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Old 11-24-2008, 08:26 AM   #31
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FYI...There are a profusion of words and phrases used for dogs that are not purebred. The words cur, tyke, mutt and mongrel are used, but are either derogatory, or have derogatory meanings according the the Oxford English Dictionary.

That may be why some are sensitive.


There are a profusion of words and phrases used for dogs that are not purebred. The words cur, tyke, mutt and mongrel are used, but are either derogatory, or have derogatory meanings according the the Oxford English Dictionary. Despite this, in the United Kingdom mongrel is the unique technical word for a mixed-breed dog, and is often not used as a term of disparagement. North American owners generally prefer mix or mixed-breed. Mutt is also used (in the U.S.A and Canada), and can be used in an affectionate manner.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:31 AM   #32
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No I just consider it being respectful of others feelings, if is hurts someone I would try no to say it. Not tell them to suck it up and deal with it.

I don't get this place at all sometimes and people wonder why so many don't post here.

The fact that people just can respect others is such a joke..I don't even want to be bothered anymore.

Is there a way to unjoin? If anyone know's how please PM me or if you are a mod just remove my membership.
This is just ridiculous now.
If less people responded to those things that offended them, soon noone would be able to come in and upset this community because their one post would get no responses and get lost in the mix.

If the word 'mutt' is offensive to you, don't respond to it. If others follow suit then its safe to say that it won't be used anymore or it won't bother you or anyone else anymore. Its not a matter of EVERYONE being PC... its a matter of picking your battles. An online forum is a nice place to go and escape the 'real world' around you, but not a place to get so worked up about an issue that someone you don't know personally posted about, just ignore it and enjoy the rest of the site, members, pics and posts!

Mixed breed, mutt, purebred, yorkie, nonyorkie, everyone is welcome to post here! All questions/comments/information and fun posts are appreciated, welcomed and loved by a majority of the members!

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I don't consider mutt offensive either but I have seen it used here in a way that can make it seem that way.
In fact most people I know find "mutts" to be the best dogs.

I guess what I am trying to say is this is a site that is supposed to be user friendly to everyone, why keep using a term that you know may hurt someone else's feelings or make them not want to come here.

Is it really that much to ask, because I don't understand why people keep pushing this button for some.
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I guess this is just where we have a difference of opinion on the subject. Why should people refrain from using a word just because other choose to take offense to it? Should all words that others find offense to stop being used as well, or should that just be the case in THIS instance? I think the more rational option would be for people who find themselves being repeatedly offended should lighten up and chaulk it up to being 'part of' a public forum full of people with differing opinions and views rather than expecting people to change their ways and cater to them.

And for the record, the best dog I have EVER owned was a mutt named Rocky Noodle and I can't even begin to make an educated guess as to what he actually was...other than small, black and furry.

I will say this AGIAN.. I dont mind the word MUTT.. Ive owned several. I do however mind how sometimes it is used. I have seen it used on here by several people purposley to be offensive and to stir up trouble.
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I just want to say, I love YT and SO many people here have helped me and my dogs AND I think I have done the same. I found YT when I adopted Ella Bean, as she was super sick and I needed help! I knew she was part Yorkie and thats why I started posting. I have made wonderful friends.

I ignore people who try and instigate fights and there does seem to be major controversy over mixed breeds, but I say, IGNORE it. Too many good people on here.

Don't let anyone ruin your time here. Everyone is welcome and I feel strongly that keeping a positive attitude, no matter WHO says WHAT...or what words they use...is the strongest way to express our disdain for those who are argumentative. As for the word 'mutt' just reclaim it and use it in affection and ignore those who use it negatively. While it may be 'correct' it DOES hurt some people's feelings and I hope they will ignore the posters who seem to enjoy hurting their feelings!
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If less people responded to those things that offended them, soon noone would be able to come in and upset this community because their one post would get no responses and get lost in the mix.

If the word 'mutt' is offensive to you, don't respond to it. If others follow suit then its safe to say that it won't be used anymore or it won't bother you or anyone else anymore. Its not a matter of EVERYONE being PC... its a matter of picking your battles. An online forum is a nice place to go and escape the 'real world' around you, but not a place to get so worked up about an issue that someone you don't know personally posted about, just ignore it and enjoy the rest of the site, members, pics and posts!

Mixed breed, mutt, purebred, yorkie, nonyorkie, everyone is welcome to post here! All questions/comments/information and fun posts are appreciated, welcomed and loved by a majority of the members!

Please don't feel the need to leave!!
I agree with you 100 percent..however sometimes its unavoidable.. Example.. when some one with a mixed breed will post something about thier dogs, such as "how big will my morkie get".. a simple question right? Well the OP will get responses like.. "its not a yorkie its a mutt so you dont how big it will be"
or "why do people continue to buy mixes" etc, etc and it turns into a debate making the OP defending themselves as to why the got the dog in the first place, making them feel very unwelcome, Ive seen it over and over again, in just the few short 2 months Ive been here.
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I call my purebred dogs Mongrels or Hooligans all the time--that is how they act...except, of Course, Darcy, who is perfect all the time!
I call mine Hooligans also
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I think an important thing to keep in mind is that almost all purebred dog breeds are the result of "designer" crossbreeds...who knows when the Morkie (or other equivalent crossbreed) will be bred into existence long enough to warrant a pedigree?

Yorkshire Terrier = Welsh Terrier + Skye Terrier + Clydesdale Terrier + Paisley Terrier + Who knows what else

Golden Retriever = Tweed Water Spaniel + Irish Setter + Wavy-Coated Retriever

Miniature Schnauzer = Standard Schnauzer + Affenpinscher + Poodle



You get the picture. So the moral of the story is:

They're all "designer dogs"...

great post.. thank youv
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I agree with you 100 percent..however sometimes its unavoidable.. Example.. when some one with a mixed breed will post something about thier dogs, such as "how big will my morkie get".. a simple question right? Well the OP will get responses like.. "its not a yorkie its a mutt so you dont how big it will be"
or "why do people continue to buy mixes" etc, etc and it turns into a debate making the OP defending themselves as to why the got the dog in the first place, making them feel very unwelcome, Ive seen it over and over again, in just the few short 2 months Ive been here.
Agreed.

I, for one, think crossbreeds are adorable, interesting, and a time-tested method of coming up with "new breeds"...

People continue to buy mixes because crossbreeds are always the first step to a new breed. Sure, the first generations of that cross are going to be unpredictable in size/coat/etc...but that's because they're first and second generation experiments. I'm sure the first yorkie "crossbreed" ancestors looked *nothing* like the Yorkshire Terrier of today's standard.

Dogs are mixed because people like the combination of qualities that crossbreeds afford. It's not always just to make money. And there are plenty of people who breed purebred dogs for profit as well.

So since all dogs are essentially "mutts" and "mongrels", there's no reason to get up on a high horse about breed standards. Today's Shorkie is tomorrow's "Baltimore Terrier"....or whatever.
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I agree with you 100 percent..however sometimes its unavoidable.. Example.. when some one with a mixed breed will post something about thier dogs, such as "how big will my morkie get".. a simple question right? Well the OP will get responses like.. "its not a yorkie its a mutt so you dont how big it will be"
or "why do people continue to buy mixes" etc, etc and it turns into a debate making the OP defending themselves as to why the got the dog in the first place, making them feel very unwelcome, Ive seen it over and over again, in just the few short 2 months Ive been here.
My Ella Bean is a mix, so I have also seen this behavior a lot. I rescued her adore her and I credit YT posters for helping me when I rescued her and she was so sick.

When people stick their nose into my posts and provoke me to defend my dog instead of answering the thread, I ignore it. I am not saying I don't WANT to respond (with a swift kick!) but its not worth it. The other advice and people are too awesome to let those jerks ruin it.

When those debates arise in mid - thread, I suggest politely re-asking your question and ask to return to the subject!
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So since all dogs are essentially "mutts" and "mongrels", there's no reason to get up on a high horse about breed standards. Today's Shorkie is tomorrow's "Baltimore Terrier"....or whatever.
LOL. Then the "Baltimore Terrier" forum will have jerks who won't be nice to the "Baltimore Terrier" mixes!!

It just shows that the instigators of these arguments are wasting their time and energy making people feel bad for no reason. Ignore 'em.
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I think an important thing to keep in mind is that almost all purebred dog breeds are the result of "designer" crossbreeds...who knows when the Morkie (or other equivalent crossbreed) will be bred into existence long enough to warrant a pedigree?

Yorkshire Terrier = Welsh Terrier + Skye Terrier + Clydesdale Terrier + Paisley Terrier + Who knows what else

Golden Retriever = Tweed Water Spaniel + Irish Setter + Wavy-Coated Retriever

Miniature Schnauzer = Standard Schnauzer + Affenpinscher + Poodle



You get the picture. So the moral of the story is:

They're all "designer dogs"...
The yorkie also had maltese in it..It is a proven fact, the only purebred dog that was never mixed with anything to get their "purebred" is a maltese
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I call all mine MUTTS!! Muffys name tag says Muffy MUTT. The only one that doesnt like it is my lab. He hates to be called a Mutt. LOL It is funny cause you can ask him if he is a mutt and he will start sneezing and shaking his head.

I feel that if you come to a place like this everyone is going to have an opinion. If you dont like there opinion then skip that one and go on to the next one. If you ask for an opinion I dont see how you can get so upset. As for asking how much a dog is going to weigh think of it like this, your parents didnt know how big you were going to be so how is someone that has never seen your dog going to tell you how much your dog will weigh. Dogs grow differently everyone knows that just look at YT There are dogs from 2 pounds to 20 pounds and they are all the same breed.

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I also found the other thread suggesting segregating Yorkies & mixes offensive and hurtful. Yet after searching that OP's previous posts and finding that she owns a Maltese and a Rotweiler, and NO Yorkies, and she was expecting to get flamed, I decided not to go there. I wasn't surprised to see the thread closed this morning. Another flame out mixed breed thread in August, made me avoid posting for 2 months. But I kept reading, and am better at spotting the hot buttons and avoiding them.

My Yorkie and Morkie are best buddies, and I can hardly mention one without the other. It is absurd to think that I'd have to only talk about Tiki in a Yorkie section, and Meika in another section. Imaging how hard the moderators would have to work to keep them all segregated.

But to all the rest of you who have taught me practically everything I know about Yorkies and Morkies, I say THANK YOU. It has been so fun coming here and seeing pictures and hearing stories. And to the YT Angels that have been helping me with Tiki's health issues, thanks just isn't nearly enough to say.

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Mutt is just a description of a dog . All dogs come from mixing something together , so no big deal. I have a "mutt" and a "pure" Yorkie , I love them both and don't value one over the other.

Just try and not to read to much into a post. More often than not intent doesn't come across in a post. Such as the example someone gave..."How big will my Morkie get?" If someone post and says, "no one knows because its a mutt." They may be sitting behind their computer with absolutely no ill will toward your dog or the word mutt , but when you read it you see " It's a mutt , lesser than my dog , and your not worthy to be here." So try not to take most things in a bad way.

The post that are obviously mean , that's another story
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