're are out walking. I'm convinced that if I hadn't scooped up Piper that Doberman would have killed her. Friendly or Not.
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After we got our little girl 12 years ago, we were also worried about a dog or a coyote coming out of no where to attack. I love hiking, walking and running, and the Yorkie, although a tuff little dog, just does not have the legs to keep up for miles, I decided (with my wife's permission) to get a larger breed that can do all of the outdoor stuff, and one who is also a guardian. I remembered when we were in Southern Italy, I say the best looking dog I had ever seen. Here, in the USA they are called the Cane Corso. Did my research, flew around to several breeders, and finally made my choice. He has been terrific. Very few dogs pull to us when out for a walk, but if they do, he gets in between us and them, but yet he is heavily socialized, off leash trained, and is just so gentle with the Yorkie Maxine it is not funny. She is the boss. My wife usually carries Maxine most of the walk, and we let he walk when she tells us she wants to get down. When she was young, we went for 3 mile walks and she loved it. Now, she prefers to be carried or ride in her carriage, but does walk several blocks.
Best deterrent is a large breed TRAINED dog. Second best is a Stroller of some type, If a dog comes flying at you, most likely you will not have time to grab the mace and spray accurately. JMHO.
The Yorkie believes that she is the guardian...she treats him, all 125 pounds like her son.
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