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Old 01-26-2010, 04:45 PM   #16
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I read about something called "Predatory Drift" when a big dog is playing with a little dog and all of a sudden - sees them as prey. And that it can happen even with two dogs that have lived together for years.

That was a big discussion on another board I'm on. It worries me because my Westie is three times Lucy's size. It seems like he knows when he is getting too rough with her - he will go and grab a toy and put it in his mouth. They will still roll around together - but he will have a toy in his mouth and not be play-biting her.

Here's a blurb on predatory drift:

"Predatory Drift happens when the larger dog's instinct to hunt are triggered.


These instincts can be triggered when play escalates or gets too much like the real thing (an out of control chase game). It can happen when a small dog gets scared or injured and squeals or wrigglesin a way that makes them look like prey (dinner), Predatory Drift can happen just because thesize difference says, "You are comparatively bite-sized, or move like something that is bite-sized, and I am a canine predator."

Yikes! I never leave mine alone together when I am not home. Scary.
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:10 PM   #17
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Since moving to a wilderness area, owls, hawks, wolves and coyotes are my greatest fear for my little ones. Apparently there are bears in the area but as it is winter, I don't have to worry about them for a while, thank goodness. I have built them a little potty pen that is right off the deck, but I still worry, the woods is only 6 feet further out. You can never predict the actions of a wild animal, so even if you don't see them in the immediate area, they could be there. I always go out with the fur kids, and I don't let them out of sight even on the deck.

My heart goes out to these two ladies for their loss. You are so right we need to hold our babies close, disaster can strike from any direction.
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:13 PM   #18
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That is so sad
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:27 PM   #19
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wow...this is terrible
I have never heard of another household pet turning on a smaller one??
How often does this happen?
I also have a JackRussell/Pug cross, she is 3 years old. So far she seems to love my little yorkie. But I do watch when they play & stop the play if I think it is getting too rough. Now I am really nervous!!
There was a beautiful 1 yr old boxer, the owner's, that was always at my home terminal, when I was driving truck. She was very used to playing with tiny little dogs and was very sweet to my three little ones. One morning I walked into the driver's room, my 2 Yorkies were inside the front of my jacket and my ancient Lhasa was on her leash. I went to the counter to put some paper work down and the boxer attacked my Lhasa. Fortunately the dispatcher, a really big man, was there. It was all he could do to pull the boxer off my little one. If my Lhasa had not been in full coat, she would have been killed. Between the dispatcher pulling the boxer off and my Lhasas long hair, tragedy was averted. Since my truck was in the repair shop up town, I had no choice but to stay in the driver's room with the fur kids. I held all three of them for the whole day! The dispatcher said that the boxer had started attacking the little dogs ocassionally, without any warning, then 10 minutes later be there to play.

I would never leave a small fur kid with a large one without supervision after that experience.
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So sad. God bless those little ones.

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Old 01-27-2010, 04:27 AM   #21
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How terrible, my heart goes out to all who've lost a pet especially in such awful circumstances. We do our very best to protect our little one's but such is life that we can never know just what's around the corner. I know of two greyhounds that turned on and killed a little Yorkie while the owner (an old lady) was walking it.
Having a Yorkie or any small dog is rather like having a toddler that never grows up.
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what sad stories these are. i hate reading them but at the same time, they really do serve as the best warnings to keep watch over our little ones.

i had never heard of predatory drift before but i wonder if that's what was involved in a horrible incident between my parents two dogs. one is a rescued mutt, part hound, with a sweet though hyper disposition. the other is an 11 year old pembroke corgi and the love of my mother's life.

in november, they got into it and my 70 year old mother had to rip them apart. their house looked like a crime scene in the aftermath and nobody could believe my mother escaped injury. it happened out of nowhere with zero warning and her corgi very nearly died, his trachea was ripped wide open, requiring surgery and weeks in the hospital. thousands of dollars later and after nearly losing him several times, they were able to take him home and he's happy as can be.

when he got home he wanted to go play with his sister, the mutt, but my parents were obviously terrified of taking a chance. months later, my mom still spends half her time making sure those two dogs can't get to each other.
iwhen i get lulu a sibling it will likely be another yorkie but it definitely won't be a large dog. i love big dogs, but i never want to experience what my folks did.
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It's so upsetting to read that a bird of prey took a small dog. This stay's
in my mind for day's thinking of the terror that little one felt. It's so sad
to read.
As far as the family pet, GS, I don't care how gentle a dog is, it still
is a dog and can, for whatever reason, turn aggressive. Something
had to trigger the change but somethings you never know.
Just another tragic sad story. RIP to both of them.
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We're out in the country and there's always hawks. In the summer I can hear owls in the tree line. Even though it's cold up here I never let the little one out without being there. They can get into trouble so quickly and have no idea what an Owl or Hawk will do to them. And it's not just an attack from the air that has me careful, there's quite a few coyote around here. It isn't limited to the country either. I've seen Hawks and Owls in the suburbs to the south.
My DH was out in the yard with my 14 week old yorkie Mia. She was not more than 6 feet from him when a coyote ran up and snatched her. He chased the coyote and it did drop her but she died in my husbands arms. He built me a 25 x 25 x 25 x 25 foot fenced play area for them. We still don't leave them outside alone but now they are enclosed so nothing can get them. If they are not in the play area they are on a leash. I don't think I could stand that ever happening again.
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I have a friend in Florida that has 3 adult yorkies. She has an enclosed pen so she does not always stay outside with them. I was given a 6 month old yorkie that the owner did not want because she could not potty train it. My 3 did not like her and growled when ever she came near. I felt so sorry for her. She just wanted to play. We went to visit my friend and of course had all 4 yorkies with us. Her 3 loved the 6 month old and her daughter fell in love with her too. So I decided to let her have the puppy. She had her for 3 months with no problem. She put them in the pen on day and came out about an hour later and the puppy was dead. She had puncture marks in her throat. She never did find out which of her 3 killed the puppy or why.
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These stories are so sad. I have been so fortunate that I have never lost a dog from an accident. Being a breeder I have got so many calls over the years from devastated pet owners that have lost dogs due to tragic accidents. I think the top of the list is dogs that somehow get out of the house and get hit by a car. I can easily see how that can happen because we have a big screened in porch at the front of our house so we have to actually go through two doors to get outside. Thank goodness for this because over the years there have been a couple of occasions when we would realize one of the dogs was on the porch and we did not know it. Sometimes they can sneak out so easily when we are coming in the door.

I think second on the list would be dogs killed by other dogs. Sometimes it is intentional and sometimes by accident.
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I never let Pixie out by herself. If i did she would ran and chase after anything that moved. Living in a wood area I see hawks all the time. Pixie is always on a leash and If I do see a Hawk hoovering over head I pick her up right away and go into the house.

Sorry to hear of everyone that has lost a Yorkie. They need our protection.

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So saddening to hear this. But, it is so real. I see big birds around here often...hate when mine want to go outside and not use the pads.
My heart goes out to your friend that lost her little one to her German Sheppard.
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My goodness, I am so sorry to here this! How sad for both of them! Your heart must be heavy too.

I may be anal but I won't be letting Cerise go out to potty. She is too small and too many horrors can happen. She will use the potty box. Two of them. One upstairs and one downstairs. She will only go outside somewhere when we are away from home, and ONLY by being in her harness/lead with me, with her.

I also will not have her around big dogs. Socialization is important, and she can be the smartest of all Yorkies, but it's the other dogs, and sometimes their owners, that I don't trust.
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