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Should Hair be an ingredient in Your dogs Food? I have been feeding California Naturals Lamb I was told prior to feeding this food, that this is an american company, all U.S products, nice big clean facility, etc. I researched the ingredients, etc. I felt it was a good choice. Zander had tummy issues a few months ago so I put him on it first to Zander, he likes it, it has 2 main ingredients, so his stools are the size of Peanut M&Ms, sorry. Recently I put Jazzie on it, she did NOT take to it, so I started putting wet meat with it to entice her to eat, it worked but still she is not thrilled about the food. I've been mixing the meat with the dry using my fingers, when I was done I noticed, hair on my fingers, I thought - huh?? Today upon looking CLOSELY at the kibble I SEE hairs STICKING out of the kibble :mad: WHHHHHAAATTTT??? I get on the phone with California Naturals customer service, she tells me that it is impossible to get all the hair off the meat before PROCESSING! wwwhhhhaattt?? I respond -the meat at the grocery store does not come with hair or feathers!! then she tries to tell me that dogs eat hair when they are in the wild feeding! My dog is NOT in the wild!! there should NOT be hair in the food :mad:, whhhhaatttt??? Oooooh my gosh, I am beyooooonnnddd FUMING MADDDD :mad:. She offered me a coupon! Can you saaay - Smaaaack! Am I over reacting, because she seemed soooo calm! Perhaps I am over reacting? :rolleyes: It is not a bad idea for you to moisten your hands and see what comes off your dogs dry kibble. Does your lamb formula have hair? or your venison formula have hair? I don't even know what the heck to feed anymore, I have Zero trust in any of these dog food manufacturers. :( |
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You have every right to be concerned. However, the pet food industry is not regulated as well as ours (ha, ha, ha, we all know how great that has been in the recent past). Have you seen the feathers on a frier chicken. I've been researching foods, because I have a girl that appears to have food allergies. So far Merrick and Halo come out on top. |
That is totally yucky and I dont blame you for being upset. What dogs eat in the wild and what we want them to have in their dog food is two different things. Someone on here found small bone fragments when they looked closely at the kibble. It is very hard to know what food to trust |
That is just plain gross:eek: God only knows what else is in there. Time to research different food and throw that in the garbage where it belongs. I bet your stomach did a flip when seeing that! |
There was a thread just like this a few months ago only the food was Innova Evo. The member posted pics of a peices of kibble with stubbly hairs sticking out of it. Ugh! :eek: |
Thank you, that is what I told the cust.serv. person - What dogs eat in the wild and what we want them to have in their dog food is two different things!! |
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I remembered that and that was the first thing I thought of but couldn't recall the food. YUK! I went home and looked threw Bud's kibble and thank heavens no hair. |
Ugh! :eek: is RIGHT!! I felt sooo bad for what I was making them eat, geeezz, you have no idea how many hours I have sat researching on the computer, comparing ingredients, checking why this ingredient is necessary, etc. then to find I have been feeding my loved yorkies ANIMAL HAIR!! Yes, I am sick to my stomach. I have also recommended this food to others, it is very upsetting to realize it is Not A+ :mad: |
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I would take it back to the store. I would be very upset. |
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very disgusting, that's why my aunt and i do not feed kibble bought from the store, we are both believers in the home made diet. ours is a raw recipe, but it does require a little cooking (the rice and eggs) but the meat will be raw. if you are interested i am more than happy to share, for my aunt's dog, it makes her teeth cleaner, breath fresher and poop once a day about the size of a tootsie roll, so it's just great for her dog, i'm going to try it with mine, i'd rather my pup be eating people grade food, we both have a problem with feeding our pets the rotten grain and stuff that's been rotting on a chop house floor. plus all the scares that went around with dog food giving renal failure is when she switched over. let me know if you'd like the recipe, it's rather simple and for a yorkie they only eat about a large tablespoon twice a day, you can store it in Tupperware in the freezer too, so it's really quite convenient to make a huge batch once a month or so.. just let me know!!! |
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no problem, here is what she's written before: The recipe came from my mom who's hobby is dog nutrition. She's very serious about it!! She has helped others who have dogs with special needs by using this basic recipe and then adding supplements based on their situtation. I usually double the batch: 1/2 lb lean ground beef (80% or leaner) 2 can sardines (or canned salmon of the same weight) 1 cup cooked rice 1/2 c. veg of choice (spinach, carrots, etc.) 2 large eggs (slightly cooked) 3/4 tablespoon bone meal 1/2 teaspoon potassium 1 tablespoon safflower oil = 1569 calories I find the sardines rather smelly - so I substitute 4 oz of cottage cheese or ground turkey (I usually do both!). My hubby hunts, so I sometimes replace the hamburger with deerburger. Do not substitute ground pork. Since I removed the sardines (a very important ingredient), then I squeeze a fish oil caplet every other day over her breakfast. I also add 1/3 childrens multivitamin daily (the ones without artificial sweetener). Feel free to add 1 oz of liver to the batch - its good for them. All human grade products. I get the bone meal and potassium from iherb.com. I first made a batch without all the supplements - just to see if Bailey liked it. SHE LOVED IT - so its been this recipe ever since! I serve one spoonful per serving (the larger spoons) twice a day. It doesnt seem like much - I know. I store it in 10 oz plastic containers about 3/4 full in the freezer- one container lasts about 3 days. Tip: I put the raw eggs in the hot rice and let it sit a while (hence partially cooked eggs) Good luck!!! Let me know if you need anything! |
I'd love to have the recipe. Do you mind PM'ing it to me? Thank you so much. |
Thank you for sharing RachelandSadie, you are 2 kind. Just wondering ... is it wrong to use the same recipe but cook it? |
honestly i don't think it would hurt them to cook the hamburger. i wouldn't cook the spinach or the vitamins in with it, or cottage cheese either, but i'm sure cooking the meat would be fine, and the eggs get pretty much cooked up in the rice. i'd keep researching that though... there are lots of people on both sides of the raw diet, but what i've read is that dogs are used to eating raw meat from their wild ancestors, i know you've heard that before in a totally negative connotation, i wouldn't let mine eat hairy food either, but i really don't think the raw will hurt a dog, they have different things in their tummies to break it down without getting salmonella or e coli like a human would. but i understand not wanting to feed raw food too, we use little condiment dishes and just pop them in the microwave to take the chill off (not to cook) and i think freezing it might help kill some stuff that is in it, but i'm not sure, but those dishes, you can switch them out and use the dishwasher on em so they don't stay dirty for a week...hope that helps, there is a recipe sticky in the health and diet section of this thread for more "cooked" food recipes as well good luck! :D |
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Working with my vet, who is also a canine nutritionist; and studying more on the digestive system of yorkies; since their digestive system is their weak point. Per his findings, raw liver is best, then ground sirloin, then extra lean hamburger. The only problem with the liver is that it is very high in colesterol... |
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i think lots of things about having dogs, babies, kids, whatever, all depends on personal preference, (oh and don't forget that research part) ;) Good luck! |
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i put the chicken substitued for the beef would be a good switch up, this recipe is a very easy one to switch up a little with every batch if you wanted to, add a little turkey this week, next time some liver, next time venison, it's really not an exact science, just avoid those taboo foods like: onions garlic grapes or raisins chocolate there's more to that list somewhere on YT in health and diet. |
Natural Balance Ultra has thick stubbly black hairs in it too. I didn't notice it until I wet the food...I'm wondering if it's from Lamb, but they don't have blk hairs.:confused: Black sheep? Lol If the ingredient doesn't say 'organic' or 'natural/free range', the meat will usu contain hair, feathers, maybe even bones. As long as it doesn't say animal by-products (which would contain anything left over that's not fit for human consumption; like feet, head, ect.), but isn't hair, feathers, bones just that, by-products? **shrug** |
Thanks for letting us know. I'm digging through Kimbo's kibble right now...I better not find any wild fur in it or I'm going to flip out!!:2omg: |
Not surprising. It may not do much good to switch brands though. I know this opinion is not popular, but "holistic" dog foods are often just a game to target a particular market. For instance, the veggies in holistic food...if they were of good quality, they would go to people. There may be veggies, but if you saw them before they got baked in the kibble, would you want to eat them? Probably not... It sounds like they just throw the animal skin in, but with mass production, it's going to happen. The only way to get around it is to make it yourself, but most recipes found online are not balanced or too high in fat. |
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did you see the one i posted? i think it's pretty balanced, you should check it out and see what you think! |
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Not sure on the supplements..a nutritionist would have to look at it to make sure the cal/phos, etc. is balanced. It looks like you need a multi vitamin though. |
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I get them from Ellie's nutritionist. :) They can use specialized programs and it makes it much easier. All I do is look for obvious things that I would or would not do. :) |
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good luck if you do decide you like it~ |
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