Originally Posted by kerrylatrece (Post 2800815)

How did you find her (the breeder)? What proof do you have this little girl only had 1 litter? Where do you think the dogs slept at night? How did the other dogs act when you came to the house? What did the lady do to quiet them down? Does this breeder have a website? Was she breeding other breeds?

I replied to a classified add. I went to her home. She and her husband were in the back yard washing dogs. The dogs (maybe 6 or 7) barked of course. They were not unruly and we ignored them. She had one female she pointed out to me that was soon to deliver. She had one 15wk female puppy for sale and Birdie. She told me that she was moving into the city to be closer to her son who had recently moved out and I guess she had empty nest syndrome. The woman lived in a mobile home near a lake. She had kennels under the mobile home and fans under there. She told me that she alternated the dogs, taking some into the house and putting others out. She kept the mothers and pups in the house. Birdie was housebroken so I suppose she was getting some attention.
All the dogs looked clean. She had complete vet records, recently dated wormer sticker on Birdies record. She told me about homeopathic supplements she used with her dogs. She told me she had bred Birdie once, there were no complications. How does one prove that a bitch has only been bred once? How would I know if that was a lie or not? Her tits are not distended, but it is obvious that she has nursed in the past. She said that Birdie had recently been in heat. She was obviously not bred at that time. She has not come into heat again and I have owned her about 3 months. The woman didn't appear to hide anything from me. She allowed me to see her breeding stock and where they live. She sold me a dog, she didn't auction it or abandon it, or have it euthanized. I don't know if she had a website or not. The only breed I saw were standard size Yorkies. So forgive me if I take issue with you characterizing her as unscrupulous. I didn't see any evidence to support that remark.

Originally Posted by kerrylatrece (Post 2799580)

I would love to keep Birdie. If she could stop some of the submissive behaviors she would fit in here a lot better. She loves me. But she is so frantic in her approach. She is quite different than Petey and any dog I have raised. She has some bad habits. I do try to work with her. She is a poo eater. She found where the outside cats go. I took her to the vet because she kept throwing up. I finally figured it out. But I don't know what to do about it. We live in the country and I am not up to training ferral cats. I had to quit letting her sleep with me because she was throwing up poo on my bed when I was asleep.

Originally Posted by hugz4all4 (Post 2800855)

I dont even no what to say. :(... Im so upset for the little girl, where she use to live, the dogs that she use to live with and now only being held onto for breeding. My heart is just breaking.

Originally Posted by kerrylatrece (Post 2800815)

How did you find her (the breeder)? What proof do you have this little girl only had 1 litter? Where do you think the dogs slept at night? How did the other dogs act when you came to the house? What did the lady do to quiet them down? Does this breeder have a website? Was she breeding other breeds?

I replied to a classified add. I went to her home. She and her husband were in the back yard washing dogs. The dogs (maybe 6 or 7) barked of course. They were not unruly and we ignored them. She had one female she pointed out to me that was soon to deliver. She had one 15wk female puppy for sale and Birdie. She told me that she was moving into the city to be closer to her son who had recently moved out and I guess she had empty nest syndrome. The woman lived in a mobile home near a lake. She had kennels under the mobile home and fans under there. She told me that she alternated the dogs, taking some into the house and putting others out. She kept the mothers and pups in the house. Birdie was housebroken so I suppose she was getting some attention.
All the dogs looked clean. She had complete vet records, recently dated wormer sticker on Birdies record. She told me about homeopathic supplements she used with her dogs. She told me she had bred Birdie once, there were no complications. How does one prove that a bitch has only been bred once? How would I know if that was a lie or not? Her tits are not distended, but it is obvious that she has nursed in the past. She said that Birdie had recently been in heat. She was obviously not bred at that time. She has not come into heat again and I have owned her about 3 months. The woman didn't appear to hide anything from me. She allowed me to see her breeding stock and where they live. She sold me a dog, she didn't auction it or abandon it, or have it euthanized. I don't know if she had a website or not. The only breed I saw were standard size Yorkies. So forgive me if I take issue with you characterizing her as unscrupulous. I didn't see any evidence to support that remark.

Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2800884)

You just gave us evidence! I was close to saying that maybe too many were jumping the gun being accusatory to the original breeder before all the facts were known, but instead those who posted along those lines were evidently more perceptive than I was. At least they arrived at their conclusion before I did. You just gave testimony to the Yorkies maltreatment and what is appalling is that you did not even recognize that you had done it. Keeping a toy dog like a Yorkie under a trailer is not adequate. They are not dogs that are meant to be raised outside. They are house dogs that by their very nature need human companionship and nurturing. They can overheat very quickly in the summer heat and freeze easily in the winter extremes. Terms like "breeding stock" make me cringe. Tells a LOT about a person's feelings and attitude toward their dogs. A breeder does not need to depersonalize her Yorkies! A scrupulous breeder would never do that. If a person wants breeding stock, they should switch to livestock not pets!

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2800825)

I DID NOT say this breeder was unscrupulous..I made a post to your point that you think (maybe.. maybe not) once breeders are done with their breeding stock they pet them out. NO they don't.

You prove a bitch has had x amount of litters from her registration papers...did you get any papers on her?

Now having read what you posted about this breeder keeping dogs under her trailer in kennels then this is a person to me that doesn't care about her dogs.:mad: Yorkies should never be treated this way....end of story.:thumbdown

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2800968)

Cindy, I have never seen anything on any registration paper for any adult girl I have ever purchased. can you tell me where to look on the paper? Thanks. i have been given breeding records before tho. Just don't think it is on the registration certificate if that is what you mean. i do agree with your post. As soon as I read what she wrote about how this breeder keeps her dogs, I knew what kind of person this breeder is.

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2800980)

i agree that we all need to stop posting on this thread. it is apparent that the OP has no knowledge at all if she is wanting to breed a blue born boy to this poor little girl and it seems to me that she is unwilling to learn. just adds one more name to the list of of very unethical byb that will be putting sick puppies out to the uneducated public. if she had any feelings at all, both these dogs would be spayed, neutered and loved. Every time the op posts she is showing her true self and just how little she knows .

Originally Posted by FlDebra (Post 2800884)

You just gave us evidence! I was close to saying that maybe too many were jumping the gun being accusatory to the original breeder before all the facts were known, but instead those who posted along those lines were evidently more perceptive than I was. At least they arrived at their conclusion before I did. You just gave testimony to the Yorkies maltreatment and what is appalling is that you did not even recognize that you had done it. Keeping a toy dog like a Yorkie under a trailer is not adequate. They are not dogs that are meant to be raised outside. They are house dogs that by their very nature need human companionship and nurturing. They can overheat very quickly in the summer heat and freeze easily in the winter extremes. Terms like "breeding stock" make me cringe. Tells a LOT about a person's feelings and attitude toward their dogs. A breeder does not need to depersonalize her Yorkies! A scrupulous breeder would never do that. If a person wants breeding stock, they should switch to livestock not pets!

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2800984)

Sorry, that is what I meant ...breeding records. I was after what kind of paperwork she got from this greeder. :mad:

I do think it is important to get to the bottom of this so if the OP wants to sell her puppies here we know the truth.

Originally Posted by manolos mom (Post 2800987)

Dee, I think it all about the $$$. That poor poor girl. I would take her in a minute.

Originally Posted by kerrylatrece (Post 2800815)

How did you find her (the breeder)? What proof do you have this little girl only had 1 litter? Where do you think the dogs slept at night? How did the other dogs act when you came to the house? What did the lady do to quiet them down? Does this breeder have a website? Was she breeding other breeds?

I replied to a classified add. I went to her home. She and her husband were in the back yard washing dogs. The dogs (maybe 6 or 7) barked of course. They were not unruly and we ignored them. She had one female she pointed out to me that was soon to deliver. She had one 15wk female puppy for sale and Birdie. She told me that she was moving into the city to be closer to her son who had recently moved out and I guess she had empty nest syndrome. The woman lived in a mobile home near a lake. She had kennels under the mobile home and fans under there. She told me that she alternated the dogs, taking some into the house and putting others out. She kept the mothers and pups in the house. Birdie was housebroken so I suppose she was getting some attention.
All the dogs looked clean. She had complete vet records, recently dated wormer sticker on Birdies record. She told me about homeopathic supplements she used with her dogs. She told me she had bred Birdie once, there were no complications. How does one prove that a bitch has only been bred once? How would I know if that was a lie or not? Her tits are not distended, but it is obvious that she has nursed in the past. She said that Birdie had recently been in heat. She was obviously not bred at that time. She has not come into heat again and I have owned her about 3 months. The woman didn't appear to hide anything from me. She allowed me to see her breeding stock and where they live. She sold me a dog, she didn't auction it or abandon it, or have it euthanized. I don't know if she had a website or not. The only breed I saw were standard size Yorkies. So forgive me if I take issue with you characterizing her as unscrupulous. I didn't see any evidence to support that remark.