Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2650328)

There a handy feature here...called an ignore list. Feel free to place me on yours.

Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2650358)

Deb, you are so funny (I love ya!). I always laugh when I think of how Dee calls the ignore list, "The All-Star List" and how some have made their way onto it. :D I only have one person that I have waivered with adding to mine....but, yes, handy feature. ;)

Tammy

Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2650373)

Oh all stars isn't the term I use for it. LOL

Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2650358)

Deb, you are so funny (I love ya!). I always laugh when I think of how Dee calls the ignore list, "The All-Star List" and how some have made their way onto it. :D I only have one person that I have waivered with adding to mine....but, yes, handy feature. ;)

Tammy

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2650423)

did I ever call it that or iss it another Dee? I am thinking I would call it something not so nice list based on what I think of the people on my list.;). LOL

Originally Posted by nlappegard (Post 2645668)

There is a big difference between a show dog and a tiny little pet. If you would want a show dog you need to go to the experts on show dogs these are high quality dogs that are bred to be show dogs they are bred for temperament quality and competition just think what it takes to be a show dog you travel going show to show on weekends doing the best of your ability to please not only your hander but the judge as well competing with other yorkies that where bred to do the same thing. Your owner and hander she has to have a realionship with the dog for him or her to perform for them this all takes time they have to be groomed just perfect to be shown and when there not being shown there coat has to be well taken care of this is an immense amount of work for both dog and Handler. I know this from exsperiene i was showing dogs for a while these people breed for the standard and to improve the breed for there show dogs. But this is not for everyone to be successful at showing dogs you need a mentor to help you through this. Some show breeders even have people that just breed for them and they choose the dogs they are going to show from these dogs. Being a breeder takes dedication time understanding knowledge it not just throwing 2 dogs together and breeding them it has a lot to do with genetics breeding the two dogs that will match up the best and qualities that will match up with each other. You have to be home all the time to be a breeder and willing to dedicate yourself to your dogs you need to be there by there side when they are having puppies giving them support especially new mothers that have never had puppies before to me when you are breeding dogs as far as size goes if you want to make a quality dog the 2 dogs your breeding need to be correctly matched up according to genetics and size i would never breed a 7-lb dog to a 3 pound dog to get more puppies that will be smaller this would not be correct if you have a 7-lb female she needs to be breeding a 5or 6-lb male to make a nice square dog if you have a 4-lb female she need to breed a 3 or 4 -lb male this i correct to make nice square dogs that are healthy when you breed tiny males to bigger females yes you get some smaller dogs and bigger litters but are those small dogs healthy no they are the runts of the litter the puppies that got the least amount of nutrition inside the mother when you breed according to size and get a healthy litter of 2 or 3 healthy little dogs this is correct to me why make tiny yorkies if there not going to be healthy or square. As for flaws nothing is pefect in life people can have 4 healthy beautiful children then have a unfortunate child that is mongilion or lacking something it is the same with dogs you can get a genetic defect that arrises from 12 generations ago this is just the way it is i don't claim to be a show breeder but i do have tiny healthy puppies and i have been very successful in what i do i love my dogs they are my life and they all love me there not in cages they sleep with me and live with me and i dedicate my time to them completely theres not a day that goes by that everyone is not loved on petted combed and cared for in my house and it took me years of exsperience and knowledge to do this i also had a wondeful mentor who had been breeding dogs for 50 years to help me to me this is the key to all of this breeding pets to be carried around in purses dressed up in dresses and bows and being loved is ok to it just depends on how you do this.thats what important to me

Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2645772)

Your post "shows" me how little you know about breeding, and showing. What do you think the purpose of showing is anyway, to pump up someone's ego? People show to get confirmation from the "experts" whether their dog is a good representative of the breed, and if it is, it's good to breed it - because chances are, it will make wonderful beautiful offspring that will make great pets! Buyers should demand two things when choosing a pet, a dog that is genetically healthy, and one that looks like the breed. I personally think that Yorkie "attitude" that works in the show ring is great for a pet too! I realize the popularity of purse puppies is on the rise, so teacup breeders won't be going out of business anytime soon, but there are still many of use who are bothered by breeders who are pushing for tinier and tinier dogs. You can only breed down so much, without risking the overall health of a species.


The qualities necessary for a show dog are sought after for a pet, or at least should be! Seems like your post is trying to imply that people who want a pet, shouldn't buy from show breeders. I realize that not every good breeder can show, but it should never be implied that show breeder's dogs don't make wonderful pets, and I'm a little tired of people acting like a 6 pound dog is a moose. So my advice is that even if you aren't planning to show or breed and want a pet only, go to an ethical breeder, one who really knows the breed, and the problems associated with it, and is fully aware of the problems associated with tinies! Beware of one-trait breeders! For more information on the differences between responsible breeders and backyard breeders see: Responsible Breeders and Backyard Breeders - What's the difference?

Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie (Post 2646527)

let's say we all agree that breeding tinies is for sure unsafe. (which i am not sure about because like i said, i am still waiting to hear reasons as to why it IS INDEED unsafe.)

so in an ideal world. no one would breed the tiny dogs. if it is indeed unsafe.

BUT

the reality is that there IS a demand for tiny dogs.

and if there is a demand for it, the truth is some one will do it for the profit.

so given that reality. i really prefer people who have experience and knowledge to do it instead of having puppy mills and back yard breeders do it.

Originally Posted by yorkiesjs (Post 2652106)

You are right we will never change the greed for the almighty dollar and this is sad! And the one that will pay the price is the breed itself the Yorkies:(IMO and from 20 years of breeding only Yorkies OHHH I have learned so much ( and will continue to listen and learn) We need to educate the Yorkie buyers.When the buyers STOP the demand this will stop the breeders. I better add IMO ! I do not breed for undersized yorkies or oversized but sometimes it happens and mother nature steps in. But when I have one that is tiny I go to every measure to try and make sure that this baby ends up in the right home . And I try to do this for every puppy I have.And then I still worry all the time that I will get a call or email that something went wrong! But I would hope that all us breeders worry about this ! Enough rambling ( Heck I just worry too much :eek:

Originally Posted by Jemma (Post 2652791)

Wow, I can't believe this thread is still going.

Originally Posted by Jemma (Post 2652791)

Wow, I can't believe this thread is still going.