What is the difference between a Parti Yorkie and a Biewer - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

kpstoybox · 12-17-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl

In the December issue of TNT(which I have a copy of), they are referred too as a biewer terrier. It says although the biewer is a direct cousin to the yorkshire terriers, the Biewer terrier is established as a breed of its own.

If I am correct...that article you mention was written by the BTCA president, so of course they are referred to as Biewer Terrier's in that article.

scrapindee · 12-17-2008, 07:54 PM

The Biewer is a toy breed dog, a companion dog. The Biewer has an excellent temperment, a tail, and a tale of three of Rare Breed Venues.

Once you meet a Biewer, you can't go back...

SandysDaddy · 12-17-2008, 08:22 PM

DQ is in showing.

If a parti-yorkie is bred from two AKC registered blue/gold, blue/tan, etc. yorkshire terriers- then, yes, it can be registered with the AKC. The dog will not be able to participate in confirmation, however.

Though, most AKC breeders breed to standard- and, since they know genetics, will rarely; if ever; get a parti.

Nancy1999 · 12-17-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SandysDaddy

DQ is in showing.

If a parti-yorkie is bred from two AKC registered blue/gold, blue/tan, etc. yorkshire terriers- then, yes, it can be registered with the AKC. The dog will not be able to participate in confirmation, however.

Though, most AKC breeders breed to standard- and, since they know genetics, will rarely; if ever; get a parti.

I'm confused, does this mean that if a parti is bred to another parti it can't be registered?

SandysDaddy · 12-17-2008, 08:35 PM

Hmm... well, the AKC is pretty confusing with their standards and their rules.

But, I imagine if both parti's have AKC papers then the puppies could be AKC registered. I've never known anyone to breed partis together, though. So, I could be wrong.

Nancy1999 · 12-17-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SandysDaddy

Hmm... well, the AKC is pretty confusing with their standards and their rules.

But, I imagine if both parti's have AKC papers then the puppies could be AKC registered. I've never known anyone to breed partis together, though. So, I could be wrong.

There are a few members that do it, but I've never been able to understand the answers they give, I think I understand, until the next thread roles around.

pagonzal · 12-17-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LilYorkieMomma

Thanks Nancy. This breeder just told me she paid $6,000 for her Parti yorkies and she thought $4,500 was cheap. I thought Biewers were supposed to be more expensive than Parti yorkies.

I thought so too.

Pam

pagonzal · 12-17-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by my2boyz

One more thing I just thought of but didn't put in my earlier post is that the Biewer is a pretty laid back dog...not so terrier like. Mine aren't barkers, they are very friendly to everyone, not withdrawn or shy like some Yorkies can be. I love the laid back personality of my Biewers...so different than any of the Yorkies I've every owned.

As for the price, well, I think the prices are all over the board for Biewers and Parti's but I have found the Parti's to be more. Maybe because they are AKC? My Biewers are dual registered...in Germany and the U.S...but I'm in no hurry to get the Biewer into the AKC.

Mine is certainly very sweet but is a barker! She is the loudest of the bunch. Of course, she is the smallest too.

Pam

bchgirl · 12-17-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LilYorkieMomma

Thanks Nancy. This breeder just told me she paid $6,000 for her Parti yorkies and she thought $4,500 was cheap. I thought Biewers were supposed to be more expensive than Parti yorkies.

Biewer pricing has decreased quite a bit the last year. If she paid $6000 for a breeding pair...then it's a bit less than a breeding pair of biewers.

Pet pricing is a lot less than 4,500.

bchgirl · 12-17-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scrapindee

The Biewer is a toy breed dog, a companion dog. The Biewer has an excellent temperment, a tail, and a tale of three of Rare Breed Venues.

Once you meet a Biewer, you can't go back...

You mean a tale of three breed clubs?

You can not only go back...you have to have MORE.

LilYorkieMomma · 12-17-2008, 10:06 PM

Thank you everyone for all of your input. I have been reading much more on the internet and trying to find out as much as possible. My DH and I find it very interesting.

How do you pronounce Biewer? Is is like Beaver or Beavair or something completely different.

Also, what is the coat texture like on a Biewer and a parti? Does a Biewer have a silky yorkie like coat or is it more soft? Is a Parti coat silky?

Thanks

bchgirl · 12-17-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LilYorkieMomma

Thank you everyone for all of your input. I have been reading much more on the internet and trying to find out as much as possible. My DH and I find it very interesting.

How do you pronounce Biewer? Is is like Beaver or Beavair or something completely different.

Also, what is the coat texture like on a Biewer and a parti? Does a Biewer have a silky yorkie like coat or is it more soft? Is a Parti coat silky?

Thanks

That pronunciation.

Biewer standard calls for silk coats, but you see a lot of soft coats. Reggie's coat is very very soft and his coat is much thicker than my yorkies.

No clue on the parti coat. I would assume the preference would be silk.

bchgirl · 12-17-2008, 10:12 PM

Are you in DC?

LilYorkieMomma · 12-17-2008, 10:21 PM

Thanks for the pronunciation. My DH and I were trying to figure it out and laughed everytime we tried to pronounce it different ways. LOL

I live in Washington State. Know any Biewer breeders near me?

Pruett · 12-17-2008, 10:57 PM

We call the dog a Biewer Terrier because Biewer is the name of the man that created the breed and Terrier is the type of dog it is. We have proven that the Biewer is a breed of its own and not a Yorkshire Terrier.

A magazine as prestigious as Top Notch Toys certainly validates its articles before publishing them, wouldn't you think?

The Parti breeders say they have Yorkshire Terriers with a recessive piebald gene and so does the bbci. Now if the bbci says they have a Yorkshire Terrier with a mutant piebald gene, then what is their foundation for the breed being a separate breed?

They say they are holding true to the long term goals of the originator of this wonderful breed, then why did they change the name? Why did they add black to the standard. There's 2 contradictions right there.

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12-17-2008, 08:22 PM	#18
SandysDaddy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spring Lake, NC Posts: 64	DQ is in showing. If a parti-yorkie is bred from two AKC registered blue/gold, blue/tan, etc. yorkshire terriers- then, yes, it can be registered with the AKC. The dog will not be able to participate in confirmation, however. Though, most AKC breeders breed to standard- and, since they know genetics, will rarely; if ever; get a parti.

12-17-2008, 08:35 PM	#20
SandysDaddy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spring Lake, NC Posts: 64	Hmm... well, the AKC is pretty confusing with their standards and their rules. But, I imagine if both parti's have AKC papers then the puppies could be AKC registered. I've never known anyone to breed partis together, though. So, I could be wrong.

12-17-2008, 10:06 PM	#26
LilYorkieMomma Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 38	Thank you everyone for all of your input. I have been reading much more on the internet and trying to find out as much as possible. My DH and I find it very interesting. How do you pronounce Biewer? Is is like Beaver or Beavair or something completely different. Also, what is the coat texture like on a Biewer and a parti? Does a Biewer have a silky yorkie like coat or is it more soft? Is a Parti coat silky? Thanks

12-17-2008, 10:21 PM	#29
LilYorkieMomma Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 38	Thanks for the pronunciation. My DH and I were trying to figure it out and laughed everytime we tried to pronounce it different ways. LOL I live in Washington State. Know any Biewer breeders near me?

12-17-2008, 10:57 PM	#30
Pruett BANNED! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 209	We call the dog a Biewer Terrier because Biewer is the name of the man that created the breed and Terrier is the type of dog it is. We have proven that the Biewer is a breed of its own and not a Yorkshire Terrier. A magazine as prestigious as Top Notch Toys certainly validates its articles before publishing them, wouldn't you think? The Parti breeders say they have Yorkshire Terriers with a recessive piebald gene and so does the bbci. Now if the bbci says they have a Yorkshire Terrier with a mutant piebald gene, then what is their foundation for the breed being a separate breed? They say they are holding true to the long term goals of the originator of this wonderful breed, then why did they change the name? Why did they add black to the standard. There's 2 contradictions right there.