Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2964498)

Currently though, AKC is not allowing Biewer to be registered with them...even if they are transferred from another registry that AKC recognizes. Just wanted to point as the way it is stated above is a bit confusing. :)

Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2 (Post 2964531)

To understand you would need to research the history of the breed in the beginning.
The dogs started out as rat catchers they were not bred to a standard.
They were bred back to other dogs who also had good rat catching skills.
No records were kept at this time of who or what breeds were bred together.

It wasn’t until the show era started that they started breeding for a certain type of dog.
But by this time there were already different breeds mixed in with the founding dogs.
Even the show breeders were secretive about how they were breeding,
They didn’t want competitors to know how they were producing a certain look.
Records were kept but since there was no DNA back then,
Who’s to say what other type of dogs were being used together.
There are strong feeling that a Maltese was use for it long silky coat texture.

The old books written talks about white dogs with spotty patches of gray were produce but never went to far
As the Show era already had a white dog the Maltese.

Along with the founding dogs strongly stated as the main dogs.
The Clydesdale / Paisley and Old english black and tan.
There were other dogs also thought to be in the breed.
Ones being the Skye since Kershaw's Kitty a Sky was bred to Swift's Old Crab, a cross-bred Scotch Terrier
Skye Terrier produced colors ranging in the chocolate, fawn, white and tans,
This could also explain where the chocolate and gold colors come from.

The different colors has popped up for years.
Breeders just killed them because they were considered a flawed dog.

Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2964544)

I see, eventhough Biewers are accepted by a foreign registry that AKC recognizes, the Biewers would still have to be a BREED that AKC recognizes, in order to be allowed transfer into AKC's registry?

Originally Posted by WalnutHill (Post 2964556)

I know the history of the breed. And I understand that there were a lot of genetics mixed in to create the yorkie we know today. But, if the theory that the gene is naturally occurring is correct, then, to this day, breeders of yorkies are still secretly killing parti puppies in some conspiracy to keep the truth quiet.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2964262)

LOL...so in otherwords, you think the YTCA's acceptance of them could be bought if someone paid them enough? LOL...maybe if the Parti breeders of the world who charge 5-6K for their dogs simply because "they can to meet the demand" pooled their resources together, they could pull that off. :p

Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2962393)

The fact of the matter is if someone wanted to show a parti yorkie in IABCA...(which I'm pretty certain is the circuit you are referring to) when the disqualification for color was enacted in Oct 2007...the dog would be disqualified as the same standard governs judges in IABCA. Prior to this event...I'm sure they could be shown and the color considered a fault and judged accordingly.



While Mr. Biewers dogs began with yorkshire terriers...there is no way to determine what was or was not been bred into the dogs from Germany as we know them today. While we may argue standards...the biewer's color placement has nothing to do with the pie bald gene. It's another gene entirely.

The biewer has now been accepted into the Russian Krnological Federation....which is a registry recognized by AKC and is being shown in confirmation events in Russia. Obviously the RFK considers them a seperate breed. ;)

Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2964544)

I see, eventhough Biewers are accepted by a foreign registry that AKC recognizes, the Biewers would still have to be a BREED that AKC recognizes, in order to be allowed transfer into AKC's registry?

Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 2964576)

I'd like to know who is getting 5 to 6 K for thier parti's!! I know one breeder did a while back when she was basically the only one breeding them...but I highly doubt anyone is getting a price like that today.

Originally Posted by scrapindee (Post 2961296)

A parti-yorkie is an akc registered yorkie that cannot be shown in the ring.

A Biewer is a rare breed dog. Registered either in the U.S. or Germany. Come look at the Biewer Breed Club of America for complete information: Biewer Breed Club of America Inc. BBCA

Also do a search here on YT as there has been a lot of discussion about Biewers and Partis.

Originally Posted by Cares4Dogs (Post 2964834)

I read somewhere that parti yorkies can be shown in obedience, but not in confirmation!?!?!

Does anyone have up-to-date info on the parti yorkies participating in any AKC events??

Originally Posted by Pinehaven (Post 2964836)

Parti's can be show in AKC classes other than Conformation but I don't know who is showing or how many are showing in those allowed classes.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2964827)

Hmmm...let's see:

Here's one that says SOLD, price tag 5000
parti yorkie puppies

Here are some for 4500, 2500, 3000.
Parti yorkie puppies

3000, 3500,
Parti Yorkies pups and Yorkshire Terriers, Yorkies for sale in OK.

Here for 4500, 2000
Yorkshire Terrier Breeder - Parti Color Yorkies, Chocolate Yorkies - Golden Yorkie Puppies

4000
Yorkshire Terriers, Parti Yorkies, Chocolate Yorkies, Golden Yorkies,Dogs and Puppies for Sale.

2500, 3500, 4000,
J Fortin Yorkies My Girls

Heck, I have also seen them for sale fairly recently by breeders here on YT for as much as 4500. Now whether or not these breeders are getting the prices they are advertising for them...who knows? Guess you'd have to contact them to find out. But the higher price tags are certainly still there, no question about it. I would think that the consistent pricing that is seen reflects the amount that people are consistently paying...