Outrage!!!!!!!

[LilMissy]

Originally Posted by Symph2001

Playing Devils Advocate therein lies a quandary.....

If you had to make the choice give your child up to foster care cause you couldn't keep the heat on and the State was getting ready to take them or sell a puppy on the side of the road which would you do? Those are your only 2 choices. Neither is not an option. Pulling another scenario out of the air is not an option. Which would you choose? Child or puppy?



Remindes me of some of the great questions posed in the Book of Questions.

I wouldn't choose either of those options. There are other ways to make a buck. I'd collect pop cans on the side of the road before I'd sell a puppy there. It is not fair to say "these are your only two options" because there are always other options. Selling puppies on the side of the road wouldn't be a permanent solution to your problem anyways. Unless of course you're selling litter after litter after litter. Why not take the time to at least make sure these puppies are placed in a loving home and advertise them properly? Puppies shouldn't be sitting on the side of the road in the dead of winter anyways.

I'm baffled that some people think that this is OK? It's illegal for a reason.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by HendrixandLucy

I cannot believe all of you who posted "yes it is that bad" and make it seem like this is ok. SELLING PUPPIES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IS NOT OK. I don't care if you can't put food on the table. A dogs life is not something that we can throw away to make a quick buck.
Chances are, that puppy who gets bought for 100$ on the side of the road is going to end up in a shelter or not properly taken care of.
And ontop of it all it is ILLEGAL to sell puppies like that because it is ANIMAL CRUELTY!

I thought you people were dog lovers.....

I am BEYOND disgusted by this thread.

Low life people have been doing this forEVER...making money off the backs of little dogs.....so NOW we are going to blame a rough economy for their disgusting behavior????

Panhandle...wash windshields...anything..scrub some floors...but don't send poor defenseless animals out to hell which is where MANY of them are going to end up because a person breeding them did not give a DAMN about where they went to live. Only thing they thought of was MONEY. Give me a break.

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I am BEYOND disgusted by this thread.

Low life people have been doing this forEVER...making money off the backs of little dogs.....so NOW we are going to blame a rough economy for their disgusting behavior????

Panhandle...wash windshields...anything..scrub some floors...but don't send poor defenseless animals out to hell which is where MANY of them are going to end up because a person breeding them did not give a DAMN about where they went to live. Only thing they thought of was MONEY. Give me a break.

I would sell my own body parts before I would sell a puppy on the street corner. But before the body parts thing, I would probably get a job at a fast food place, hotel house keeper, etc. There ARE always other options!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by jencar98

I would sell my own body parts before I would sell a puppy on the street corner. But before the body parts thing, I would probably get a job at a fast food place, hotel house keeper, etc. There ARE always other options!

Yes there are!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by redvalaria

yes, the economy is bad...

but saying "sometimes it is ok to be unethical, if cirmcumstances get bad" is sort of like saying "its ok to rob a bank, as long as you need the money"

selling 6 week old "designer dogs" who have likely had little or no vet care, certainly no medical testing, and should in no way be leaving their mother is just irresponsible....and, while we are at it: how about the poor unsuspecting person who doens't know how bad it is, who buys one of these puppies and ends up with thousands of dollars in vet care? Can they afford it?

Nope, situational ethics don't work for me...if its wrong. IT'S WRONG. and just because times are tough, the morality of it doesn't change.

You want something for the grandbabies? Craigslist is full of pt/temp jobs or odd jobs people want done. Or maybe you could MAKE something for them, really show them the meaning of christmas is not an XBOX.

I know this might be a controversial topic...and perhaps I should refrain from saying too much bc I'm a mod...but I gotta say...from a non-mod perspective...I LOVE this post.

It is along the lines of a quote I also love, which has to do w/ personal ethics: "Character is who you are when no one is looking."

[Kirby]

I'm not defending the selling of puppies on the roadside. This is wrong. My point is, did anyone ask what led this person to do this to the puppies? Perhaps by listening you can learn about other people and maybe educate that person in the process. Saying that it's a disgusting practice selling puppies on the roadside is one thing, but doing something about it is another. And I don't think buying the puppies is the answer. As much as you want to save them, if you buy one, another one will take it's place and the cycle will continue. My point is to educate the source of the problem instead of complaining about it.

[BonBon]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I am BEYOND disgusted by this thread.

Low life people have been doing this forEVER...making money off the backs of little dogs.....so NOW we are going to blame a rough economy for their disgusting behavior????

Panhandle...wash windshields...anything..scrub some floors...but don't send poor defenseless animals out to hell which is where MANY of them are going to end up because a person breeding them did not give a DAMN about where they went to live. Only thing they thought of was MONEY. Give me a break.

I can't believe some of the opinions people have had on this thread.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by bonbon

I can't believe some of the opinions people have had on this thread.

It certainly has been an eye opener for me.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Kirby

My point is, did anyone ask what led this person to do this to the puppies? Perhaps by listening you can learn about other people and maybe educate that person in the process. Saying that it's a disgusting practice selling puppies on the roadside is one thing, but doing something about it is another. And I don't think buying the puppies is the answer. As much as you want to save them, if you buy one, another one will take it's place and the cycle will continue. My point is to educate the source of the problem instead of complaining about it.

How about laziness for one? Seriously. Do you really think that hard working, respectable people would do such a thing to a live being? These animals are God's creatures.

And, trust me, I have stopped my car many times to try to "educate" people such at that woman only to be met with rude remarks. NOW, I simply call the police...case closed. I spend my LIFE educating people about animal abuse. Most of my waking day is doing such...and taking are of animals many of which tarted their lives out poorly because someone was too lazy to make an honest living and did not care where they ended up. My grandmother lost her husband and she raised five children during the Great Depression, holding on to her beloved 65 acre farm that is still in the family. She did what it took...laundry, ironing, alterations, bakiing, whatever she could to to raise money. She did not sell animals on the side of the road .. and she taught her children to love and respect animals as God's creations and their children taught theirs...and it has continued on to another generation since. People DO know there are options....they choose not to take them.

People have been trying to educate the uneducable for years to no avail. It is illegal in most places to sell puppies. You think people don't know that? I think you are naive. Nothing wrong with wanting to see the good in people, but I don't know how much good you will find in a person who is selling dogs on the roadside.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

How about laziness for one? Seriously. Do you really think that hard working, respectable people would do such a thing to a live being? These animals are God's creatures.

And, trust me, I have stopped my car many times to try to "educate" people such at that woman only to be met with rude remarks. NOW, I simply call the police...case closed. I spend my LIFE educating people about animal abuse. Most of my waking day is doing such...and taking are of animals many of which tarted their lives out poorly because someone was too lazy to make an honest living and did not care where they ended up. My grandmother lost her husband and she raised five children during the Great Depression, holding on to her beloved 65 acre farm that is still in the family. She did what it took...laundry, ironing, alterations, bakiing, whatever she could to to raise money. She did not sell animals on the side of the road .. and she taught her children to love and respect animals as God's creations and their children taught theirs...and it has continued on to another generation since. People DO know there are options....they choose not to take them.

People have been trying to educate the uneducable for years to no avail. It is illegal in most places to sell puppies. You think people don't know that? I think you are naive. Nothing wrong with wanting to see the good in people, but I don't know how much good you will find in a person who is selling dogs on the roadside.

Excellent!!

[Symph2001]

To say you would never do something to survive or allow you family to survive means you have never had to make those decisions.

May God never allow you to fall on such hard times that you will be forced to eat your words.

Because to say you would NEVER do such a thing is to throw a gauntlet down at the feet of fate.

[LilMissy]

Originally Posted by Symph2001

To say you would never do something to survive or allow you family to survive means you have never had to make those decisions.

May God never allow you to fall on such hard times that you will be forced to eat your words.

Because to say you would NEVER do such a thing is to throw a gauntlet down at the feet of fate.

I dunno, I had some pretty tough times about 5 yrs ago, so I'd appreciate you not making that judgement. I still managed to feed my two dogs and my three kids. I cleaned houses. I babysat. I did whatever I could to make ends meet. NEVER ONCE did it cross my mind to sell pets on the side of the road. I'm a firm believer in Karma, and that's just something that I couldn't do.

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I know this might be a controversial topic...and perhaps I should refrain from saying too much bc I'm a mod...but I gotta say...from a non-mod perspective...I LOVE this post.

It is along the lines of a quote I also love, which has to do w/ personal ethics: "Character is who you are when no one is looking."

I love that quote too as well as redvalaria's post.

[Kirby]

What would Jesus do?

Originally Posted by ladyjane

How about laziness for one? Seriously. Do you really think that hard working, respectable people would do such a thing to a live being? These animals are God's creatures.

And, trust me, I have stopped my car many times to try to "educate" people such at that woman only to be met with rude remarks. NOW, I simply call the police...case closed. I spend my LIFE educating people about animal abuse. Most of my waking day is doing such...and taking are of animals many of which tarted their lives out poorly because someone was too lazy to make an honest living and did not care where they ended up. My grandmother lost her husband and she raised five children during the Great Depression, holding on to her beloved 65 acre farm that is still in the family. She did what it took...laundry, ironing, alterations, bakiing, whatever she could to to raise money. She did not sell animals on the side of the road .. and she taught her children to love and respect animals as God's creations and their children taught theirs...and it has continued on to another generation since. People DO know there are options....they choose not to take them.

People have been trying to educate the uneducated for years to no avail. It is illegal in most places to sell puppies. You think people don't know that? I think you are naive. Nothing wrong with wanting to see the good in people, but I don't know how much good you will find in a person who is selling dogs on the roadside.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by Symph2001

To say you would never do something to survive or allow you family to survive means you have never had to make those decisions.

May God never allow you to fall on such hard times that you will be forced to eat your words.

Because to say you would NEVER do such a thing is to throw a gauntlet down at the feet of fate.

Wrong! I have fail on hard times, more than once. There is no gauntlet thrown. God is not fooled by what is hard times and what is using animals for a quick buck, or using people for that matter. Don't get confuse with who's affecting their fate. Faith, not fate, is important here. A lack of faith shows when one does unethical things during hard times. And seriously, who knows if these people selling puppies on the side of the road are going through hard times in the first place? Stop assuming it just because so many people are, in the country right now. The actual fate is sick puppies that die, or caused havoc on ignorant buyers lives, and THAT is what these people prey on.

These puppies don't receive proper care and neither do their parents. I have seen so many news clips over the past few years about stories of people selling these puppies, which are sick and some end up dying. This has become a popular thing for puppymills and BYB's to do. It is not right no matter how hard your times are, no matter how you sugar coat it. It's wrong!