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Lovetodream88 02-05-2010 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 2988586)
I have to disagree.. I see so many tails docked so close you cannot tell if they even have one let alone see it move. Kizzie has about a 1 inch nub and I never see it moving it doesn't stick up or out at all! We can tell what she is feeling only by her facial or body reactions.

I have never seen a tail cut the same length in yorkies, cockers, cockapoos, poodles, english springer spaniel etc.. (these are the docked breeds I have owned).

Why can't the tails be done properly? Vets do NOT know the standard of every dog so they have to go by what the breeder tells them. So you cannot depend on the vets to do it right and so many breeders doing it don't know the correct length either. All 4 of my yorkies have different tail lengths. Only 1 of them is in the correct spot and one of them has a full tail and dew claws.

I think that if the topic is upsetting someone then maybe it's time to take a break from the topic.
Maybe I should have said the ones I have seen still wag because obviously I havent seen every yorkie lol although hey I love looking at pictures of cute yorkies :D

Lovetodream88 02-05-2010 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 2988607)
Uni has a nice 3" docked tail that shows her every emotion.

And I think Oreos of all kinds are nasty.
Callies is 3 inches as well I have no idea if thats docked or not I love it tho because it seems perfect for her. Its more then a nubby altho nubbys are cute. Callie has a lot of feeling in her tail she moves it like a cat when your touching it but I never noticed this until the groomer messed up and shaved it and I was kinda messing with it.

Wylie's Mom 02-05-2010 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2987613)
Since Jackson has his tail, I honestly cannot imagine him without it. I tried looking at the photo below and imaging just the nub... I just can't picture it.
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 2987643)
Very pretty! Jackson is your pet and I wouldn't or couldn't imagine anything to change in my companions either!
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Brit, his tail is beautiful :)!!!

I'm quoting both you cool cats bc here we have a member who has a yorkie w/ a long, fabulous tail - and another member, who is a show breeder, responding in such a positive way :D. Love it.

It's pretty clear this is a tough thread for some people, but I think it's valid and important - the thread is about so much more than just its topic. As triggering as some of these posts are (for me too! :rolleyes:), I hope we can all maintain our cool as best we can, so the discussion can continue.

At the end of the day, I think we all want the same thing...what is best for the kiddos, right :)? So, we're really all on the same team...just presenting information...and opinions...and questions...

livingdustmops 02-05-2010 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 2988460)
It probably was a bit rude but really the op was really rude in there two posts that were closed even more rude then the person saying the yorkie would look cuter with a docked tail so really I think the op is just getting a taste of some of what there dishing out. Really annoyed by her two posts that were closed because they where so uncalled for just cant seem to get over it.
Then put her on ignore...it will make life easier for you if certain people bother you.

livingdustmops 02-05-2010 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 2988640)
Great list of links, thank you for sharing them. I had several saved as well but lost them when my computer crashed..:(
Thanks...:) There really is a lot of great information on the internet to plow through. I do understand both sides of the coin (I love going to dog shows) but at the end of the day, I do not like to see any pain given to an animal for the sake of what human's like to look at...As I have said in another post..ear cropping is just plain cruel to me.

Lovetodream88 02-05-2010 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2988765)
Then put her on ignore...it will make life easier for you if certain people bother you.
Didnt know I could do that.......... or I would have after they left a comment on my page thing because her thread had been closed and she just had to respond

Mardelin 02-05-2010 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 2988776)
Didnt know I could do that.......... or I would have after they left a comment on my page thing because her thread had been closed and she just had to respond
Yep! Go to your Profile/CPR page....click on the ignore......it does make life easier.

Cerise 02-05-2010 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 2988118)
I think that's maybe a bit rude... I know the owner of that dog isn't here on YT (I don't think?) But if someone told me Jackson would look cuter without his tail... I think I'd feel a little offended. Because I think yorkies with and without tails are equally cute.

How are you offended when I stated that he was CUTE first? I just stated later that I THINK (IMO) that HE would be CUTER with a docked tail.

Jackson IS cute, period!

hugz4all4 02-05-2010 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 2988602)
If your puppies are screaming during a vaccination or doing sub-Q then your not doing it right. In 35 years I have been giving my dogs and puppies vaccinations I have NEVER had one even flinch let alone scream. But I can promise you I have heard many puppies scream while getting tails and dews done.

hmmm.. I dont do my own vax's my vet does.. two of my dogs cry out and flinch when being vaxed every single time. I had the choice to have my yorkie poodle mix tail docked or not, as I got him from friends and picked him out hours after he was born. The friend,took the pups at 3 days old, had the dew claws and tails done and said they never even cried out. SO I guess it just depends on the vets and the pain tolerance in dogs. Just like children/people. My oldest who is 12, hates shot and will react every time. My other 3 kids even as babies sat still and never cried for shots or blood draws and slept through ear piercings.
Both my toy poodle and yorkie mix have nubs that wag just like my 2 dogs with tails, lack of comminucation.. i think not..:animal36
Bottom line, if you want to follow the standard then the docked tail in yorkies is nessacary,(sp?) if you only want a pet then look for a breeder that will give you a choice or choose a dog breed that has a full tail, like the biewer..;)

Mardelin 02-05-2010 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Cerise (Post 2988782)
How are you offended when I stated that he was CUTE first? I just stated later that I THINK (IMO) that HE would be CUTER with a docked tail.

Jackson IS cute, period!
Not offensive at all, but it's probably a better practice not to comment on anyone's dog unless it's 100% positive. People are touchy about their pups, just human nature.

Cerise 02-05-2010 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 2988647)
Uggh... I don't understand the "tone" here... To say that people who don't dock don't care about the YTCA is just unfair, seriously there is no need to attack.

They look beautiful with their tails intact as well..at least to most. I like them either way as long as it's not a tiny nub.

No attack here. Just stating the facts...the YTCA standard is a docked tail. Until the miraculous day that changes, the complaints about people docking tails, or complaints against people who love the tail docked on their Yorkies is worthless IMO.

Britster 02-05-2010 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2988764)
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Brit, his tail is beautiful :)!!!

I'm quoting both you cool cats bc here we have a member who has a yorkie w/ a long, fabulous tail - and another member, who is a show breeder, responding in such a positive way :D. Love it.

It's pretty clear this is a tough thread for some people, but I think it's valid and important - the thread is about so much more than just its topic. As triggering as some of these posts are (for me too! :rolleyes:), I hope we can all maintain our cool as best we can, so the discussion can continue.

At the end of the day, I think we all want the same thing...what is best for the kiddos, right :)? So, we're really all on the same team...just presenting information...and opinions...and questions...
Thank you. And I 100% agree.

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2988773)
Thanks... There really is a lot of great information on the internet to plow through. I do understand both sides of the coin (I love going to dog shows) but at the end of the day, I do not like to see any pain given to an animal for the sake of what human's like to look at...As I have said in another post..ear cropping is just plain cruel to me.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Cerise (Post 2988782)
How are you offended when I stated that he was CUTE first? I just stated later that I THINK (IMO) that HE would be CUTER with a docked tail.

Jackson IS cute, period!
I said I would be offended if you were talking about my dog, but I thought you were talking about the dog in the video? Lol, I'm sooo confused. I get what you're saying. I'm just saying if someone told ME "he would be a lot cuter withOUT his tail..." I'd be a little like, oohhkay, well your dogs nub is ugly and he would look so much cuter with a fluffy tail.

I also understand that everybody finds something different cute. Some people think Pugs are hideous, but I'm sure their owners wouldn't appreciate being told that they weren't cute, ya know? Dogs become like our children (obviously - I think everyone on this site knows that! lol) and I don't think it's cool to judge dogs cuteness publicly.

hugz4all4 02-05-2010 06:31 AM
oh and I wanted to add.. that I think ALL yorkies with tails or nubs are beautiful..:)

and Im not a big fan of oreos either..:)....

great topic, love all the info posted and thanks to those who have kept it civil..:)

Britster 02-05-2010 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 2988793)
Not offensive at all, but it's probably a better practice not to comment on anyone's dog unless it's 100% positive. People are touchy about their pups, just human nature.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

Britster 02-05-2010 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hugz4all4 (Post 2988798)
oh and I wanted to add.. that I think ALL yorkies with tails or nubs are beautiful..:)

and Im not a big fan of oreos either..:)....

great topic, love all the info posted and thanks to those who have kept it civil..:)
LOL, I love that the Oreos topic is still goin' on! :p


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