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livingdustmops 11-04-2009 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 2866732)
Very interesting!! I was never one to believe the stories that breeders in the distant past could be so brutal as to drop an otherwise healthy puppy into a bucket of water shortly after birth...just because it was an "off" color.

Which led me to think. In today's world...would a vet actually euthanize a completely healthy puppy...just because a breeder (who wanted to keep an off color pup a secret) instructed him to do so? :eek:
Since a dog is property, yes vets have put down heathly dogs based on the instructions of the owners. I am not saying all of them but I do know of a case (actual it was posted on YT) where soimeone dropped off a dog to a vet to euthanize the animal...the vet took the dog..turned around and gave it to someone else. The original owners found out and sued the vet and the vet had to pay. I also know about dogs that were dropped off at animal control in Tucson to be euthanized (they were getting older, or they did not want to pay for medicine etc) and the vet would call me and sneak them out the back door to rescue...

I am not saying any of these situations were puppies but I guess in my mind a healthy dog is a healthy dog and it goes on all the time.

JeanieK 11-04-2009 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 2866732)
Very interesting!! I was never one to believe the stories that breeders in the distant past could be so brutal as to drop an otherwise healthy puppy into a bucket of water shortly after birth...just because it was an "off" color.

Which led me to think. In today's world...would a vet actually euthanize a completely healthy puppy...just because a breeder (who wanted to keep an off color pup a secret) instructed him to do so? :eek:
I have posted about this practice before and was :flamed::eek: for doing so. No one wanted to believe it. But it was another time, and for show breeders, this was their life, their entire reputation was at stake.

I doubt that anyone practices this today, and certainly no vet would do it.

JeanieK 11-04-2009 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2866882)
Since a dog is property, yes vets have put down heathly dogs based on the instructions of the owners. I am not saying all of them but I do know of a case (actual it was posted on YT) where soimeone dropped off a dog to a vet to euthanize the animal...the vet took the dog..turned around and gave it to someone else. The original owners found out and sued the vet and the vet had to pay. I also know about dogs that were dropped off at animal control in Tucson to be euthanized (they were getting older, or they did not want to pay for medicine etc) and the vet would call me and sneak them out the back door to rescue...

I am not saying any of these situations were puppies but I guess in my mind a healthy dog is a healthy dog and it goes on all the time.
I believe most vets try to get the pet owner to sign them over to the vet. I was at my vets office one day and someone brought in a young 9 month old pitt bull mix.

Our city has banned pitt bulls. The woman said her son bought it, supposedly, not knowing it was a pitt bull mix, but as it grew older it was obvious that it had pitt bull in it.

So she wanted it PTS. the vet convinced her to sign it over to him so he could send it to a pitt bull rescue.

JeanieK 11-04-2009 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PenelopePup (Post 2866506)
Very well said! Were not the Biewers a parti yorkie in Germany? They are imported, so does that make them any better or any different than the parti yorkies here? If the Biewers took the best of thier stock and bred that to the best normal colored yorkie and developed the Biewer, does that not still make them a colored yorkie? I'm confused on this one.
You are so right on that. They are the same dog, yet many people here on YT will accept the Biewer and not the Parti, because the Biewers have a club, "several of them" and have a standard.

The registries in Germany allowed them to start a new breed based on color alone. they AKC does not allow it.

That does not make them a different dog, just a different country with different rules.

PenelopePup 11-04-2009 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kpstoybox (Post 2866732)
Very interesting!! I was never one to believe the stories that breeders in the distant past could be so brutal as to drop an otherwise healthy puppy into a bucket of water shortly after birth...just because it was an "off" color.

Which led me to think. In today's world...would a vet actually euthanize a completely healthy puppy...just because a breeder (who wanted to keep an off color pup a secret) instructed him to do so? :eek:
Yes, the breeders still take miiss marked puppies to be euthanized at the vets.
White boxers and I forget the color of the collies that are put down all the time. My sister (a vet tech), once took three of the white boxer puppies home and raised them from a few days old, two of which unfortunatley died from parvo before they were 8 weeks old, but Joey lived a long, healthy life!

bailie 11-04-2009 08:03 AM
i agree this still goes on, my sonny , i had to fight for him his mum eat his whole foot off and this byb never knew,and he said "if i had seen that no one would have ever got to see him" suppose i cant complain about him because he ended up giving my money back and the pup phew!! sonny is so happy and so loving and enjoys life to the full

JeanieK 11-04-2009 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bailie (Post 2867091)
i agree this still goes on, my sonny , i had to fight for him his mum eat his whole foot off and this byb never knew,and he said "if i had seen that no one would have ever got to see him" suppose i cant complain about him because he ended up giving my money back and the pup phew!! sonny is so happy and so loving and enjoys life to the full
She sold him with his foot gone and didn't even know it? :confused:

JeanieK 11-04-2009 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PenelopePup (Post 2867081)
Yes, the breeders still take miiss marked puppies to be euthanized at the vets.
White boxers and I forget the color of the collies that are put down all the time. My sister (a vet tech), once took three of the white boxer puppies home and raised them from a few days old, two of which unfortunatley died from parvo before they were 8 weeks old, but Joey lived a long, healthy life!
Too bad you weren't around when I was being flamed for even suggesting such a thing.

yorkiegirl2 11-04-2009 09:34 AM
Very sad that anyone would do something so cruel to a healthy pup.

But the rumors were most show breeders who didn't want anyone to know about certain pups that were born.
I heard the favorite methods was to put the pups in a freezer and let them freeze to death.
They would then dispose of the body and never let anyone know.

hugz4all4 11-04-2009 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2 (Post 2867173)
Very sad that anyone would do something so cruel to a healthy pup.

But the rumors were most show breeders who didn't want anyone to know about certain pups that were born.
I heard the favorite methods was to put the pups in a freezer and let them freeze to death.
They would then dispose of the body and never let anyone know.
:eek: really?? :eek: omg :(

JeanieK 11-04-2009 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiegirl2 (Post 2867173)
Very sad that anyone would do something so cruel to a healthy pup.

But the rumors were most show breeders who didn't want anyone to know about certain pups that were born.
I heard the favorite methods was to put the pups in a freezer and let them freeze to death.
They would then dispose of the body and never let anyone know.
This is also a question that I brought up when I was just a green newbie and was "flamed" for even suggesting that anyone would do this. I read it in a book and asked if it was done and was accused of having done it myself, even though at that point I was not a breeder.

It probably is not as cruel as it seems. a mother will push an unhealthy pup away and it will die from hypothermia very rapidly. So to put them in the freezer would just hasten the death.

If you had a puppy born with an open skull and it was screaming in pain, the freezer would actually be a kinder choice than to drive it to a pet ER tio have it PTS.

And NO I have not done this, I have been fortunate enough to never have to euthanize a puppy.

sierrapups 11-04-2009 10:48 AM
Just a question for the Parti breeders. Does anyone know what country the Streamglen kennels is in that the Parti lines came from?

hugz4all4 11-04-2009 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sierrapups (Post 2867260)
Just a question for the Parti breeders. Does anyone know what country the Streamglen kennels is in that the Parti lines came from?

not a breeder but did a quick search and everything that I read said England.

yorkiegirl2 11-04-2009 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sierrapups (Post 2867260)
Just a question for the Parti breeders. Does anyone know what country the Streamglen kennels is in that the Parti lines came from?
England

Breny 11-04-2009 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Chkpups (Post 2789601)
So I bought Parti Yorkies. Now what? I thought this was the coolest thing since traditionals. I was wondering what the yorkie community thinks of these sweet little dogs???? Please give me our honest opinion.:animal-pa
Just wondering if the OP was still around :D and how your new addition is doing?? Bet you never thought you get this many answers :p


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