I'd love to have the recipe. Do you mind PM'ing it to me?
Thank you so much.

Thank you for sharing RachelandSadie, you are 2 kind. Just wondering ... is it wrong to use the same recipe but cook it?

honestly i don't think it would hurt them to cook the hamburger. i wouldn't cook the spinach or the vitamins in with it, or cottage cheese either, but i'm sure cooking the meat would be fine, and the eggs get pretty much cooked up in the rice.

i'd keep researching that though...

there are lots of people on both sides of the raw diet, but what i've read is that dogs are used to eating raw meat from their wild ancestors, i know you've heard that before in a totally negative connotation, i wouldn't let mine eat hairy food either, but i really don't think the raw will hurt a dog, they have different things in their tummies to break it down without getting salmonella or e coli like a human would. but i understand not wanting to feed raw food too, we use little condiment dishes and just pop them in the microwave to take the chill off (not to cook) and i think freezing it might help kill some stuff that is in it, but i'm not sure, but those dishes, you can switch them out and use the dishwasher on em so they don't stay dirty for a week...hope that helps,

there is a recipe sticky in the health and diet section of this thread for more "cooked" food recipes as well

good luck! :D

There is the possibility of ecoli and somonella, but raw is much better than cooking.

Working with my vet, who is also a canine nutritionist; and studying more on the digestive system of yorkies; since their digestive system is their weak point. Per his findings, raw liver is best, then ground sirloin, then extra lean hamburger. The only problem with the liver is that it is very high in colesterol...

No, don't give browned ground beef to your pups. You don't want to give them anything fried. You could substitute boiled chicken (cubed or shredded) for the ground beef, though.

Yup liver helps too!
 

my aunt does the liver in every other batch she makes. so Bailey gets some of that too, but she said something about having too much liver in the diet might be a bad thing. i'd keep researching, and btw, some vets don't agree with this diet, so be prepared for that as well. then again, some are totally all for it, just depends on personal preference!

i think lots of things about having dogs, babies, kids, whatever, all depends on personal preference, (oh and don't forget that research part) ;)

Good luck!

thanks for that one!
 

thanks that's great to know!!! i didn't know for sure! :D

i put the chicken substitued for the beef would be a good switch up, this recipe is a very easy one to switch up a little with every batch if you wanted to, add a little turkey this week, next time some liver, next time venison, it's really not an exact science, just avoid those taboo foods like:

onions
garlic
grapes or raisins
chocolate

there's more to that list somewhere on YT in health and diet.

Natural Balance Ultra has thick stubbly black hairs in it too. I didn't notice it until I wet the food...I'm wondering if it's from Lamb, but they don't have blk hairs.:confused: Black sheep? Lol
If the ingredient doesn't say 'organic' or 'natural/free range', the meat will usu contain hair, feathers, maybe even bones. As long as it doesn't say animal by-products (which would contain anything left over that's not fit for human consumption; like feet, head, ect.), but isn't hair, feathers, bones just that, by-products? **shrug**

Not surprising.
It may not do much good to switch brands though.
I know this opinion is not popular, but "holistic" dog foods are often just a game to target a particular market. For instance, the veggies in holistic food...if they were of good quality, they would go to people. There may be veggies, but if you saw them before they got baked in the kibble, would you want to eat them? Probably not... It sounds like they just throw the animal skin in, but with mass production, it's going to happen.

The only way to get around it is to make it yourself, but most recipes found online are not balanced or too high in fat.

i think it's pretty good for them...?
 

did you see the one i posted? i think it's pretty balanced, you should check it out and see what you think!

We don't do any raw meat at all, so it wouldn't be for us.
Not sure on the supplements..a nutritionist would have to look at it to make sure the cal/phos, etc. is balanced. It looks like you need a multi vitamin though.

Yes, Crystal. You're very knowledgable about nutrition and good, balanced home cooking. I'd love to know how you analyze this recipe. I think some YT'rs are considering making it.

I don't analyze recipes really.
I get them from Ellie's nutritionist. :)
They can use specialized programs and it makes it much easier.
All I do is look for obvious things that I would or would not do. :)

this one was done by a doggie nutritionist, aunt Karrie's mom and at the bottom it lists to give a children's multivitamin 1/3 per day without art. sweetener. i think it seems pretty well balanced myself, we really like it here in our family.

good luck if you do decide you like it~