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09-28-2009, 07:54 PM | #1 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri
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| I'm such an idiot! Any helpful advice? I sold a Morkie. A little brown female. I did not give a contract, the lady didn't ask for one and didn't take me up on the offer of a contract. What happened you ask? She took the puppy last Sunday and called today to say that the female she bought is a male. HUH?! It took her a week to figure out the parts? She has a male and she couldn't compare them? I had four in the litter, 2 brown puppies, 2 black puppies. A male and a female of each. I wrote it down when they were born, as they were born. I weighed them at 5 weeks old and I had one brown male and one brown female. Not two brown males. Unfortunately, those are the only two times I wrote down that I had a brown female. I did send her pictures of the puppy and one was of her on her back which would show that she had no penis. Unfortunately, again, I deleted the sent message that contained copies of the picture and managed not to save the pictures on my computer. Sigh. The only proof that I have that I had a brown girl is the 2 entries in my ledger and 9 family members that live here. She took the puppy to her vet today to have it checked for it's gender. Supposedly the vet said it was a boy. I am hoping there was some kind of misunderstanding of the wording of their sentences. I barely have a reputation as a breeder and don't want anyone besmirtching it. Since I did nothing to protect myself, I have agreed to see the puppy she claims to have bought from me. If it is my puppy, I will know it. If it is not my puppy, I will tell her so but I fully expect her to insist it is the puppy she bought from me and want her money back. Since I cannot prove I had a brown girl, I have offered her the other girl from the litter. I fully expect her to refuse the puppy because she wanted a brown female. At that point I will refund her money except a $50 deposit and the male will stay with me. If she does accept the black female, she will be leaving with a contract. I stand behind my puppies 100% so I have never pushed the contracts. I have never had anyone try to do me dirty before. It has never been brought home so hard that the contract protects both of us. If she is trying to do me dirty, I think she found a brown male and wants to convince me that I somehow made a mistake to get her money back. If she is trying to pull a fast one on me, if she takes the black female and ends up having 2 females from me, well it is a hard lesson to learn to protect my reputation. If that is what is going on, she will have destroyed my belief in my fellow humans basic honesty. At 55 years old, I have never had anyone go to such lengths to cheat me. I pray there is some other explaination. Sylvia |
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09-28-2009, 08:01 PM | #2 |
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| Find a computer geek or professional ... they may be able to recover your deleted email to the woman containing the photos. I have no idea what they would charge for that service but it may be worth a try. Good Luck!
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09-28-2009, 08:05 PM | #3 |
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| Bless your heart you sound very concerned and I can imagine how upsetting this all is. I just wanted to tell you I will be praying for you and I sure hope that everything gets worked out, I don't anything else but wanted to just tell you I will be praying for your situation.
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09-28-2009, 08:13 PM | #4 |
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| Thank you for the advice, KJC. I will look into that but I don't hold out much hope. Thank you for the prayers, Starr. We were out of town today when the phone call came in and my son called us about it. I have felt sick to my stomach ever since. I am really praying that there is just some simple mix up. Sylvia |
09-28-2009, 08:16 PM | #5 | |
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09-28-2009, 08:26 PM | #6 | |
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OMG that really sounds fishy. If you know you gave her a female then don't give her another. Give her her money back if you really want her to go away but do not give her another female. This could be a really nice scam how people acquire a lot of females for a mill start up.
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09-28-2009, 08:35 PM | #7 | |
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09-29-2009, 08:59 AM | #8 |
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| Tatoo i tatoo all of my puppies and write it down on the AKC liter registration paper. that way if someone comes back later and says you sold me a puppy with ----& --- wrong with it, I can prove if it's my puppy or not. they change so much from a puppy to an adult it would be hard to prove without some kind of chip or tatoo, the chip is expensive and can be removed, the tatoo is cheap, cheap, cheap, I bought the kit on line for $20.00 I put 1 number in the puppies ear, not a ss # or anything because their ears are so small. You can use this in the future. Good luck with this woman. |
09-29-2009, 09:06 AM | #9 | |
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09-29-2009, 09:10 AM | #10 |
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| go into your email inbox and look for a deleted folder....if you delted the email from you inbox chances are you didn't delete it from your deleted folder. check there first!! otherwise good luck with this person and keep us posted |
09-29-2009, 09:21 AM | #11 |
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| Unfortunately, I have deleted several times since I deleted her email. I also looked in the sent folder and I have deleted in there since I sent the pictures to her. I am in quite a few groups and have had a HUGE backlog of emails. Things I wanted to save to give a closer look at later. And lately I have been digging in them quite a bit. I usually have 6 to 22 or more pages in the trash so I try to empty it on a regular basis. It might be possible for a compter geek to dig it out of the hard drive but I can't afford to pay anyone to do it and the lady didn't pay enough for the puppy to pay someone more to dig the pictures out. Sylvia |
09-29-2009, 09:24 AM | #12 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | How were you able to email pictures if the pictures were not on your computer? I'd be searching for those pictures. If you know you had 2 of each sex...where are the other puppies? Seems fairly easy to prove.
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09-29-2009, 10:52 AM | #13 |
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| This sounds so weird to me, I really don't understand. Didn't the puppies have a vet checkup and first shots before going to the new homes? I just assumed that was what was normally done, and that the vet would note some info about the pups, and you could account for the remaining ones. Obviously there is more involved for a breeder than I know. Just curious.
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09-29-2009, 10:56 AM | #14 | |
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09-29-2009, 04:03 PM | #15 | |
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I had 2 black babies and 2 brown babies from this litter, one of each sex of each color. Proving it would be my word against her word. It is all moot now. The puppy is the female I sold her. Needless to say, I wasn't the idiot I was afraid I was and they will be switching vets. Sylvia | |
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