She is being so mean.....

[mscat]

I only have one dog. So do not have experience with two puppies. However, watch a lot od dog training shows. What I have seen is that behaviors only become worse with age . It is important to take care of these issues now , than try and deal with them when they are older.
I would Feed Ace in a totally separate room. Without Arizona present. The thing is that little Ace may start losing weight, and not be getting enough to eat , because of Arizona's dominate behavior's. IMO, totally separate them when they eat.
I also would not try to give one puppy any more loving then the other. Although Ace is the more mild mannered one, and may need to be "protected" Your little Arizona is just going to become more and more demanding. If Acew is going to sleep in your bed, then giving her own bed in your room, I believe is the right thing to do. Are they pad trained? Can Ace jump off your bed safely? To potty during the night?
Since little Ace loves Arizona that is wonderful. Arizona was very young when she came to your house and I think she did not have time to learn social skills with her litter mates. This is part of the problem. She is a little rowdy, however, I think it can be dealt with. When you have toys for them, have two of the same toys . One for each puppy.
Puppies do play rough together t, but should not be hurting each other .

[rebeccag]

Originally Posted by Martin0327

Actually I just had them both together when i was working with them on the "sit" command and she is not aggressive when it comes to the treats. There is no snapping or being mean. Could it be cause Im right there in front of them. They are pretty great with sit so I need to teach a new one but they know when they sit they get a treat and when i have them in front of me they sit right next to eachother til I give it to them. Arizona is only food aggressive with Ace. I have a 3 year old that will be pretty close while she is eating (my daughter Katie likes to watch sometimes) and Arizona just eats. I can stick my hand anywhere in her face if I wanted to and she doest do anything. i know this because I used to stop her so Ace can eat and she wont react bad at all. Ace is the only one she does this with. Thank for the book suggestion Im loioking into it now.

Just curious now, where did you get Arizona from? How many pups in the litter? I know you got them about the same time but who was there first?

[yorkie mad]

You should defiantly take them on walks together , like Chantal said it will help them bond together and will get their energy levels lower. They will be best friends in no time .

[ChantalB]

Originally Posted by Martin0327

No this is really stupid but I havent really taken them for a walk...I let them olay outside for a little bit but Im not sure how long or far they can walk. They are so little Im afraid to overdo it. I really want to take them on my walks. I walk twice around my block and that is equal to a mile. You think they can handle that?

They will need to get use to it first. Start with short walk... You can use two leashes at the beginning. I like to use the double leash for my own dogs.

Hope it will help.

[Martin0327]

Originally Posted by rebeccag

Just curious now, where did you get Arizona from? How many pups in the litter? I know you got them about the same time but who was there first?

Ace was first and he was 11.5 weeks when we got him....Arizona came 2 days later at 9.5 weeks old. Arizona came from a breeder and I didnt ask great questions. There were only two girls left. I thought that since she was AKC registered that it would be ok to purchase her. (This is before Yorkietalk and before I knew better)

[Martin0327]

Originally Posted by ChantalB

They will need to get use to it first. Start with short walk... You can use two leashes at the beginning. I like to use the double leash for my own dogs.

Hope it will help.

Im sorry really new to this. Sooo Do you think that 1 block or just may be Up and down my street first would be good? They are 5 and 5.5 months old.

[megansmomma]

What I am thinking is that since they both are fine together while doing sit that you should just make them work for their food. Hand feeding might be the way to go then move up to putting a few pieces into each dish until Arizona gets the idea that she need to behave during meal time. I know that it is a pain in the butt to have to sit there and put a few pieces of food into each dish but they do not eat that much I'm also thinking that since there were only 2 puppies left in the litter and she was only 9 1/2 weeks old how soon did this breeder let the other go? Maybe she was under socialized or had to fight for her food as a little baby?

[BellaAmore]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Do you feel that Arizona is food aggressive to you as well? I am also wondering if she came from a breeder or a pet shop? The reason that I ask this is because at 9 1/2 she was pretty young but not horribly young but if she came from a pet shop she was taken from her mom even younger which could cause problems like this. My Pebbles is food aggressive but not to the point that she chases the other 2 out of the room. I put their food down and they eat----end of story.

Hmmmmm? What happens when you give treats? Does she try to take them all from Ace and chase him away then too? If you were to sit on the floor and work on give sit and give paw how does she act? Will she wait her turn? I am thinking this might help but it is only a guess. What I am thinking is if you get some really good treats that you would not normally give cheerios or maybe tiny pieces of cheese. Sit on the floor make she sit give a treat and praise and do the same with Ace. Make them wait for their treats but give lots of praise to both. When Arizona sits and waits for her turn make she you praise her then as well. Make her earn her food.

We got Pebbles when she was about 5 months old and she had horrible habits from lack of training. I was at my wits end with her and I found a book called Let the Dog Decide. The idea is to have control by using a longer leash and harness while training. When they try to run away or whatever it is that you are trying to get them to do you can step on the leash they are dragging behind them. What is does it makes them think they are deciding to not run or for your example attack Ace and his food bowl. When she tries to charge across the room step on the leash so that she cannot get there but do not even look at her. It's early and my brain is not fully away but I hope you get the idea of what I am trying to say. This really worked with Pebbles. She walked around the house for weeks with a leash and harness on. When she would try to run under the bed I would be able to stop her, when she tried to run out the back door ahead of me I would stop her but always treat and praise after. I swear to you this worked! She now will sit at the back door until I tell her that she can go out. Better yet I can open the front door for the pizza guy without her charging out the door. I guess my point in all of this rambling is that this book really worked.

I love your ideas expecially the one about the leash. We have a very aggressive eater in our home his name is Luigi. Anytime I give Bella and Luigi is given a larger treat ( carrots, Dentastix, Bullysticks, etc.) Luigi will take his and run with it then drop it and come back and steal Bellas. I get so mad because she just stands there and lets him take it, then looks at me with a sad face. But when it comes to playing she is the dominate one, she will take control of the situation quickly if he gets aggresive. I don't understand but I am definitely going to try the leash training thing.

[Sunnie]

you have got some great suggestions. I think it would be a good time to look into a behavourist. In the meantime, I would make sure you have TWO crates. and keep them a couple of feet apart when they are sleeping. Close enough to see each other, but not close enough to try to attack. I would also try feeding them each inside thier crates. This way Ace would feel safe to eat and Arizona cannot be agressive. Until this matter is resolved, YOU need to be the one to protect Ace. One attack with you not close enough to intervene can be tragic for one or both of them.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by BellaAmore

I love your ideas expecially the one about the leash. We have a very aggressive eater in our home his name is Luigi. Anytime I give Bella and Luigi is given a larger treat ( carrots, Dentastix, Bullysticks, etc.) Luigi will take his and run with it then drop it and come back and steal Bellas. I get so mad because she just stands there and lets him take it, then looks at me with a sad face. But when it comes to playing she is the dominate one, she will take control of the situation quickly if he gets aggresive. I don't understand but I am definitely going to try the leash training thing.

Here is a like to the book that I was talking about earlier. It really did help Pebbles with a lot of her issues when we first got her. I even went so far as to hire a trainer and the only thing that got me was a wallet with $350 less money inside it. But I have to say that for the $15 this book cost me it was well worth ever penny.

Amazon.com: Let the Dog Decide: The Revolutionary...
When I bought that book I also bought a book on TRICK TRAINING too which was pretty helpful called The one and only dog trick book you will even need. Here is the link for that as well:

Amazon.com: The Only Dog Tricks Book You'll Ever...
*Quick story about Pebbles and what the dog training book helped me teach her that I totally forgot about..........One of the things in the book they talk about is how you need to use repetition with everything that you do. Like I said earlier they need to sit before going out the back door and will only go out of the house through the back door. I took Pebbles to the groomer this morning and wasn't thinking about what I was doing when we parked. She was trying to jump into the back seat of the car when I stopped (I know should have been in her doggie car seat) and I was getting annoyed with her until I remembered...........she is trained to only get out the passenger side door of my car and will sit there and wait for me to open the door to LIFT her out of the car. She get upset if you even try to take her out any other door of the car. So you see this book really worked for me.

[RoxyLuv]

Originally Posted by Martin0327

Im sorry really new to this. Sooo Do you think that 1 block or just may be Up and down my street first would be good? They are 5 and 5.5 months old.

And you sound very tense. I'm sure you are with the confusing behavior of your two. You won't know how far to go until you get them outside & try it. If handling both at the same time is too much at first, take them one at a time for awhile, then take both at the same time. If you are observant, each one of them will let you know when they are too tired, so you will know if you've gone too far. You can gradually add more distance as they get used to the walks. Neither one of them is going to immediately understand what walking on a leash is all about, so be patient with them.

There are a lot of dog training books, magazines, dvds, Dog Whisperer on National Geographic channel & It's Me or The Dog on Animal Planet, free help online including YT. EDUCATE yourself so you can be better able to deal with their challenges. Training your dogs will never end, so get prepared. The more training tricks you learn the better prepared & more relaxed you will be while working with them. No one method or book has all the answers. What works for one of your dogs may not work with the other so you need lots of ideas to pull from. Even though each source will differ a little on command words/signals, make your own list & definitions for each to help keep you from confusing the dogs. Try not to teach too much at once.

It's very important that you be relaxed & patient. You can make it fun for all 3 of you. Good luck & enjoy!

[Martin0327]

Originally Posted by Sunnie

you have got some great suggestions. I think it would be a good time to look into a behavourist. In the meantime, I would make sure you have TWO crates. and keep them a couple of feet apart when they are sleeping. Close enough to see each other, but not close enough to try to attack. I would also try feeding them each inside thier crates. This way Ace would feel safe to eat and Arizona cannot be agressive. Until this matter is resolved, YOU need to be the one to protect Ace. One attack with you not close enough to intervene can be tragic for one or both of them.

OK so a detail that I failed to mention in all this was that they have and can be in the crate without fighting (I am going to get another cage but I didnt mention this in the original post). For example, right now they are asleep in the crate. Naps druing the day seem to be fine, they play together well (although I still feel Arizona is a little too aggressive at times) but when it comes to bedtime for the night she starts fighting til I gt him out (which is shortly cause its right next to my bed). So basically bedtime and Food agressive with Ace only.

I wasnt sure if it was ok to feed Arizona (or any dog for that matter in her crate.) I just was under the impression that it was too sleep only.

I really appreciate eveyones suggestions. I hope that I can get Arizona to calm down a little. She seems to train a little faster then Ace so maybe I can train her to be less aggressive.

[lgoodall]

You need to get the book or video written by "The Dog Whisperer" by Caesar Milan. He deals with dogs trying to establish their dominance over other dogs, and over the entire family sometimes. He has great suggestions. Your little Arizona thinks she's the leader of the pack. You need to show her that you are. His ideas should help. Tucker's mom

[ChantalB]

Originally Posted by Martin0327

Im sorry really new to this. Sooo Do you think that 1 block or just may be Up and down my street first would be good? They are 5 and 5.5 months old.

I would try to put the leashes on them and walk them in the house or in the backyard before the first real walk. So they can get use to their harness. You can take them for 10-15 minutes walk the first time. You'll see how they do.
Keep the leashes short.

[ChantalB]

Originally Posted by lgoodall

You need to get the book or video written by "The Dog Whisperer" by Caesar Milan. He deals with dogs trying to establish their dominance over other dogs, and over the entire family sometimes. He has great suggestions. Your little Arizona thinks she's the leader of the pack. You need to show her that you are. His ideas should help. Tucker's mom

I love the Dog Whisperer.