Yorkie Yay...Poo Nay

Maybe I am old school. But it is just a cute name for a mutt. If you are going to breed than breed to better the breed stick with either Poodle or Yorkie... don't breed to make fancy mutts...JMO

Yes, this is very true! I'm constantly looking and it seems whenever I inquire, there is always a waiting list of more than 3 people! I'd love to adopt a bigger, "uglier" dog to give them a home but it's just not possible for me right now still living at home with a stepdad allergic to dogs! Our cocker spaniel/poodle and my Yorkie are OK for him though. So if it were to be another dog, I'd prefer a poodle mix and it has to be smaller as I travel a lot w/ Jackson.

I'm not trying to mean but you said you have experience in breeding but in this thread you said it was your first litter. Is that the only experience you have?
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ling-pups.html

Then, you say you won't worry about the pups going to shelters but you had a hard time selling your Yorkie pups just 2 months ago! :confused:

I'm sorry but you are what some would call a "backyard breeder". Do you have any information on the dogs you are breeding? Would they be passing on any diseases to their pups? Have you read any of the stories on here about the problems that can arise during labor and afterwards?

I'm not sure how old you are but these dogs can live a long time and even if you wouldn't be the one to send them to a shelter --- it could happen. What if something happened to you? Who would take all of these dogs then?

I think you love your dogs but I really think you're breeding for fun. Please don't do that. If you really want to get into breeding please do it the right way. You can find out anything you need to know right here on YT. Please read, ask questions and seek out an established, reputable breeder close to you.

Very well-said!!!

I have no problem with mixed breeds, but I wouldn't breed your dogs unless you are really passionate about it. If you had posted that you are dying to breed these dogs but are wondering about x,y,z, that would be one thing. But since you seem iffy about it, I'd vote for you to hold off, and maybe adopt another dog. :)

You know I get so sick of prissy people on here acting like they are so much better and judging people they don't know. Yes, i wanted advice. And when I say "advice" I don't mean snotty comments that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. I didn't ask whether or not I should adopt another one from a shelter and I didn't ask for anyone to go over my posting with a fine tooth comb and question everything I previously said. The litter of pups I had before were purebred yorkies.. and yes, I thougt they were going to be really difficult to sell, and they kinda were, but I sold my last one at 4 months. Around here, people would rather have mixed breeds. And there is nothing wrong with that. However, I plainly stated that these pups would be for me.. Not to sell. And I'm not a back yard breeder!!! I would like to know, do people think experienced breeders just magically acquire the gift with never having any litters of puppies? You have to start somewhere. When I bred my yorkies, I DID do it to pass along their good genes. They were beautiful dogs. I would rather like to be considered a hobby breeder if anything. My dogs were very, very well taken care of. I didn't produce mass quantities of puppies that didn't find homes. They didn't live in crates and crap on them selves and each other. They were born in my bedroom and my hands were the first thing they felt coming into this world. When it comes to breeding and whelping, i could guarantee that I put more time and love into it than some "experienced breeders". Like I said before, I understand peoples philosophy of adopting a shelter dog, and I would LOVE to be able to adopt them all. But, I know where my dogs have been and their temperaments.. I can potty train them from the beginning and hopefully with them being born in my care, they will have great socialization skills. Adopting a dog from a shelter is always a good thing but there are many things you have to factor in ,in doing so... You don't know what kind of lives they have had, they typically have anxiety and social issues and sometimes completely fear humans. Sometimes with a little TLC they can overcome those things, but sometimes they don't and then you can't even enjoy your pet. And no, I didn't purchase this dog for breeding at all. I got her because she is hands down the sweetest dog I've ever come across. It was just a thought. So , that being said, thanks for all the advice.. (and criticism)... I will keep in mind everything you all have said, and thanks for the input.

And FYI , When my yorkie was pregnant, I was in contact with several reputable breeders on YT.. I kept in contact with them throughout her whole pregnancy and after the pups were born. As a matter of fact, it seems like every time I post on here, my breeder friends are always sending me IM's telling me not to worry about snotty comments I get on here.. They tell me that there are a million ppl on here that get ran off the site because of it.. Not me, though. And PS, anyone who thinks anyone breeds for fun should try it themselves and see how much fun it actually is. If you consider worrying yourself sick and staying up all night for 2 months making sure pups are ok is fun , then good for you. Or if you think weekly trips to the vet to have tails done and dew claws done and shots done and worming done fun, then good for you as well. Breeding can be very rewarding, but I would definately not say it's fun until after the first few months when you know all of your pups are happy and healthy. Oh, and watching your girl whelping a litter, not knowing if she will even make it through or not isn't fun either. It has its ups and downs, and isn't for everyone.. But through all the time, money and worry, I woudln't take back the experiences for anything. Luckily for me, with the exception of losing a pup once, I have had great experiences and all my babies and momma were completely healthy..... and if you don't believe how fun it is , I can send you some pictures from about 5 minutes after all the pups were born.. Let me tell you , its a lovely sight ...;)

Being a backyard breeder has nothing to do with whether or not your puppies were born in your bedroom:

"Every breed of dog recognized by the AKC has a written standard, a blueprint
of what the dog should look like and act like. These standards were written
so that all would know what a quality example of the breed is and strive to
produce dogs that meet or exceed the standard in health, temperament and
appearance. To be sure you are breeding dogs that meet these standards,
your dogs must be judged by people who have a lifetime of experience among the
breed. Do you know the standard of the Pure Breed Dog? Does your dog
meet this standard according to an AKC Judge? If not, your dog is pet
quality. A pet is to be loved, cherished, trained, cared for, spoiled and
bragged about, but it is NEVER to be bred. No matter how cute or sweet the
dog may be, if it is not up to the standard, you have no business breeding
it.

If you have a purebred dog this does not give you the right to breed it.

Most purebred dogs are not breeding quality. If you breed your pet quality
dog, you are a backyard breeder, whether you breed the dog in your
backyard, garage, living room or an expensive hotel room, the term is still backyard
breeder.

If your pet quality dog has AKC papers, that's nice but it doesn't change
anything. You still don't have the right to breed it.

If your pet quality dog cost you $500 be glad you had the money to afford
it. You still have no right to breed it.

Do you think you can make your $500 back if you breed your pet dog or if
your pet dog is a color or size that isn't in the standard but you just know
everyone will want buy a pup if you breed her? Shame on you! Now you are a backyard
breeder with the purpose of breeding pups for bucks.

If the price for a tail dock or an ear crop seem high to you, what are you
going to do when your beloved pet needs an emergency C section. Will you
even be there with her to know if she is in trouble? Would you recognize
trouble before it's too late?

And if you still want to breed your pet dog but need to ask who's supposed
to cut off the tails and ears, ask yourself "What the Hell am I thinking!"

Do you think genetic testing is something they used in the OJ trial but has
nothing to do with your dog breeding career? You are a backyard breeder.

Backyard breeders sell pups that aren't up to the standard of the breed."


ShelterDog Rescue - Are you a BackYard Breeder?

I have a serious question and this is not an argument for either side. Who sets the standard? Does the breed have to be bred by the AKC or can it be the UKC? Or even some other kennel club?

Well Put!
 

:thumbup:I completely agree!!! :thumbup: I have a 5 month old Yorkie Poo:aimeeyork, and honestly, I can't imagine my life without him and I don't remember my life before him!:luvu: He is affectionate, super smart, almost completly house broken and he is graduating from his puppy class in 2 weeks with flying colors. When shopping around for a new pooch, it amazed me how "true" dog/furbaby lovers talk so much crap amount mixed breed dogs as if they were a lower class, they deserve just as much love as any purebred and to be honest , it also amazes me how so many "dog lovers" will convince you not to get a "mutt", but I would think that if everybody decided to only buy purebred dogs, that it would certainly keep the shelters well populated...don't you think? You seem like a responsible person, if you want to raise a pack....feel free, every animal needs love, not just the ones with "pure genes" and everyone else that is so concerned about rescue pups, why don't you go adopt one?

Every purebred dog has a club dedicated to the benefit and preservation of the breed. They are the ones who set the breed standard. With Yorkies, the club is the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America:

Yorkshire Terrier Club of America

The AKC is the most recognized and respected registry. They got tougher about the requirements to register a few years ago and many breeders no longer qualified and/or were suspended. A lot of alternative registries were formed after that so these breeders could still say their puppies had papers.

I respect the work of the AKC and support DNA testing and mandatory kennel inspections. I personally would not consider purchasing a puppy from one of the alternative registries.

So what about the Biewers that I just learned about. Who are they recognized by and who sets their breed standards?

The Biewer Terrier Club of America:

Biewer Terrier Club of America, Inc.

So it looks like a guy in Germany had 2 Yorkies that both had the piebald gene... they bred those and had puppies who did not meet the breed standard. He then continued to breed these puppies - who did not meet the breed standard. Shouldn't that have been wrong? But now it makes it okay because he gave them their own breed name and started a club? I'm so confused.

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