Some people desire to own a particular type of mix breed. I like all dogs, but I prefer toy breeds. I especially like small dogs with fluffy hair. My shelter usually has Dachshunds, Chihuahua, Golden Retrieves, German Shepherd, Cockers, and Labs. Many people say why buy a poodle mix breed when you can adopt them from the animal shelter. I agree with that comment. I think before buying a poodle mix breed you should check the animal shelter first. However, in my area poodle mixes are very desirable. The poodle mixes are instantly adopted once they are available for adoption. I tried very hard to adopt a poodle mix breed at my animal shelter. I visited the animal shelter a lot where the people recognized me when I came to visit the animal shelter. They even took my name and number, so they could call me if a poodle mix came into the shelter. I even searched the animal shelter's database for adoptable dogs. When I found a poodle mix on the website, I visited the shelter, and the dog was already adopted. I got tired of feeling as if I was competing with everybody else to adopt a poodle mix dog. I decided that if I wanted a poodle mix breed that I would have to buy the dog from a breeder. Everybody experience at an animal shelter are different, because different breeds are popular in different areas. Some places there is a market for poodle mix dogs. At the time, I wanted a poodle mix dog, because I did not want to spend $1000+ on a dog. In my area, the poodle mix prices got outrageous, so I decided to adopt a purebred dog and that when I adopted Josh. I think before breeding mutts, a breeder should check to see if they are desirable in their area to ensure all the puppies get homes. Breeders should check to see if breeding two different breeds make a good mix. I am also proud of breeders who strive to breed dogs that meet the breed's standard. If I decided to breed, I would breed according to the breed's standard.

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Let's see, you have cussed folks here for their opinions in January, February, and now April. (I may have missed some.) I don't think people are being snotty and it all does have to do with the subject at hand. You asked for opinions. I sort of feel like you were setting us all up so you could lash out. There is a word for when people post a question they really have no interest in getting input, but instead are waiting for someone to comment, so they can pounce and spew their own preplanned agenda. It's called trolling. But I don't know if that is what you are doing or you just had your mind already made up and were hoping everyone would agree with you or what. Either way.... not looking good.

On the off chance that you really are interested, my "opinion" is -- don't breed her or him. You have another thread going about the crackling sound in your male yorkie's hind leg! And another thread about not having papers on your dogs (parents of this male)because getting papers when you bought them cost more and now you don't even remember who you got them from!?!?. Another thread where you say the male was a rescue. But there was the thread in December where you said the puppies were "...CKC registered, and just pet quality" -- not sure how that happened if the adults were not registered, and I think you are saying they were not registered in this confusing thread. Oh and then there was the post where you wondered: "Two of my yorkie pups have white on the tips of their left hind toes. I'm worred now that my rat a poo got to her while she was in heat. " If that was even a possibility......well I'm sure you know where that thought is going.

If you are wanting to breed just to keep them for yourself, why would you not have kept more from the last litter you sold what a little over a month ago? And where are the parents from that litter? I saw that you got the female when she was a year and a half old and is she now resold again? Because, I noticed you said you "had" a 7 pound yorkie that gave birth to the litter that this little guy is from. And I guess you sold the male from reading here: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...sgusted-3.html for $175, and later in that thread it says you got him as a rescue! Bought or rescued? And that he sired a litter of pups at the new home already! Don't rescues require dogs to be neutered? Are you just acquiring dogs to breed and then resell? Non-registered dogs that you are now looking for ways to get papers on? Did you get rid of those two because their pups were hard to sell? Do any of the dogs you are talking about have actual registration papers with AKC or even one of the other registries? Just asking not accusing.....

Another point: You now say you are an experienced breeder but just 2/19/2009 you posted "Ok glad you all think they're cute. This is my first litter and I have been franctic on this site ever since my girl was pregnant. I am not an "experienced" breeder and other than a few little things like the ears I missed,.... " One litter does not make you experienced -- believe me! We do have to start somewhere but we are novices for several years at least! You also said back in February " I am guilty of breeding.. I bred my female once, which I have pups now from, but she was two, and I'm having her fixed.. I just did it once, never again.. ...I have learned my lesson....." I guess you just meant you weren't going to breed her again, but would start with another dog, another breed? And did you spay her?

There are too many red flags here!! Please do not tell me this is all off topic either, because when you ask if you should breed dogs, EVERYTHING else you have been doing with animals comes into play. All of the animals: 4 cats, a rat-a-poo, two yorkies, a litter of 5 puppies -- one kept, and now a poodle, that is what I know of from a handful of posts I read, may be more, IDK. It all shows what type of breeder you are and that is a huge factor in whether or not you should breed any two dogs -- not just the poodle and yorkie you are talking about. You can't try to make this an issue of whether mixed breed dogs are as good as pure-bred. That is not what this is about. You can't act like you are breeding to standard when you aren't aware of your dogs origins! So, please just don't do it.

If you do, I guess we'll find your posts on a Poodle or Yorkie Poo forum a few months from now saying you are once again having a hard time selling your puppies. And new folks who haven't heard all the history will say, "Ah, it's the economy. You have beautiful pups." and you can start this whole thing all over again.

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And cj125 had a good point...why start a thread and ask questions and get mad at honest answers? :rolleyes:

If all your information is true, then I agree that the breeder should wait later to start a breeding program. I do not follow her threads, so I do not know about how the OP obtained her dogs or dog illnesses. I think the OP felt like people were criticizing her and not expressing their opinions. We have to remember that forums are about opinions. We do not have to take them, and not everybody's opinions are right. I just hope the best for the dogs and the OP. :D

You had to know what kind of reaction you would get on here(YT)! Breeding designer dogs & charging a small fortune for them is a crying shame when they are nothing but mutts. No one has said these"mutts" are not worth loving & many people have rescued mixed breeds. I just don't see the reason for putting your female through the dangers of being pregnant because they would have cute puppies, if you have a farm & alot of room for many pets why don't you just try & rescue a yorkiepoo? Although I will admit it is easier to adopt a child than a dog from a rescue but always worth the effort:D

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My brother has 2 Yorkie-poos. They are half brothers and my brother and sister in law knew the breeders very well. Spent alot of time there and still talk to them and get the boys together with their mom. Anyway the older one is pure white and has the softest curliest coat. He's really a sweet heart. He ended being around 10 lbs., the parents weren't anywhere near this big so that was a surprise and the other one is black and tan and curly and he's about 8 lbs. Both very good sweet dogs and they also have an adorable rescue. They all 3 are known as the boyz!

I reread your post. It sounds like you are thinking about breeding these two just to see what the puppies look like. I'm not a breeder, but this doesn't sound like a valid reason to breed. Look in any classified and you will see Yorkiepoo ads, most have pictures. You try on hats to see what it looks like. Since you asked this is my opinion.

Just read through her past posts. Everything I wrote was true. When a forum gets this big, sometimes it is easy to not put all the pieces together when someone asks for opinions here and there. But when someone asks about breeding, I am going to click on "Find other posts from this member" and see what they have been doing with their Yorkies or other pets before I comment. Whether a person should mix breeds always gets two sides going. But even putting that issue aside, there are plenty of red flags why this person should not be breeding these dogs. I have no idea where the original mother and father to the litter she reported here on YT came from either. She said she bought them but paid less without papers, she said she doesn't remember who she bought them from, then in another post she says one of them is a rescue.

She may have felt like people were criticizing her, but I think it is a matter of people being critical of her practices which obviously are not those of a professional dog breeder.

I do have an opinion, you're right, but most of what I wrote was putting the information she has posted together in one place so people can see a little more of what is and is not going on here. I too wish the best for her dogs, all of them, wherever they may be now and all of her cats too.

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To answer the question in the original post: NAY. I am not a supporter of purposely breeding mutts...question answered, short and simple, enough said.

You bring up a very interesting point. Issue is, people AREN'T doing that. How many people have you ever run across that are combining breeds who are actually doing that? (Aside from the "Labradoodle" breeders in Australia.) There are no combined coordinated efforts of those who boast and proudly flaunt their purposely bred mutts...no breeding for a purpose or big picture or for any reason other than the present 'this is what I want to do/sell now.'

cj125--You brought some very good points to the surface. :thumbup: I always find it funny that when people have their own words relayed back to them, they don't always like it and often get defensive when the truth is out there for everyone.

As far as the 'everyone has to start somewhere' defense. That line of flimsy reasoning is getting really old, really fast. YES everyone has to start somewhere and no one has EVER stated otherwise. Some choose to start by diving in themselves and trying to pick up on things as they go, learning from their mistakes which they will surely make and with really no clue what they are doing. Others choose to be responsible instead and take the time to research FIRST, learn under a mentor, learn how to avoid the mistakes that others have already made and then approach breeding with a wealth of knoweldge they have already gained. So YES, everyone starts somewhere...it's just up to everyone where they start.

True, my Mandy was 4.2 lbs but the vet said her body was great for breeding. She had two litters. My Chelsey is over 5 lbs but at 1 year old the vet said she was built to small internally to breed. It really depends on the dogs build.

Kayla had 4 puppies and she was less than 5 lbs at 4.6.

I think it is up to each person to breed or not as long as they are responsible for the litter.

This is why Debbi on here only mixes hers. She had purebred yorkies and still as 2 that she couldn't sell, now she does the morkies and she even has some shorkies, as they sell really fast

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Thank You Debra - you said what I would have liked to but mine come off too harsh. I'm glad that you went back through her posts, as well. :thumbup: :thumbup: It gives everyone a full picture of what's going on here.

Actually if you do a search, this is the "true" meaning of a backyard breeder

A backyard breeder is someone who keeps a number of dogs and either breeds them deliberately or just lets them breed. Backyard breeders may have a few dogs or many, one breed or several. They usually have no understanding of or concern about the breed standard, genetics, socializing the dogs, and maintaining their health. Don't confuse them with "hobby breeders," who breed small numbers of dogs and care for their dogs well.
I really don't think this pertains to the OP

You can go to btcainc.org and read all about the biewers. ;)