Was sold a sick pup and now stuck with vet bills

[Bianca]

Originally Posted by Arzel36

I got CoCoa B. from a pet store..........And so far, he hasn't had any health issues...........and will I get another one from a pet store.........well. That will be up to my myself and dh.........but if I come across something better I will go for that first.

Oh God! lord, smack me silly and called me dumb
Is there something wrong with you???????????
Not only can't I believe you said that, it's disgusting

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Arzel36

I got CoCoa B. from a pet store..........And so far, he hasn't had any health issues...........and will I get another one from a pet store.........well. That will be up to my myself and dh.........but if I come across something better I will go for that first.

That's a little discouraging, I feel like if we can't even convince long time members of Yorkietalk that buying from a pet store is a bad idea, we will never have much of an effect on the general population. Its not because of health issues we are discouraging people from buying from a pet store, you have just as good a chance of getting as healthy puppy from a pet store as you would a back yard breeder, maybe even better. Do you understand why people don't want you to buy pets from pet stores? Or do you think the puppy mill problem is not that big of a deal? I would really like to understand, maybe we can educate better if we know why people still would do business with pet stores, after hearing so much about puppy mills.

[Arzel36]

Originally Posted by Bianca

Oh God! lord, smack me silly and called me dumb
Is there something wrong with you???????????
Not only can't I believe you said that, it's disgusting

I was speaken about myself here, I only stated what I've done,yes, I purchased CoCoa B. from a pet store, and that is the truth. I'm not saying to others go and purchase a pet from a pet store in any way........I don't know any breeders from Maryland, thats where I'm from, so thats why I said I probably will purchase another pet from a pet store. I'm not saying its right,and yes I'm very aware of puppymills......I've learnt that from being a member on yt. Not by any means trying too cost an uproar on yt, I've was stating what I did.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Arzel36

I was speaken about myself here, I only stated what I've done,yes, I purchased CoCoa B. from a pet store, and that is the truth. I'm not saying to others go and purchase a pet from a pet store in any way........I don't know any breeders from Maryland, thats where I'm from, so thats why I said I probably will purchase another pet from a pet store. I'm not saying its right,and yes I'm very aware of puppymills......I've learnt that from being a member on yt. Not by any means trying too cost an uproar on yt, I've was stating what I did.

I know you are not trying to cause uproar, and you really can be helpful because lots of people are just like you, but don't admit it. There is nothing wrong with buying from a pet store before you know that there is a problem, but you implied you would do it again, and that's what I would like to understand. I didn't know any breeders until I started looking for Joey, did you not know where you look? Do you feel like you still don't know how to find a good affordable breeder close enough to you? Actually, you pay way more at a pet store than you would a private breeder.

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by Arzel36

I was speaken about myself here, I only stated what I've done,yes, I purchased CoCoa B. from a pet store, and that is the truth. I'm not saying to others go and purchase a pet from a pet store in any way........I don't know any breeders from Maryland, thats where I'm from, so thats why I said I probably will purchase another pet from a pet store. I'm not saying its right,and yes I'm very aware of puppymills......I've learnt that from being a member on yt. Not by any means trying too cost an uproar on yt, I've was stating what I did.

I think anyone that knows of puppy mills and then will still go get one from a pet store knowing that maybe it is a puppy mill puppy.. is wrong. I think if you wanted another puppy you would look and find a breeder in your area or around your area that had some , and not take the easy way out and just go to a local pet store. Maybe you dont know of any breeders in your area bc you havent looked..

[livingdustmops]

Did you buy your pup with any research done or was it more spur of the moment? Was cost a factor and how much were you willing to spend? Are you under the impression that if you went to a breeder you would spend more $$$. Have you referred to the YTCA breeder list? How far are you willing to drive? Have you looked at the picture of the puppy mill moms? Have you looked at the prisoners of greed website? Are you still not worried about where your dog came from? How much do you spend on the average for his healthcare? How old is he?

I hope you don't mind answering my questions as it is the only way to help the future of these dogs.

[halandshawnie]

Originally Posted by Arzel36

I was speaken about myself here, I only stated what I've done,yes, I purchased CoCoa B. from a pet store, and that is the truth. I'm not saying to others go and purchase a pet from a pet store in any way........I don't know any breeders from Maryland, thats where I'm from, so thats why I said I probably will purchase another pet from a pet store. I'm not saying its right,and yes I'm very aware of puppymills......I've learnt that from being a member on yt. Not by any means trying too cost an uproar on yt, I've was stating what I did.

copied & pasted from ytca website, incase you wanted the info
MARYLAND
.Dottie Lee's
Dorothy L. Duke
Glen Burnie, MD
21060
(410) 766-1966
dottieleesyorkies@msn.com
P Tiffany
Beverly B. Ferguson
Pasadena, MD
21122-3329
(410) 255-7926
(410) 439-4491
orielly@comcast.com
P A Cherdali
Cheryl and David Lidie
Darnestown, MD
20878-3579
(301) 963-2173
ccherdali@aol.com
P A S Paddington
Laurie Loisel
Laurel, MD
20723-1135
(410) 724-2750
yorkling@aol.com
P A S.Pundt's
Edward and Bonita Pundt
Westminster, MD
21158-2009
(410) 346-6880
pundtsyorkies@yahoo.com
PTiffany
Catherine Sheridan
Pasadena, MD
21122-3329
(410) 255-7926
(410) 439-4491
orielly@comcast.com
P A S RHeiddy's
Heiddy M. Tucker
Dundalk, MD
21222
(410) 285-5691
(410) 285-5692
tiffer2000th@comcast.net
PWolpert's
Fred & Marci Wolpert
Columbia, MD
21046-1731
(301) 596-2714
(301) 596-7392
mwolpert2004@verizon.net
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[Hollee]

I figured that anyone after being on YT for even a little while would be totally against pet stores. Not only because they sell sick puppies and don't care where the puppies go, but because buying from petstores SUPPORTS puppymills. You are actually helping people treat animals cruely when you pay for a puppy thru a pet store.

It's almost common sense to lok for a good breeder after you've read things on YT. It freaks me out that not even YT can change a person's attitude about this...

(this is not directed at the OP)

[Arzel36]

Originally Posted by halandshawnie

copied & pasted from ytca website, incase you wanted the info
MARYLAND
.Dottie Lee's
Dorothy L. Duke
Glen Burnie, MD
21060
(410) 766-1966
dottieleesyorkies@msn.com
P Tiffany
Beverly B. Ferguson
Pasadena, MD
21122-3329
(410) 255-7926
(410) 439-4491
orielly@comcast.com
P A Cherdali
Cheryl and David Lidie
Darnestown, MD
20878-3579
(301) 963-2173
ccherdali@aol.com
P A S Paddington
Laurie Loisel
Laurel, MD
20723-1135
(410) 724-2750
yorkling@aol.com
P A S.Pundt's
Edward and Bonita Pundt
Westminster, MD
21158-2009
(410) 346-6880
pundtsyorkies@yahoo.com
PTiffany
Catherine Sheridan
Pasadena, MD
21122-3329
(410) 255-7926
(410) 439-4491
orielly@comcast.com
P A S RHeiddy's
Heiddy M. Tucker
Dundalk, MD
21222
(410) 285-5691
(410) 285-5692
tiffer2000th@comcast.net
PWolpert's
Fred & Marci Wolpert
Columbia, MD
21046-1731
(301) 596-2714
(301) 596-7392
mwolpert2004@verizon.net
P

Thank you for the info. I will take time to read over this info.

[Arzel36]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I know you are not trying to cause uproar, and you really can be helpful because lots of people are just like you, but don't admit it. There is nothing wrong with buying from a pet store before you know that there is a problem, but you implied you would do it again, and that's what I would like to understand. I didn't know any breeders until I started looking for Joey, did you not know where you look? Do you feel like you still don't know how to find a good affordable breeder close enough to you? Actually, you pay way more at a pet store than you would a private breeder.

I've never looked for a breeder in Maryland, but now another memeber has given info. about breeders in Maryland I will look into it.

[jrsygal37]

I have not read through any of the posts, just the OP's original post. I'm including a link to an article on the California Lemon Laws on puppies. This is where you will want to start, so that you can see what you are entitled to if anything. MOST states have some sort of protection for buyers of sick dogs but not all states. With that said let me say this; Your first mistake was buying from a pet store, but many including myself have bought from places we shouldn't have without knowing any better. I did myself 13 years ago and this is what prompted me to become educated and an advocate to shut down these places. Pet stores do not buy their pups from reputable breeders. First off a reputable breeder would never sell her puppies to a pet store and secondly, in order for a Pet Store to make money they need to get their stock (And this is what their pups are to them. Stock) from cheap places. MOST if not all buy from a Puppy Mill. Puppy Mills are MASS BREEDING FACTORIES in which they can be breeding upward of 1500 dogs or more in factory settings, meaning these dogs live their enitre lives in tiny cages and never see the light of day. The eat, poop and die in that cage never getting out. They receive little if any vet care, not enough food or water, no heat from the cold and no air from the heat. They live in barns or shacks if they are lucky with cage upon cage stacked and the poor guy on the bottom has all the pee and poop land on him or her. They have no contact with people and their pups are taken from then and shipped at the youngest age possible to that pet store. They do not care of the pup is sick, they will not pay the vet bills without a fight and they will not give you your money back without a fight. Some will exchange the sick pup for another, because it is cheaper to just let that pup die then to incurre the vet bills to make it better. They are disposable. There are many sites you can google to learn more about this. I hope your baby gets better. Check out the site I'm including to see if you have any recourse and PLEASE educate yourself about Pet Stores and Puppy Mills. Good Luck. Elaine

California Lemon Laws for Dogs

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Arzel36

I've never looked for a breeder in Maryland, but now another memeber has given info. about breeders in Maryland I will look into it.

That's great, glad to hear it!

[jaac]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

"Knowledge is power." Now, if "Knowledge is power" then "With great power comes great responsibility," It is the "teacher's" job to teach and educate others.

I ...like Brianna ( mommy of 3) had NO IDEA of puppy mills. I watched Tv, was on the internet, went to local pet stores. Does that make me a bad person? I also got Peanut from a local pet store.. if I knew what I knew now I would think twice...
I found out about puppy mills was on YT. Then as soon as I was aware of them I started to see current news on Puppy Mills... It took me knowing to be aware. So if you have that knowledge than use it as power to educate other's that don't know, instead of "beating them down" You'll catch more bees with honey than vinegar!

Maybe redvalaria since you seem to know so much more than other you should go out and be heard and try to TEACH others.

well said

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

megansmomma....i hope you read this girl....your words aren't in vain...we're listening no matter how much you think we're not!!!! we're still reading and eventually it does start to sink in...don't stop preaching girl...and to the OP don't you ever stop telling this story...it will help someone someday stay away from this heartbreaking and bank breaking situation.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Arzel36

I was speaken about myself here, I only stated what I've done,yes, I purchased CoCoa B. from a pet store, and that is the truth. I'm not saying to others go and purchase a pet from a pet store in any way........I don't know any breeders from Maryland, thats where I'm from, so thats why I said I probably will purchase another pet from a pet store. I'm not saying its right,and yes I'm very aware of puppymills......I've learnt that from being a member on yt. Not by any means trying too cost an uproar on yt, I've was stating what I did.

This is very interesting that you say that you do not know any breeders in Maryland because I distinctly remember you saying that your neighbor was a breeder. So I went back and looked and sure enough it's right here http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/my-...-cidney-b.html

What ever happened to Cidney the puppy that you got from your neighbor who is a breeder? You never talk about him anymore. When I was looking for that information I also came across this too
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...-question.html

I am so confused Arzel......what happened to these 2 puppies that you had back in March 09?

So now you can say, that I have the {3) 'C, their names are CoCoa B. ,Candace, and Cidney B. {Everybody please welcome}, Cidney B. Here's my new baby boy at last.

It i very upsetting to me after all of the preaching and posting that I have done that you would even consider purchasing another from a petshop. You said that there was a breeder that was your neighbor